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'Beautifully written, macabre and thoroughly nasty...it is evocative of the nasty fairy tales like Little Red Riding Hood and The Babes in the Wood, with a bit of Victorian Gothic thrown in. ... What does shine through is her ability to see the world through a child's eyes' Daily Express 'Makes horror irresistible' Glasgow Sunday Mail 'A gruesome saga...the storyline is compelling, many millions have no wish to put this down' Ms London 'There is strength in her books - the bizarre plots matched with the pathos of the entrapped' The Times
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V.C. Andrews® has been a bestselling phenomenon since the publication of Flowers in the Attic, which was followed by four more Dollanganger family novels: Petals on the Wind, If There Be Thorns, Seeds of Yesterday, and Garden of Shadows. Since then, readers have been captivated by more than seventy novels in V.C. Andrews’s bestselling series, which have sold more than 106 million copies and have been translated into more than twenty-five foreign languages.
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One of the most popular authors of all time, V.C. Andrews has been a bestselling phenomenon since the publication of her spellbinding classic Flowers in the Attic. That blockbuster novel began her renowned Dollanganger family saga, which includes Petals on the Wind, If There Be Thorns, Seeds of Yesterday, and Garden of Shadows. Since then, readers have been captivated by more than fifty novels in V.C. Andrews' bestselling series. The thrilling new series featuring the March family continues with Scattered Leaves, forthcoming from Pocket Books. V.C. Andrews' novels have sold more than one hundred million copies and have been translated into sixteen foreign languages.
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19 of 21 people found the following review helpful
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Robin M Goffinet
on June 27, 2004
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This sequal is a little different from the rest as it is told from the perspective of Cathy's kids Bart and Jory.
Bart is a troubled little boy who seems to get his jollies from torture and disrespect. Jory is the complete opposite. When the mysterious "Woman in Black" moves in next door, things get really interesting. Bart discovers that the man that has been his father all thru his childhood is not really his father, but his uncle and his mother's incestial relationship with him.
The woman next door turns out to be someone you NEVER in a million years expected her to be and the ending displays an almost supernatural sort of love. Read it! You won't be sorry!
Bart is a troubled little boy who seems to get his jollies from torture and disrespect. Jory is the complete opposite. When the mysterious "Woman in Black" moves in next door, things get really interesting. Bart discovers that the man that has been his father all thru his childhood is not really his father, but his uncle and his mother's incestial relationship with him.
The woman next door turns out to be someone you NEVER in a million years expected her to be and the ending displays an almost supernatural sort of love. Read it! You won't be sorry!
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24 of 29 people found the following review helpful
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on April 29, 2006
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The greatest lovers in the history of literature are back. When we last left Cathy and Chris they were living happily ever after in their dream house in rural California with their two sons Jory 14, and Bart 10. They also have a new adopted infant daughter Cindy. Their cover story is that Chris was the much younger brother of Cathy's late husband Dr. Paul, hence their last name is Sheffield.
But since this is VC Andrews there are troubles in paradise. Bart is a sadistic psycho who hates everyone and tortures animals. His behavior can only be attributed to mental illness since Cathy and Chris have provided a ridiculously sweet childhood for him. To make things worse, the surviving Foxworths, John and Corrine are back and the Sheffields' new next door neighbors. They entice Bart and Jory over to their house with gifts all the time corrupting them with Cathy and Chris's dark past and with tales of how noble the late Malcolm was for punishing "devil's issue" whom commit incest.
When Bart begins attacking his parents calling them "Devil's issue," they realize it's time to pay their new neighbors a visit.
The flaws: The key problem with `ITBT' is that it pales in comparison to the other Dollanganger books. While those books brought us to tears that just wouldn't stop and caused me to miss weeks of sleep, (literally) `ITBT' comes off more like a made for TV sequel with a thin plot existing only as an excuse to bring back the greatest lovers in the history of literature Cathy and Chris who fans can't get enough of. If Cathy and Chris went to an insurance seminar it would still be interesting.
