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ba`n ve^` tu*. do (was:Re: Subject: To Iga Nguyen)

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Subject: ba`n ve^` tu*. do (was:Re: Subject: To Iga Nguyen)
From: "DiemQuynh Nguyen" <diemquynhng@hotmail.com>
Date: Sat, 16 Oct 1999 10:59:00 PDT
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Hi all:
Nghe ca'c ba'c ba`n ve^` tu*. do, da^n chu?, nha^n quye^`n...la`m to^i 
buo^`n cu*o*`i!
Buo^~n cu*o*`i vi` ca'c ba'c nha^'m ta^'t ca? ve^~ ca(n nguye^n va` kha'i 
nie^.m!
Tu*. do, bi`nh dda(?ng etc.... la` do tro*`i sinh ra dda~ co'! Mo^.t ddu*'a 
be' ra ddo*`i vo*'i hai ba`n tay kho^ng la` bi`nh dda(?ng nhu* nhau, tu*. do 
nhu* nhau. Sau khi sinh ra con ngu*o8`i co' bi. gio*'i ha.n hay ma^'t ddi 
nhu*~ng quye^`n na`y la` do nhu*~ng the^? che^' do con ngu*o*`i ta.o ra 
gio*'i ha.n hoa(.c tu*o*'c bo? no' ddi! Thi' du. con ngu*o*`i la`m ra nha` 
tu` dde^? nho^'t the^? xa'c con ngu*o*`i la.i la` va^'n dde^` do  to^? 
chu*'c va` qua?n ly' cu?a tu*`ng xa~ ho^.i . Con ngu*o8`i la`m ra nhu*~ng 
dda.o lua^.t dde^? tro'i buo^.c su*. truye^~n ba' tu* duy cu?a con ngu*o*`i 
la.i cu~ng la` chuye^.n cu?a xa~ ho^.i muo^'n qua?n ly' nhu*~ng ca'i sa(~n 
co' trong thie^n nhie^n (tu*. ta.i). Do ddo' vie^.c ca`ng nga`y con ngu*o*`i 
ca`ng gia?m bo*'t nhu*~ng su*. ra`ng buo^.c nha^n ta.o (nha` tu`, lua^.t 
le^...)phi nha^n ba?n dde^? thay ba(`ng nhu*~ng ra`ng buo^.c mo*'i mang 
ti'nh va(n minh va` nha^n ba?n ho*n la` xu hu*o*'ng vu*o*n le^n cu?a ddo^.ng 
va^.t co' bo^. na~o tho^ng minh so^'ng tre^n ha`nh tinh na`y .
Trong ba?n tuye^n ngo^n ddo^.c la^.p cu?a VN co' tri'ch la.i mo^.t ca^u cu?a 
tuye^n ngo^n My~:
" Mo.i ngu*o*`i sinh ra dde^`u co' quye^`n bi`nh dda(?ng...
   Va` quye^`n mu*u ca^`u ha.nh phu'c...."
DDo' la` ca'i co^'t lo~i cu?a cuo^.c dda^'u tranh da`nh ddo^.c la^.p cu?a VN 
va` ta dda~ ca^`m ngo.n co*` tie^n phong trong phong tra`o dda^'u tranh  
gia?i pho'ng da^n to^.c, va` lo*`i tuye^n ngo^n bi`nh dda(?ng dda~ ddu*o*.c 
ddo.c trong mu`a thu tha'ng mu*o*`i vang da^.y ca? non so^ng.
To'm la.i quye^~n bi`nh dda(?ng, tu*. do, etc.... la` quye^`n cu?a con 
ngu*o*`i sinh ra...va` la.i bi. con ngu*o*`i (kha'c) gio*'i ha.n hay la`m 
ma^'t no' ddi, chuye^.n tra? la.i (kho^ng pha?i xin ai ban pha't 
ca?!)nhu*~ng quye^`n ca(n ba?n na`y la` chuye^.n ta^'t ye^'u cu?a mo^.t xa~ 
ho^.i va(n minh o*? ta^`ng cao ho*n!
Cheers
DX

From: tuan pham <tuan.pham@unsw.edu.au>
>"Dinhthi Quyen" <tiger2510@hotmail.com> wrote
>
> >Hi ba'c Tuan Pham,
> >
> >Sau khi DDo^ng a^u ddo^? Vie^.t nam va^~n gu+?i nguo+`i qua ta^'t ca?
