Re: VC vs. Ngu.y

[Tran Minh Tien <tran@idefix.mpipks-dresden.mpg.de>]

Hi,

> 
> Ho^m nay tui xin phe'p ca'c ba'c trong la`ng cu~ng nhu+ ca'c ba'c trong
> admin. cho tui ddu+o+.c no'i to+'i mo^.t ca'i dde^` ta`i, co' the^? go.i
> la` taboo, ddo' la` hai danh tu+` <VC> va` <Ngu.y> \.

To^i kho^ng nghi~ la` va^'n dde^` ca^'m ky. tre^n VNSA, vi` no' kho^ng
thuo^.c pha.m tru` chi'nh tri. ma` thuo^.c pha.m tru` ngo^n ngu+~ , va(n
ho'a (tuy co' di'nh dde^'n chi'nh tri., nhu+ng o+? ddo+`i na`y co' ca'i 
gi` kho^ng di'nh dde^'n vie^.c chi'nh, ke^? ca? la`m ti`nh ? Kho^?ng tu+? 
cha? no'i, "chi'nh gia? chi'nh da~" la` gi`).

> 
> Vie^.t co^.ng (VC) theo ddi.nh nghi~a ddo+n thua^`n la` ngu+o+`i Vie^.t
> theo ly' tu+o+?ng co^.ng sa?n \.

To^i cu~ng nghi~ va^.y\. Vie^.t Co^.ng kho^ng ha`m y' xa^'u hay mie^.t thi.\.
To^i cha? co' ma(.c ca?m gi` ne^'u ai ddo' go.i to^i la` tha(`ng Vie^.t
Co^.ng  ne^'u qua? to^i la` ngu+o+`i co^.ng sa?n. To^i cu~ng cha? hie^?u 
ta.i sao ngu+o+`i ta la.i di. u+'ng vo+'i tu+` "co^.ng sa?n", "vie^.t 
co^.ng" etc..  To^i ddoa'n mo` ra(`ng ngu+o+`i di. u+'ng vo+'i nhu+~ng tu+`
na`y la.i chi'nh la` ngu+o+`i trong tha^m ta^m nghi~ "co^.ng sa?n",
"vie^.t co^.ng" la` thu+' vo+'i ha`m y' xa^'u\. To^i hay nghi~ ve^` 1
loa`i ky` nho^ng tre^n dda', khe'o ngu.y trang che ma(.t, nhu+ng
lie^.u co' da^'u ddu+o+.c su+. thu+.c cu?a lo`ng mi`nh. 


> 
> Co' the^? ca'c ba'c bu+.c mi`nh vi` bi. go.i la` <tha(`ng> ?  The^' nhu+ng
> dda^y co' the^? la` su+. kha'c bie^.t va(n ho'a giu+~a hai mie^`n sau
> nhie^`u na(m chia ca('t \.  Tru+o+'c dda^y, tre^n die^~n dda`n na`y, tui
> dda~ tu+`ng tha^'y ngu+o+`i ta go.i ngu+o+`i kha'c la` <tha(`ng cha> na`y
> <tha(`ng cha> no., ro^`i <bo.n> no. <lu~> kia ma` kho^ng tha^'y ai pha?n
> ddo^'i, thi` hie^?u nga^`m la` ca'i va(n ho'a ngoa`i a^'y co' the^? cha^'p
> nha^.n nhu+~ng ca'ch go.i a^'y \.


DDu'ng la` trong tie^'ng Vie^.t, "tha(`ng" co' y' kho^ng ddu+o+.c to^n
tro.ng\. DDa^y la` ca'i phu+'c ta.p cu?a ngo^n ngu+~. Tie^'ng Vie^.t
ra^'t kho' ti`m ddu+o+.c dda.i tu+` nha^n xu+ng ngo^i thu+' 3 kho^ng
pha^n bie^.t tha'i ddo^. nhu+ "he", "she" etc. DDie^`u na`y co' nghi~a
trong tie^'ng Vie^.t khi du`ng ngo^i thu+' 3 dda~ ha`m y' to? tha'i
ddo^. ro^`i\. Tuy nhie^n nga`y nay "tha(`ng" kho^ng co`n mang
1 dda(.c thu` ro~ ne't ve^` tha'i ddo^., ma` ddo' chi? la` tho'i
quen. Ai muo^'n go.i to^i la` "tha(`ng" cu~ng OK.


> 
> Ba^y gio+` ta ba`n dde^'n chu+~ <Ngu.y> \.  Chu+~ <ngu.y> kho^ng bie^'t
> tu+. ddie^?n ddi.nh nghi~a ra sao, nhu+ng tui cu~ng lo+` mo+` hie^?u
> ddu+o+.c ra(`ng no' nghi~a la` kho^ng chi'nh danh, kho^ng to^'t, gia? bo^.,
> la'o, bu` nhi`n ... cha(?ng ha.n nhu+ trong <ngu.y qua^n tu+?> la` gia?
> bo^. qua^n tu+?, qua^n tu+? la'o \.  DDu+o+ng nhie^n chu+~ <ngu.y> na`y
> kho^ng pha?i la` nu+o+'c Ngu.y cu?a o^ng Ta`o Tha'o tho+`i Tam quo^'c ro^`i
> !
> 
> Chu+~ ngu.y o+? tre^n mo+'i co' y' nghi~a mie^.t thi. la`m sao \.  Va^.y
> ma` no' va^~n ddu+o+.c du`ng ro^.ng ra~i trong ca'c va(n kie^.n chi'nh
> thu+'c cu~ng nhu+ ca'c ba`i ba'o dda(ng trong nu+o+'c \.  Ca'i su+. chia
> re~ Ba('c Nam no' vo^'n dda~ co', nhu+ng ddu+o+.c hie^?n hie^.n o+? cho^?
> na`y \.  Bo+?i vi` cho dde^'n lu'c na`y ngu+o+`i ta va^~n nha^.n la^'y
> mi`nh la` chi'nh danh, co`n ngu+o+`i kha'c va^~n co`n la` <ngu.y> \.
> 


Thu+.c ra "ngu.y" la` 1 pha^`n cu?a ca(.p pha.m tru` "cha^n-ngu.y".
Kho^ng co' "ngu.y" thi` kho^ng co' "cha^n" va` ngu+o+.c la.i\. Nhu+
va^.y, "ngu.y" cu~ng kho^ng ha(?n co' y' mie^.t thi.\. Nhu+ng vi`
khuynh hu+o+'ng cu?a nha^n va(n la` tie^'n to+'i "cha^n, thie^.n, my~" 
(hay i't ra ta hie^?u hay ta tu+o+?ng nhu+ va^.y),
tha`nh ra "ngu.y, a'c, xu'" co' nghi~a negative, ddi ddu+o+.c la.i
chie^`u tie^'n trie^?n cu?a nha^n va(n. Do ddo' ca'i y' khinh bi?,
mie^.t thi. o+? chi'nh dda^y\.
Tuy nhie^n, ai bi. go.i la` "ngu.y" thi` ca'i ddo' thuo^.c ve^`
khe^' u+o+'c va(n ho'a cu?a da^n to^.c\. Kho^ng the^? bi`nh lua^.n
ddu+o+.c ve^` va(n ho'a cu?a da^n to^.c ne^'u nhu+ ta chu+a
xa'c ddi.nh ddu+o+.c ne^`n ta?ng na`o ta se~ su+? du.ng dde^?
bi`nh. Va` ca'i chi'nh ho+n ca? la` kho^ng the^? ddi ngu+o+.c la.i
va(n ho'a cu?a ca? da^n to^.c\.

Cheers,

Tran Minh Tien