Re: VC vs. Ngu.y

[Nguyen Xuan Long <xuanlong@postech.ac.kr>]

ba'c Frank wrote:
> Thu+a ca'c ba'c,
> 
> Ho^m nay tui xin phe'p ca'c ba'c trong la`ng cu~ng nhu+ ca'c ba'c trong
> admin. cho tui ddu+o+.c no'i to+'i mo^.t ca'i dde^` ta`i, co' the^? go.i
> la` taboo, ddo' la` hai danh tu+` <VC> va` <Ngu.y> \.
> 
> Tru+o+'c tie^n ca'c ba'c cho tui ho?i:  Ai tre^n VNSA na`y va^~n tu+. ha`o
> mi`nh la` ngu+o+`i co^.ng sa?n ?  Ca'c ba'c co' the^? gio+ tay le^n cho tui
> bie^'t ddu+o+.c ho^ng ?
> 
> Vie^.t co^.ng (VC) theo ddi.nh nghi~a ddo+n thua^`n la` ngu+o+`i Vie^.t
> theo ly' tu+o+?ng co^.ng sa?n \.
> 
> Chu? nghi~a co^.ng sa?n chi? la` mo^.t chu? nghi~a, tu+. no' kho^ng co' gi`
> xa^'u ca?, ddo^i khi co`n dde.p, co`n ly' tu+o+?ng la` dda(`ng kha'c \. 
> Chi? co' ngu+o+`i thu+.c ha`nh no' sai la^`m tha`nh ra no' mang tie^'ng
> xa^'u la^y \.  Co' the^? vi` no' ly' tu+o+?ng qua' ne^n tro+? tha`nh kho^ng
> hie^.n thu+.c ne^n bi. ngu+o+`i ta nghi~ xa^'u ve^` no' \.  Co' the^? no'
> xa^'u tha^.t ne^n nhie^`u ngu+o+`i va^~n ma(.c ca?m vi` tro't lo+~ nghe
> theo \.
> 
> Ne^'u kho^ng ma(.c ca?m thi` ta.i sao la.i pha?n u+'ng ma.nh khi ngu+o+`i
> ta go.i mi`nh la` VC ?  Nhu+~ng ai co`n tu+. ha`o mi`nh la` ngu+o+`i CS
> thi` kho^ng ne^n bu+.c mi`nh khi <ddu+o+.c> go.i nhu+ va^.y !
> 
> Co' the^? ca'c ba'c bu+.c mi`nh vi` bi. go.i la` <tha(`ng> ?  The^' nhu+ng
> dda^y co' the^? la` su+. kha'c bie^.t va(n ho'a giu+~a hai mie^`n sau
> nhie^`u na(m chia ca('t \.  Tru+o+'c dda^y, tre^n die^~n dda`n na`y, tui
> dda~ tu+`ng tha^'y ngu+o+`i ta go.i ngu+o+`i kha'c la` <tha(`ng cha> na`y
> <tha(`ng cha> no., ro^`i <bo.n> no. <lu~> kia ma` kho^ng tha^'y ai pha?n
> ddo^'i, thi` hie^?u nga^`m la` ca'i va(n ho'a ngoa`i a^'y co' the^? cha^'p
> nha^.n nhu+~ng ca'ch go.i a^'y \.
> 
> Ba^y gio+` ta ba`n dde^'n chu+~ <Ngu.y> \.  Chu+~ <ngu.y> kho^ng bie^'t
> tu+. ddie^?n ddi.nh nghi~a ra sao, nhu+ng tui cu~ng lo+` mo+` hie^?u
> ddu+o+.c ra(`ng no' nghi~a la` kho^ng chi'nh danh, kho^ng to^'t, gia? bo^.,
> la'o, bu` nhi`n ... cha(?ng ha.n nhu+ trong <ngu.y qua^n tu+?> la` gia?
> bo^. qua^n tu+?, qua^n tu+? la'o \.  DDu+o+ng nhie^n chu+~ <ngu.y> na`y
> kho^ng pha?i la` nu+o+'c Ngu.y cu?a o^ng Ta`o Tha'o tho+`i Tam quo^'c ro^`i
> !
> 
> Chu+~ ngu.y o+? tre^n mo+'i co' y' nghi~a mie^.t thi. la`m sao \.  Va^.y
> ma` no' va^~n ddu+o+.c du`ng ro^.ng ra~i trong ca'c va(n kie^.n chi'nh
> thu+'c cu~ng nhu+ ca'c ba`i ba'o dda(ng trong nu+o+'c \.  Ca'i su+. chia
> re~ Ba('c Nam no' vo^'n dda~ co', nhu+ng ddu+o+.c hie^?n hie^.n o+? cho^?
> na`y \.  Bo+?i vi` cho dde^'n lu'c na`y ngu+o+`i ta va^~n nha^.n la^'y
> mi`nh la` chi'nh danh, co`n ngu+o+`i kha'c va^~n co`n la` <ngu.y> \.
> 
> Khi mi`nh go.i ngu+o+`i ta la` <ngu.y> thi` ho. pha?i ca^m la(.ng \. 
> DDe^'n khi ngu+o+`i ta go.i mi`nh la` <VC>, ha` co+' la`m sao mi`nh pha?i
> gia^.n du+~ ?
> 
> Frank Nguyen
> 

Ba'c Frank me^'n & all,

To^i xin ddu+o+.c go'p ddo^i lo+`i. Co' the^? no'i la` to^i hie^?u 
ddu+o+.c pha^`n na`o suy nghi~ cu?a ba'c. Qua? tha^.t va^'n dde^`
go.i te^n na`y no. tre^n VNSA cu~ng co`n co' nhu+~ng ma^u thua^~n
nhu+ ba'c no'i. Vie^.c go.i VC hay ngu.y dde^`u co' ti'nh cha^'t 
mie^.t thi. ca?, va` the^? na`o no' cu~ng ddo^.ng cha.m, xu'c pha.m
dde^'n nhie^`u ngu+o+`i co' lie^n quan. 

