Re: Cu. Ho^` (was Re: Chien tranh dda~ ke^'t thu'c ta.i Danghestan)

[ThuanQ Tran <thuanqt@yahoo.com>]

Cha`o hai ba'c,

Co' ngu+o+`i ho+i chu't chu? quan cho la` ta^'t ca? dda.i dda so^' da^n
Vie^.t Nam ki'nh ne^? Ba'c Ho^` mo^.t ca'ch tuye^.t ddo^'i.  Ma` que^n
ho?i la` ca'i lo`ng ki'nh ye^u cu?a ngu+o+`i da^n ddo+'i vo+'i cu. Ho^`
la` tu+` ki'nh phu.c lo`ng nha^n cu?a cu. hay la` do mo^.t su+. tha^'m
nhua^`n cu?a na(m tha'ng ma` sinh ra?  Da^n Hoa Ky` ra^'t thi'ch George
Washington nhu+ng kho^ng coi la` o^ng tha'nh, ma` chi? ca ngo+.i o^ng
ta la` mo^.t trong nhu+~ng founding fathers cu?a ca'ch ma.ng gia`nh
ddo^.c la^.p cho Hoa Ky`.  Ca?m ti`nh thi` co' nhie^`u ddo', nhu+ng
da(m lu'c ngu+o+`i ta kho^ng nga.i ke^? nhu+~ng ca^u chuye^.n pha kho^i
ha`i ve^` bo^. ra(ng gia? cua? o^ng, hay hi`nh o^ng tre^n ddo^`ng
tie^`n, hay du`ng nga`y le^~ o^ng dde^? qua?ng ca'o ba'n ha`ng, v.v... 
Be^n Vie^.t Nam thi` kha'c, Ba'c Ho^` ddu+o+.c chu'c tu.ng va` dda(.t
va`o vi. tri' cu?a mo^.t cult figure.  Mo^.t dda nghi, tha('c ma('c,
hay lo+`i le~ kho^ng to^'t co^ng khai ddo^'i vo+'i Ba'c thi` coi nhu+
la` cho^'ng ddo^'i nha` nu+o+'c va` nha^n da^n.  Co' the^? ddi tu` ru.t
xu+o+ng, tu+o+ng tu+. nhu+ ddu.ng cha.m dde^'n hi`nh a?nh Chu'a Gie^-Su
trong tho+`i Christian Roman empire, hay ddo^'i vo+'i Mohammed cu?a
Ho^`i gia'o.  Nga`y tru+o+'c va`o nhu+~ng na(m ba?y mu+o+i ma^'y lu'c
co`n o+? VN sau gia?i pho'ng, to^i nho+' lu~ tre? trong tru+o+`ng ho.c
thu+o+`ng ddem hi`nh Ba'c Ho^` ra che^' nhie^~u mo^.t ca'ch le'n lu'c. 
-Du+'a na`o cu~ng bie^'t kho^ng khe'o la` cha me. bi. la~nh ddu?,
nhu+ng ca`ng ca^'m thi` lu~ tre? ca`ng thi'ch.  To^i nho+' co' mo^.t
lu'c trong tru+o+`ng ta^'t ca? nhu+~ng ta^'m hi`nh cu?a Ba'c dde^`u bi.
la^.t ngu+o+.c, va` bi. ve~ the^m ra^u.  La`m tha^`y hie^.u tru+o+?ng,
hie^.u pho' quy'nh le^n.  Tha(`ng em to^i ho.c lo+'p 4 va`o lu'c ddo',
co' ddu+'a be' na`o trong lo+'p no' nghi.ch mang hi`nh ba'c bo? va`o
ho.c tu? thay vi` treo le^n, o^ng tha^`y chu? nhie^.m va`o kie^'m
ddu+o+.c ta^'m hi`nh chi? mi~m cu+o+`i va` no'i :" ca'c em cho+i ki`
va^.y, bo? o^?ng vao` cho^? ki'n qua' o^?ng bi. ngho+.p tho+? sao? " 
Qua loa va`i ca^u la.i tho^i.  Nhu+~ng ma^~u chuye^.n co`n bi dda't
ho+n khi to^i qua dde^'n tra.i ti. na.n, nhu+ng kho^ng tie^.n ke^? ra. 