> >ca'c
> >nuo+'c dde^? ho.c theo ta^'t ca? ca'c chuye^n nga`nh, ne^'u xin dduo+.c
> >ho.c
> >bo^?ng. Trong so^' ddo' to^i bie^'t co' nhie^`u nguo+`i theo ho.c lua^.t
> >ta.i DDu+'c. Ho. pha?i ho.c va` thi qua ca'c mo^n nhu+ Lua^.t to^?
> >chu+'c
> >Nha` nuo+'c, Hie^'n chuo+ng LHQ, va` ho. dde^`u ho.c ca'c ba`i gia?ng
> >co+
> >ba?n ve^` da^n chu? hay nha^n quye^`n theo ddi.nh nghi~a cu?a LHQ.
>
>Hi ba'c Quye^`n
>
>To^i ho?i ddua` kho^ng ngo+` ba'c tra? lo+`i 1 ca'ch
>ra^'t nghie^m tu'c! Thu' tha^.t to^i tha^'y ca'c y'
>tu+o+?ng cu?a ba'c kha' ngo^. nghi~nh.
>
>To^i cu~ng la` ho.c mo't da^n chu? ma^'y chu.c na(m
>chu+' chu+a he^` ho.c kho'a lua^.t na`o ve^` ddi.nh
>nghi~a da^n chu? cu?a LHQ ca?. Va^.y to^i xin ddu+a
>ra 1 va`i y' kie^'n ho.c mo't cu?a to^i nhe'.
>
>To^i ba?o dda?m ra(`ng da^n U'c, My~, Anh, Pha'p
>dde^'n 99.999% cu~ng ho.c mo't da^n chu? nhu+ to^i
>chu+' chu+a ai ddi ho.c 1 kho'a lua^.t na`o ve^`
>da^n chu? ca?. Nhu+ng ne^'u ba'c ba?o ho. kho^ng
>bie^'t ve^` da^n chu? thi` ho. se~ phi` cu+o+`i.
>Vi` da^n chu?, nha^n quye^`n cu~ng nhu+ tu+. do,
>tho+?, ye^u, kho^ng pha?i la` ca'i ma` ng` ta
>pha?i ddi ho.c chi'nh tho^'ng va` co+ ba?n ru`i
>mo+'i co'. Nh~ ca'i ddo' la` tu+. o+? ng` da^n
>ma` ra, do ngu+o+`i da^n co' quye^`n tu+. do
>nghi~, no'i, phe^ bi`nh, la`m ba'o, vie^'t
>sa'ch. Co`n ba?o "chi? co' nh~ ng` nha` nu+o+'c
>gu+?i ddi ho.c ve^` da^n chu? mo+'i co' quye^`n
>no'i chuye^.n da^n chu?", tu+. no', dda~ la` 1
>tha'i ddo^. ddo^.c ta`i ro^`i.
>
>
> >Co`n Iga
> >la` ho.c mo't, cho^.p gia^.t. Ho.c ba(`ng tie^`n ODA cu?a da^n Vie^.t
> >nam
> >ro^`i bu`ng ma^'t. DDa~ the^' la.i mang chie^u ba`i nha^n quye^`n ra
> >dde^?
> >gia?i thi'ch su+. o+? la.i cu?a mi`nh. Ne^'u Iga ho.c ba(`ng tie^`n cu?a
> >bo^' me. thi` to^i kho^ng no'i to+'i. Nhu+ng to^i tin ra(`ng tho+`i ky`
> >80-90, kho^ng co' ai sang DDo^ng a^u ho.c tu+. tu'c ca?.
> >
> >Than ai,
> >
> >DT Quyen.
> >
>
>Tru+o+'c he^'t xin nha('c ra(`ng ho.c bo^?ng
>la` do ngoa.i quo^'c cho nu+o+'c mi`nh,
>kho^ng pha?i la` tie^`n cu?a "nha` nu+o+'c".
>Nha` nu+o+'c chi? qua?n ly' ma` tho^i
>(ma` hi`nh nhu+ qua?n ly' ra^'t to^`i).