Va^'n dde^` xu+ng ho^ chi? la` be^` ma+.t ta^`m thu+o+`ng cu?a nhu+~ng 
ca'i phu+'c ta.p ho+n nhie^`u. Ro^`i tu+` ddo' se~ ddo^.ng cha.m dde^'n nhu+~ng 
thu+' kha'c nu+~a. Cha+?ng ha.n nhu+~ng va^'n dde^` chi'nh tri. nha.y 
ca?m ve^` chi'nh quye^`n, che^' ddo^, li.ch su+?,...

Ma+.c du` to^i nghi~ ba'c cu~ng nhu+ mo^.t va`i ngu+o+`i kha'c co' y'
muo^'n ddu+a nhu+~ng va^'n dde^` ddo' ra dda^y vo+'i tinh tha^`n 
nghie^m tu'c va` xa^y du+.ng, to^i nghi~ kho^ng co' ddu? gia^'y
bu't, bandwith hay ba^'t ki` mo^.t ca'i protocol na`o co' the^? la`m
ra.ch ro`i pha^n minh ra ddu+o+.c vi` nhu+~ng va^'n dde^` nhu+
the^' thu+o+`ng ke^'t thu'c ba+`ng nhu+~ng ca'ch nhi`n kha'c nhau
cu?a tu+`ng nguo+`i. Ddo' la` nhu+~ng va^'n dde^` nho? nha^'t
nhu+ ca'ch xu+ng ho^ ba'c vu+`a no'i, chu+' chu+a no'i dde^'n nhu+~ng
va^'n dde^` chi'nh tri. to ta't ho+n. Vi' du. nhu+ su+. pha't bie^?u
cu?a rie^ng ba'c ve^` Co^.ng sa?n dda~ chu+'a ddu+.ng nhie^`u 
ma^u thua^~n ma` dde^? la`m ro~ ra`ng y' ba'c muo^'n no'i to^i nghi~
la` va`i ca'i digests cu?a Vnsa cu~ng chu+a ddu?. Ddo' la` chu+a 
no'i dde^'n y' kie^'n cu?a nhu+~ng ngu+o+`i kha'c.

Ma+.t kha'c, to^i xin nha+'c la.i la` ca'i forum na`y ddu+o+.c la^.p ra
vo+'i tinh tha^`n quan ta^m nhu+~ng va^'n dde^` ga^`n gu.i thie^'t thu+.c 
nha^'t ddo^'i vo+'i DHS-NCS va` ho.c sinh trong nu+o+'c, cu~ng nhu+ vie^.c 
giu'p ddo+~ thie^'t thu+.c nha^'t cho dda^'t nu+o+'c trong kha? na+ng
cu?a ca'c netters kha+'p na+m cha^u, nhu+ vie^.c cu+'u giu'p cao thu+o+.ng 
cho be' TL, PL bi. ma'u tra+'ng  ma` nhie^`u ba'c dda~ va` ddang la`m. 
Sa la^`y va`o ca'c discussion nhu+ tre^n dda^y se~ kho^ng nhu+~ng kho^ng
gia?i quye^'t ddu+o+.c va^'n dde^` gi`, chi? to^'n bandwidth,  no' co`n 
la`m ba^`u kho^ng khi' vnsa ma^'t ti'nh la`nh ma.nh vo^'n co' va` ddi 
ngu+o+.c la.i phu+o+ng cha^m cu?a nhu+~ng nguo+`i dda~ la^.p ra no'. 

Vi` va^.y *to^'t nha^'t* to^i nghi~ ca'c ba'c ne^n ga'c la.i nhu+~ng 
va^'n dde^` sensitive ddo', hoa+.c thu+.c hie^.n o+? mo^.t forum kha'c
thi'ch ho+.p ho+n nhu+ vn-forum cha+?ng ha.n. Ngay ca? va^'n dde^`
the^' na`o la` sensitive the^' na`o kho^ng nhu+ co' ba'c no'i, cu~ng
kho^ng the^? na`o pha^n ddi.nh ddu+o+.c ra.ch ro`i ma` no' ca^`n dde^'n
common sense cu?a mo^~i nguo+`i dde^? suy xe't. Tuy va^.y vo+'i hoa`n
ca?nh li.ch su+? hie^.n ta.i cha+'c cha+?ng kho' gi` dde^? ddoa'n xem
the^' na`o la` politically sensitive. Vi` va^.y cu~ng kho^ng ne^n qua',
hoa+.c co^' ti`nh, ddu+a no' ra nhai ddi nhai la.i chi? dde^? la`m ma^'t 
tho+`i gian va` bandwith. At the same time, please refrain from using 
such derogatory terms as VC, ngu.y, and other politically sensitive 
nomenclatures, except for citing of the literatures. 

No'i ve^` tru+o+`ng ho+.p bi. banned cu?a o^ng Ang, to^i nghi~ ra+`ng
kho^ng pha?i ba?n tha^n chu+~ VC  o^ng ta du`ng ma` la` *no^.i dung*
(chi? co' va`i ca^u) cu?a ba`i post ddo' dda~ vi pha.m nghie^m tro.ng 
no^.i qui cu?a Vnsa va` xu'c pha.m dde^'n ra^'t nhie^`u ngu+O+`i tre^n 
forum na`y. Ba'c co' the^? kie^?m tra la.i.  Ne^'u ai co' the^? repost 
la.i the post of Mr. Ang thi` co' the^? tha^'y ngay ddie^`u ddo'.

Va`i do`ng. Tha^n me^'n, Long.