Re: Xem mo^. JF Kennedy

[Sonnet Nguyen <Sonnet.Nguyen@fuw.edu.pl>]

Xin lo^~i vi` to^i dda~ nha?y va`o no'i leo ....

On Sun, 3 Aug 1997, AnHai Doan wrote:

> O^ng cho^`ng thu+' hai cu?a ba` qua? phu. JFK la` mo^.t nha` ty? phu'
> ng` Hy La.p, o^ng na`y ngoe?o la^u ro^`i nhu+ng cho^n dda^u thi` to^i
> chi.u. 

Tay ti? phu' na`y (dda~ tu+`ng la`m  nhie^`u vu. buo^n la^.u: vu~ khi',
ta`u bie^?n, da^`u lu+?a, matu'y (?)) Onassis Aristole (1906-1975),
hi`nh nhu+ ddu+o+.c cho^n ta.i Greece.  Co' kha' nhie^`u TV Serials
and books about widow Jackie Kennedy & Onassis.  

> Co`n chuye^.n Kennedy co' ma'u ba la(m thi` co`n pha?i no'i.
> To^i ddo.c o+? dda^u ddo' la` co' la^`n ca'c nha^n vie^n trong nha`
> Tra('ng ddang ddi la.i khe'p ne'p thi` bo^~ng tha^'y cu+?a thang ma'y
> ba^.t mo+?, mo^.t co^ nghe`o qua^`n a'o lao vo.t ra, vu+`a cha.y
> vu+`a cu+o+`i re' le^n.  Mo.i ng` co`n chu+a he^'t su+?ng so^'t thi`
> la.i tha^'y JFK tu+` trong thang ma'y cha.y ra, cu+o+`i ho^ ho^'
> dduo^?i theo em kia. De^ dde^'n the^' la` cu`ng... :-)

Nhu+~ng ma^?u tin ddo^`n kie^?u nhu+ va^.y thi` nhie^`u vo^ ke^?.
So^'ng tu+. nhie^n pho'ng dda~ng the^' mo+'i dda'ng khen.  Co`n
ho+n la` "nga^`m nga^`m ma` xi` ra kho'i". 

> Nghe ba?o JFK co`n co' la(`ng nha(`ng gi` vo+'i em Marilyn Monroe. Co'
> thuye^'t cho ra(`ng trong vu. xem nhu+ tu+. tu+? cu?a MM co' ba`n tay cu?a
> anh em nha` JFK.

Romance JFK with Marilyn Monroe co' the^? xem documental film of BBC.
Co' nhie^`u ti`nh tie^'t gay ca^'n ...
 
> My~ co`n FD Roosevelt, mo^.t to^?ng tho^'ng cu~ng ra^'t no^?i
> tie^'ng. FDR lu'c co`n so^'ng bi. ba.i lie^.t, pha?i ddi la.i ba(`ng
> xe dda^?y. 

Ho^`i Roosevelt chu+a co' TV, ne^n pha^`n lo+'n da^n MY~ kho^ng hi`nh dung
ddu+o+.c la` o^ng ta bi lie^.t.
Tho+`i nay ai bi. lie^.t nhu+ va^.y, ddu+o+.c quay le^n TV, has no chance!
Nhie^`u chi. em chi? bo? phie^'u cho anh na`o dde.p trai tho^i ...
Gia` nhu Dole cu~ng ne^n ve^` hu+u tho^i ....

> JFK kho^ng pha?i la` mo^.t to^?ng tho^'ng co' ta`i cu?a nu+o+'c My~
> theo nghi~a la` trong 3 na(m la`m to^?ng tho^'ng o^ng ta kho^ng la`m
> ddu+o+.c gi` dda'ng ke^? ve^` ca? ddo^'i no^.i la^~n ddo^'i ngoa.i.
> Ve^` ddo^'i ngoa.i thi` vu+`a le^n dda~ la`m vu. Bay of Pigs tha^'t
> ba.i tha?m ha.i, JFK cu~ng go'p pha^`n dda^?y sa^u nu+o+'c My~ ho+n
> nu+~a va`o cuo^.c chie^'n o+? VN. 

Ne^'u no'i ve^` vu. vi.nh con heo (Bay of Pigs) [tha^'t ba.i lo+'n cu?a 
CIA ho+n la` cu?a Kennedy] thi` cu~ng ne^n nha('c dde^'n vu. tha('ng lo+'n
cu?a Kennedy trong "va'n co+`" [ la`m cho Soviet Union tha^'t ba.i nhu.c
nha~, pha?i ru't toa`n bo^. te^n lu+?a (dda^`u dda.n ha.t nha^n) kho?i
CUBA ] quye^'t ddi.nh vo+'i Chrustchopt, na(m 1962.  
Pha?i nha('c dde^'n vu. tie^'p va^.n ha`ng kho^ng cho West Berlin na(m
1961 (?), khi Soviet Union bao va^y West Berlin.  Da^y la` tha('ng lo+.i
cu?a US.   No'i la` Kennedy dda^?y US va`o sa^u cuo^.c chie^'n ta.i VN
cu~ng la` sai la^`m.  Kennedy cu~ng nhu+ other US presidents chi.u su+'c
e'p cu?a ra^'t nhie^`u phi'a.  Mo^.t su+'c e'p lo+'n tu+` ca'c to^? ho+.p
(Enterprises, Big Companies) qua^n su+. [ho.. co' la~i ne^'u co' nhie^`u
ddo+n dda(.t ha`ng cu?a US goverments], su+'c e'p nu+~a le^n Kennedy
la` tu+` Hoover (FBI) va` CIA [ ho. co' qua' nhie^`u tho^ng tin ve^`
unmoralities cu?a JFK ].   Tho+`i 1960-1963, ta.i VN la` tho+`i ky`
ye^n ti~nh nha^'t trong giai ddoa.n 1960-1975.  