Ca'ch dda^y va`i na(m coi co' ddo.c ddu+o+.c mo^.t quye^?n sa'ch kha'
ly' thu' nhi`n Ho^` Chi' Minh vo+'i la` mo^.t nha^n va^.t thay vi`
mo^.t tha^`n tha'nh nhu+ lu'c nho? to^i thu+o+`ng ho.c va` nghe. 
Nhu+~ng cuo^.c tie^'p xu'c giu+~a Ba'c va` cu. Phan, nhu+~ng ba`i
vie^'t trao ddo^?i, v.v... no' giu'p con ngu+o+`i nha^.n thu+'c va`
nhi`n ve^` Cu. Ho^` mo^.t ca'ch kha'ch quan ho+n.  -Do^'i vo+'i da^n
Ba('c di cu+, da^n tha`nh pho^' dda~ so^'ng mo^.t tho+`i VNCH, da^n ti.
na.n o+? ha?i ngoa.i thi` kho^ng ma^'y co' a^'n tu+o+'ng to^'t vo+'i
cu. Ho^`.  Sau na`y to^i co' di.p ve^` tha(m Vie^.t Nam, to^i tha^'y
dda'm tre? trong Nam sinh sau tho+`i gia?i pho'ng thi` ra^'t ye^u ki'nh
Ba'c Ho^` du` chu'ng kho^ng co' so^'ng trong tho+`i chie^'n dde^?
bie^'t ddu+o+.c nhie^`u ve^` Ba'c.  Co' le~ chi? qua su+. tha^'m
nhua^`n cu?a sa'ch vo+? tru+o+`ng lo+'p, ba`i da.y cu?a tha^`y co^,
v.v... ca'c em ye^u thu+o+ng Ba'c mo^.t ca'ch uncondiontional. Di~
nhie^n kho^ng ma^'y khi cha me. trong gia ddi.nh la.i da'm tra'ch
ma('ng con ca'i vi` ye^u thu+o+ng Ba'c.  Nhu+~ng ngu+o+`i chu? su+. tu+
tu+o+?ng va` vie^'t la'ch la.i ca`ng to^ ve?, tha^`n tha'nh hoa' Ba'c
le^n nhie^`u ho+n.  Cho ne^n mo^.t ba`i vie^'t co' ti'nh ca'ch xu'c
pha.m dde^'n Ba'c thi` dda~ tru+.c tie^'p va cha.m vo+'i nhu+~ng lo+'p
sinh ra va` tha^'m nhua^`n hi`nh a?nh Ba'c, chu+' kho^ng ha(?n mo.i
ngu+o+`i dda^u.  Nhi`n vao` nha^n va^.t Ho^` Chi' Minh mo^.t ca'ch
kha'ch quan nhu+ nhi`n va`o nhu+~ng trang su+? kho^ng pha?i la` co' y'
ddi ngu+o+.c la.i nha^n da^n, to^? quo^'c.  Ca'i go^'c cu?a tu+. do tu+
tu+o+?ng la` o+? ddo'!  Co`n chuye^.n BT vie^'t ba`i la` chuye^.n cu?a
o^ng ta dda(.c bie^.t o+? mo^.t xu+' ma` gia^'y mu+.c thu+`a tha?i,
to^i  tha('c ma('c ta.i sao nha` nu+o+'c VN la.i overreact nhu+ va^.y. 
Va`ng kho^ng so+. lu+?a.  Co`n ve^` vie^.c nhu+~ng gio+'i tre? kho^ng
the^? na`o cha^'p nha^.n ddu+o+.c su+. phe^ pha'n hay nhu+~ng ba`i xu'c
pha.m dde^'n Ba'c cu~ng kho^ng ha(?n la` tra^`m tro.ng la('m.  Tu+o+ng
tu+. nhu+ mo^.t ddu+a' tre? ba^'t thi`nh la.i bi. ngu+o+`i ta ke^? ca^u
chuye^.n la` Superman hay Batman bi. ha. ba(`ng bad guy thi` la^'y la`m
hu.t ha^~ng. 