>
>Ba'c cho la` ai ddu+o+.c ho.c bo^?ng
>du ho.c la` kho^ng ddu+o+.c no'i chuye^.n nha^n
>quye^`n da^n chu?. Tu+. ca'i vie^.c gio+'i ha.n
>quye^`n a(n no'i nhu+ va^.y la` ddo^.c ta`i ro^`i.
>Du ho.c la` ddi ho.c nh~ ca'i hay la. cu?a xu+'
>ngu+o+`i. Nh~ ca'i hay la. ddo' no' co' muo^n va`n
>ca'i, dda^u pha?i cu+' gu+?i mo^~i ng` ddi ho.c 1
>ca'i la` ddu?. Ng` ddu+o+.c gu+?i ddi co' BO^?N
>PHA^.N tha^'y ca'i gi` hay co' the^? ho.c
>ddu+o+.c la` pha?i ho.c, du` la` mo't. Ho.c ma`
>tha^'y hay thi` pha?i truye^`n ba' la.i,
>nhu+ va^.y mo+'i la` la`m dda^`y ddu? lu+o+ng
>ta^m va` bo^?n pha^.n cu?a ng` da^n. Chu+'
>chi? 100 ng` ddi ho.c physics, 200 ng` ddi
>ho.c ky~ su+, 300 ng` ddi ho.c kinh te^'
>ro^`i ve^` nha` ca('m cu'i tra? ba`i thi`
>nu+o+'c mi`nh bao gio+` kha' ddu+o+.c.
>
>Ne^'u ba'c cho nh~ lo+`i to^i no'i la` sai, thi`
>thu+? coi Phan Bo^.i Cha^u, Nguye^~n A'i Quo^'c,
>Nguye^~n Tha'i Ho.c, Phan Chu Trinh co' ho.c kho'a
>co+ ba?n na`o ve^` tu+. do da^n chu? kho^ng?
>Ho. cu~ng chi? toa`n la` ho.c mo't ba(`ng ca'ch
>du`ng ma('t, tai dde^? nhi`n ca'ch ng` ta so^'ng,
>du`ng bo^. o'c dde^? tu+. suy nghi~.
>Ngoa`i ra ho. cu~ng luo^n luo^n khuye^'n khi'ch
>ddo^`ng ba`o mi`nh suy nghi~ ve^` da^n chu?
>chu+' co' bao gio+` ba?o ddo+.i ddu+o+.c da.y
>co+ ba?n ro^`i mo+'i ddu+o+.c no'i dda^u.
>
>Nha^n tie^.n dda^y no'i ve^` msg cu?a ba'c
>chi? tri'ch mo.i ng` ta.i sao kho^ng go'p
>y' cho ba'o Nha^n Da^n:
>Ba'c muo^'n giu'p bao ddo' thi` giu'p, nhu+ng
>ta.i sao la.i ddo`i ng` kha'c cu~ng la`m va^.y?
>Ne^'u ba'c co' ca?m ti`nh vo+'i no' thi`
>cu+' ddo'ng go'p y' kie^'n, ne^'u kho^ng co'
>ca?m ti`nh thi` vie^.c chi ma` pha?i giu'p.
>Khi tha^'y 1 anh cha`ng khoa'c la'c
>no'i ba^.y va` tu+. xu+ng ra(`ng
>mi`nh dda.i die^.n cho ta^'t ca? mo.i ngu+o+`i,
>ca^'m kho^ng ai ddu+o+.c no'i kha'c thi` ba'c
>co`n muo^'n go'p y' vo+'i anh ta kho^ng?
>
>Ca'i quan tro.ng la` va.ch ca'i sai cho mo.i
>ng` tha^'y dde^? kho?i tin ba^.y. Ne^'u ba'o ddo'
>ma` co' lu+o+ng ta^m nghe^` nghie^.p thi` se~
>tu+. su+?a, co`n kho^ng thi` se~ hoa`n toa`n
>ma^'t uy ti'n va` se~ co' ba'o kha'c hay ho+n
>le^n thay, mie^~n la` co' tu+. do ba'o chi'.
>Tu+. do ba'o chi' na`y la` 1 ddie^`u khoa?n
>na(`m trong hie^'n pha'p CHXHCNVN va` do ddo'
>hoa`n toa`n phu` ho+.p hie^'n pha'p cu?a vnsa.
>
>Cheers
>Tuan Pham
>

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