> Ve^` ddo^'i no^.i thi` JFK kho^ng
> pha?i la` ngu+o+`i sympathetic va` la`m ddu+o+.c gi` cho phong tra`o
> ddo`i civil rights cho ng` da ma`u, mo^.t trong n~ va^'n dde^`
> no'ng bo?ng nha^'t cu?a n'c My~ lu'c ba^'y gio+`. Kinh te^' My~ 
> du+o+'i tho+`i JFK cu~ng kho^ng co' n~ pha't trie^?n dda'ng ke^?.

No'i la` JFK kho^ng la`m gi` cho Civil Right Movements cu~ng la.i kho^ng
ddu'ng.   [ Gio+? la.i archivium ma` xem ]  Tuy nhie^n qua? la` JFK
co' the^? la`m ddu+o+.c nhie^`u ho+n nhie^`u cho Colored People, ma`
JFK kho^ng la`m.

> Tuy nhie^n, JFK va` gia ddi`nh ddu+o+.c da^n My~ ra^'t to^n su`ng
> vi` nhie^`u ly' do. Mo^.t trong n~ ly' do chi'nh la` vi` JFK va` gia 
> ddi`nh la` bie^?u tu+o+.ng cho mo^.t n'c My~ ddang o+? tho+`i hoa`ng 
> kim. DDa^`u n~ na(m 1960 n'c My~ ddang o+? giai ddoa.n cu+.c thi.nh 
> ve^` kinh te^' va` quye^`n uy chi'nh tri. tre^n the^' gio+'i. Da^n 
> My~ ddang a(n cho+i phe` pho+~n chu+a pha?i ddo^'i dda^`u vo+'i 
> cuo^.c chie^'n VN, civil unrest, oil crisis, watergate,... nhu+ va`o 
> cuo^'i n~ na(m 60 va` dda^` n~ nam 70. Trong bo^'i ca?nh xa~ ho^.i 
> ddo' mo^.t to^?ng tho^'ng tre?, dde.p trai, co' ta`i a(n no'i, 
> xua^'t tha^n tu+` mo^.t gia ddi`nh gia`u co' thuo^.c ta^`ng lo+'p 
> thu+o+.ng lu+u, co' vo+. dde.p, qu'y pha'i nhu+ng gia?n di., la` 
> bie^?u tu+o+.ng cho mo^.t n'c My~ gia`u co' no ddu? va` la` inspriration
> model cho da^n My~. 

Pha?i nha('c the^m nu+~a la` Kennedy la` 1 president ra^'t tre? 
(so vo+'i other US presidents tru+o+'c o^ng ta) va` kho^ng pha?i
Anglo-protestant.  JFK la` first Catholic US president - do`ng ho. na`y
go^'c tu+` Irland (strong catholic country!).  [Catholic in US la` thie^?u
so^', khoa?ng 50 millions, and president - ngu+o+`i thie^?u so^'!]
Va`i na(m nu+~a President - Gay (lesbian), cu~ng pha?i cha^'p nha^.n 
tho^i !!!


> Ly' do kha'c la` vi` JFK la` mo^.t tay ra^'t charismatic, co' ta`i
> die^~n thuye^'t va` ki'ch ddo^.ng lo`ng ngu+o+`i. Ngoa`i mo^.t so^'
> ca^u no'i no^?i tie^'ng cu?a JFK ma` nhie^`u ng` bie^'t, tay na`y
> co`n dde^` ra n~ chu+o+ng tri`nh mang ti'nh inspirational va`
> visionary, cha(?ng ha.n chu+o+ng tri`nh ddu+a ng` My~ le^n ma(.t tra(ng
> tru+o+'c na(m 1970. Co' the^? no'i JFK la` mo^.t leader who leads 
> with style. Ma` o+? ca'i xu+' che^'t tie^.t na`y thi` la`m gi` co' 
> style, tha^.m chi' gie^'t ng` co' style,  cu~ng ddu+o+.c nhie^`u ng` 
> ha^m mo^. 

Co' ai trong VN-se leaders co' own style?

> Tu+` tho+`i n~ na(m 60 tro+? la.i dda^y, My~ chi? co' hai to^?ng tho^'ng
> thuo^.c da.ng charismatic, die^~n thuye^'t hay, bie^'t ki'ch ddo^.ng 
> lo`ng ng`, ddu+a ra ca'c chu+o+ng tri`nh ta^`m vo'c lo+'n, 
> inspirational va` visionary. DDo' la` JFK va` Ronald Reagan. Ca? hai 
> dde^`u ra^'t popular.

Reagan ma('c be^.nh dda~ng tri' (may be alzeheimer), thu+o+`ng kho^ng
bie^'t mi`nh ddang no'i gi`.  Thu+o+`ng chi? bie^'t ddo.c nhu+~ng gi` ke?
kha'c ddu+a cho o^ng ta.  Ronald Reagan, very popular, kho^ng nhu+~ng in
US ma` ca? in Europe.  DDe^/ tro+? tha`nh Star kho^ng pha?i la` kho'.
la`m va`i vu. ta^`y ddi`nh la` cu~ng tha`nh Star tho^i.
Tuy va^.y  Reagan has completely different style of Kennedy.


> Ta^'t nhie^n ta^'n tha?m ki.ch va` su+. bi' a^?n  quanh ca'i che^'t 
> cu?a JFK cu~ng go'p pha^`n lo+'n trong vie^.c ta.o ne^n mo^.t 
> martyr va` legend.

It is absolutely true.   DDo^`ng y' ca? 2 tay 2 cha^n.

SN