Cheers,

Thuan, 

--- Hoa Nguyen <thanhhuy@email.msn.com> wrote:
> Cha`o ba'c Vit Nguyen,
> Co`n ma^'y nga`y nu+~a la` thay thie^n nie^n ky?,
> nhi`n la.i to^i tha^'y
> the^' ky? hai mu+o+i na`y co' mo^.t ddie^`u ra^'t
> la. Pha^`n dda^`u the^'
> ky? toa`n sa?n xua^'t ra nhu+~ng con ngu+o+`i
> kho^?ng lo^`, ddu+o+.c coi
> nhu+ tha^`n tu+o+.ng, nhu+ ve^` chi'nh tri. co' :
> Gandhi, Lenin, To^n Da^.t
> Tie^n, Hitler, Stalin,  Roosevelt,  Churchill, Tojo,
>  Tu+o+?ng gio+'i
> Tha.ch, Mao Tra.ch Ddo^ng, va` o+? ca'c nu+o+'c nho?
> ho+n co' Ho^` Chi'
> Minh, Tito, Sukarno, U Nu, Kim Nha^.t Tha`nh...Ve^`
> qua^n su+. thi` cu~ng
> co' nhu+~ng tu+o+'ng la~nh ddu+o+.c coi nhu+ ca'c
> "tu+o+'ng nha` tro+'i"
> cu?a DDu+'c, Nga, Nha^.t, Anh, My~, Trung quo^'c,
> va` o+? VN ta co' Vo~
> Nguye^n Gia'p. Sang ha^.u ba'n the^' ky? 20, con
> ngu+o+`i nhu+ kho^n ho+n,
> hie^?u bie^'t ho+n, ta`i gio?i ho+n , nhu+ng va^~n
> kho^ng ti`m tha^'y
> ddu+o+.c nu+~a trong nha^n loa.i nhu+~ng nha^n va^.t
> "vi~ dda.i " cu?a
> pha^`n dda^`u the^' ky?. Ta.i sao ho. la.i tro+?
> tha`nh gio^'ng ngu+o+`i '
> co' nguy co+ tuye^.t chu?ng" hay dda~ tha^.t su+.
> tuye^.t chu?ng ? To^i cho
> ho. kho^ng co`n vo+'i chu'ng ta  nu+~a khi
> "environment" dda~ thay ddo^?i.
> Khi ca'i ba^`u khi' chi'nh tri. va` the^? che^'
> chuye^n chi'nh thay ddo^?i
> tha`nh da^n chu? ho+n thi` ta^m thu+'c va` ca'i
> nhi`n cu?a mo^~i "co^ng
> da^n" ve^` nhu+~ng "con ngu+o+`i cu?a li.ch su+?"
> cu~ng thay ddo^?i. Con
> ngu+o+`i ba^y gio+` ma^'t ddi ca'i khuynh hu+o+'ng
> tha^`n tu+o+.ng ho'a
> ngu+o+`i kha'c (tru+` trong gio+'i ca nha.c, ddie^.n
> a?nh, nhu+ng cu~ng
> bo+'t da^`n), va` co' ca'ch dda'nh gia'  ddo^`ng
> loa.i  "ddu'ng dda('n"
> ho+n, vi` tru't bo? ddu+o+.c nhu+~ng lo+'p ha`o
> quang cu?a a?o tu+o+?ng. Con
> ngu+o+`i kho^ng tro^ng cho+` co' nhu+~ng "cu+'u
> tinh" cho da^n to^.c hay
> nha^n loa.i nu+~a. Tho+`i na`y ra^'t kho' co' mo^.t
> con ngu+o+`i cha(?ng
> ha.n nhu+ Lenin xua^'t hie^.n giu+~a chu'ng ta.
> To^i tha`nh tha^.t nghi~ o^ng Ho^` Chi' Minh la`
> la~nh tu. chi'nh tri. lo+'n
> cu?a VN trong tho+`i ca^.n dda.i ( 30 na(m dda~ qua
> ro^`i), va` ra^'t xu+'ng
> dda'ng ddu+o+.c ngu+o+`i VN to^n ki'nh. Nhu+ng to^i
> kho^ng nghi~ ne^'u
> kho^ng co' "ba'c Ho^`" xua^'t hie^.n tre^n chi'nh
> tru+o+`ng VN na(m 1945,
> thi` cho to+'i ba^y gio+` VN va^~n co`n la` thuo^.c
> ddi.a cu?a thu+.c da^n
> Pha'p, hay la` thuo^.c ddi.a kie^?u mo+'i cu?a dde^'
> quo^'c My~, hoa(.c
> va^~n bi. chia la`m ba chu+' ddu+`ng no'i la`m hai.
> Dda^y la` mu+'c xa
> nha^'t to^i co' the^? vie^'t.
> Con ngu+o+`i ta.o ne^n li.ch su+? nhu+ng ddo^`ng
> tho+`i cu~ng la` na.n nha^n
> cu?a li.ch su+?, nha^'t la` pha?i chi.u su+. chi
> pho^'i bo+?i nhu+~ng qui
> lua^.t va^.n ha`nh trong lich su+? nha^n loa.i. VN
> dda~ tro+? ne^n nhu+
> nga`y nay la` vi` nhu+~ng qui lua^.t ddo' va` vi`
> nhu+~ng ddie^`u kie^.n
> kha'ch quan cu?a the^' ky? na`y. Co^ng (hay to^.i)
> kho^ng the^? quy cho
> mo^.t ngu+o+`i. To^i vo^'n ghe't va` nghi ngo+`
> chuye^.n ly' thuye^'t ,
> nhu+ng buo^.c pha?i cho.n ca'ch no'i mo+ ho^` co'
> khilo`ng vo`ng kie^?u na`y
> tho^i.
> Tro+? la.i nhu+~ng ddie^`u trong ba`i vie^'t cu?a
> Bu`i Ti'n thi` nhie^`u
> ngu+o+`i trong chu'ng ta cha('c cu~ng dda~ ddo.c
> tha^'y o+? cho^~ kha'c
> tru+o+'c ro^`i, ne^n la^`n na`y cu~ng kho^ng co' gi`
> la. va` mo+'i. Nhie^`u
> chuye^.n "bo^i ba'c" do ngu+o+`i kha'c vie^'t co`n
> te^. ho+n, nhu+ng rie^ng
> to^i kho^ng tin ma^'y, va` du` ne^'u va`i chuye^.n
> la` co' tha^.t thi` cu~ng
> kho^ng la`m to^i thay ddo^?i ca'ch nhi`n va^~n co'
> ve^` nha` chi'nh kha'ch
> lo+'n ddo'.
> Tra'i vo+'i y' nghi~ cu?a ba'c ve^` "ta^`m co+~"
> cu?a BT, to^i la.i tha^'y
> ba`i do Bu`i Ti'n vie^'t  ga^y "ta'c ha.i" nhie^`u
> ho+n la` do ngu+o+`i
> kha'c vie^'t (ngu+o+`i kha'c la` cha(?ng ha.n nhu+
> ba^'t cu+' ba'c na`o
> tre^n die^~n dda`n na`y). BT dda~ co' te^n tuo^?i
> tre^n ba'o chi' ngoa.i
> quo^'c, ddu+o+.c nhie^`u ngu+o+`i trong chi'nh
> gio+'i My~ , Pha'p bie^'t
> dde^'n. Ne^n kho^ng the^? ga'n cho ca'i danh 
> "traitor" la` ngu+o+`i kha'c
> se~ kho^ng ddo.c, kho^ng tin ba`i vie^'t . Nhu+ng
> theo to^i, ba`i vie^'t
> ddo' vo^ ha.i, nghi~a la` vo^ ha.i cho uy ti'n, te^n
> tuo^?i cu?a o^ng HCM
> tru+o+'c ma('t ngu+o+`i nu+o+'c ngoa`i. Tru+o+'c
> he^'t ba`i vie^'t tu+o+ng
> ddo^'i cu~ng "kho^ng co' gi`". Ke^' ddo', ngu+o+`i
> nu+o+'c ngoa`i va^~n
> nhi`n ba'c Ho^` cu?a chu'ng ta kha'c vo+'i ca'ch
> chu'ng ta nhi`n, du` ho.
> co' ddo.c hay kho^ng ddo.c ba`i BT dda~ vie^'t .
> Ta^'t nhie^n, pha?n u+'ng
> cu?a ba` PTT, ngu+o+`i pha't ngo^n bo^. Ngoa.i giao
> la` de^~ hie^?u va`
> cu~ng ca^`n thie^'t.
> Nguye^~n Ho`a
> .
> From: Vi.t Nguyen <davidvn@netscape.net>
> To: vnsa@List-Server.net <vnsa@List-Server.net>
> Date: Friday, August 27, 1999 6:27 PM
> Danghestan)
> 
> 
> Trong hoan canh cua minh, thuc ra O^ HCM da lam duoc
> nhung dieu lon lao ma
> toi
> thay co le phai 100 nam nua may ra VN moi san sinh
> ra duoc mot nguoi tuong
> tu
> de thay doi van menh nuoc nha.
> 
> Cai damage duy nhat to+'i su ton kinh cua toi voi
> cu. Ho^` la viec cu. tu
> viet
> ve minh de (gian tiep) ca ngoi minh. Sau nay nghi
> lai toi cho rang nhung
> chuyen ke duoi but danh Tran Dan Tien cung rat binh
> thuong, "vua di duong
> vua
> ke chuyen" ma. Co dieu sau do nhung tay boi but va
> ca bo may tuyen truyen da
> phong dai ton cu. len thanh Tha'nh so^'ng, co the la
> ngoai y muon ban dau
> cua
> cu.. Ai viet autobiography ma chang ca ngoi minh it
> nhieu. Neu la co tinh
> thi
> phai noi do la mot super trick cua mot politician
> tam co.
> Nhung chuyen khac nhu chuyen cu. Ho^` co con rieng,
> etc. thi toi khong cho
> la
> cai dinh gi ca. Co khi nhung chuyen do con lam toi
> ne^? cu. hon. (Dan Phap
> chang ai phan nan chuyen con ngoai gia thu cua cac
> nha lanh dao quoc gia,
> trai
> lai la dang khac)
> Gi chu discredit mot nhan vat loi la.c nhu O^ HCM
> trong con mat da so  nguoi
> Vietnam khong phai la chuyen de, it ra O^. Bui Ti'n
> chua du tam co+~ de lam
> duoc chuyen na`y, tru phi ong ay doi te^n.
> 
> Ai chua co di.p nen ngam nhin anh anh Ng Ai Quo^'c
> chu.p hoi o Phap, luc con
> tre? de thay khong de gi ma nhat ra trong dam 70-80
> trieu nguoi Vietnam mot
> nguoi co khuon mat sang sua den nhu vay.
> Toi tin la dau oc cua cu. Ho cung het suc sieu viet.
> 
> Tiec mot cai: sao cu la.i la dan xu Nghe^. chu khong
> phai nguoi Ha` lo^.i
> ;-)
> 
> > nu+~a. Ca'i ti`nh ca?m nhu+ the^' ddo' co' le~
> nga`y nay co`n da`nh cho
> ba'c
> > Ho^`, ne^n bai` vie^'t cu?a Bu`i Ti'n tre^n ba'o
> Times vu+`a ro^`i la`
> mo^.t
> > xu'c pha.m lo+'n cho nie^`m tin trong lo`ng cu?a
> ra^'t nhie^`u ngu+o+`i
> VN..
> > Nguye^~n Ho`a
> 
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