The other major flaw is the villain Bart.Read more ›
But since this is VC Andrews there are troubles in paradise. Bart is a sadistic psycho who hates everyone and tortures animals. His behavior can only be attributed to mental illness since Cathy and Chris have provided a ridiculously sweet childhood for him. To make things worse, the surviving Foxworths, John and Corrine are back and the Sheffields' new next door neighbors. They entice Bart and Jory over to their house with gifts all the time corrupting them with Cathy and Chris's dark past and with tales of how noble the late Malcolm was for punishing "devil's issue" whom commit incest.
When Bart begins attacking his parents calling them "Devil's issue," they realize it's time to pay their new neighbors a visit.
The flaws: The key problem with `ITBT' is that it pales in comparison to the other Dollanganger books. While those books brought us to tears that just wouldn't stop and caused me to miss weeks of sleep, (literally) `ITBT' comes off more like a made for TV sequel with a thin plot existing only as an excuse to bring back the greatest lovers in the history of literature Cathy and Chris who fans can't get enough of. If Cathy and Chris went to an insurance seminar it would still be interesting.
The other major flaw is the villain Bart.Read more ›
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5 of 5 people found the following review helpful
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Out of all the books in the Dollanganger series, this is the darkest one. This story is about Cathy's boys Jory (the good son) and Bart (the bad son). Cathy and Christopher trys to get away from their past but someone is always behind them. Her son Bart becomes the embodiment of her grandfather Malcolm Foxworth.
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3 of 3 people found the following review helpful
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Jon Karsen
on May 25, 2005
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This is the one of the only books which features a non-queen hero(s), as the main charater. V.C. Amdrews does a good job at writing a book, based on what a boy's perspective might be- perspective... Both Jory and Bart are very good characters, that show a lot of understanding for their mother and father. That's until Bart goes crazy from John Amos twisting his mind with, the diary from Malcom Foxworth. His grandfather. It's an important book, that the Dollenganger series would'nt be complete without.
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11 of 15 people found the following review helpful
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on October 28, 2008
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Ah, Virginia Clark Andrews. She was soooo bad, she made Jackie Susann look like Nabokov. To paraphrase Stephen King (writing about another unspeakable writer), "She wouldn't know a balanced line of prose from a poo-and-anchovy pizza." I picked up the first of her Dollanganger novels when I was thirteen. It gave me hope: I realized that if this V.C. Andrews person could write so dreadfully and still get her piece of dreck published, maybe, just maybe, I could someday do the same.
Still, I admit that her first two books were addictive reading. By this one, book three, it's time to say, "Joke's over." Nothing in any of the books is even remotely believable: Corinne Foxworth is one of the world's most famous heiresses, constantly photographed and written about, but NOT ONE of her former acquaintances from Gladstone, Pennsylvania ever sees a photo of her and contacts a tabloid with the news that Mrs. Foxworth used to be Mrs. Dollanganger, suburban Momma of four? The kids' late father somehow avoiding military service in WWII? (Even my dad-in-law, married with a child and 35 years old, was drafted in 1944!) Cathy is a ballet dancer in New York, surrounded by heterosexual male dancers! OK, OK, on to "Thorns". Here's the scoop!
Cathy and Chris, our incestuous lovers, are now living as man and wife somewhere in California. They had a ranch house built with an attic large enough to put beds in and to go dancing in. Yeah, right. They live with Jory (what a name), her son with her late husband Julian (a very perverted creep) and Bart (NOBODY names their kid Bart anymore), her son with her late stepfather Bart Senior. Jory is another straight ballet dancer. None of the kids at school give him a hard time about being a ballet dancer (and this was set in the early 1980s.Read more ›
Still, I admit that her first two books were addictive reading. By this one, book three, it's time to say, "Joke's over." Nothing in any of the books is even remotely believable: Corinne Foxworth is one of the world's most famous heiresses, constantly photographed and written about, but NOT ONE of her former acquaintances from Gladstone, Pennsylvania ever sees a photo of her and contacts a tabloid with the news that Mrs. Foxworth used to be Mrs. Dollanganger, suburban Momma of four? The kids' late father somehow avoiding military service in WWII? (Even my dad-in-law, married with a child and 35 years old, was drafted in 1944!) Cathy is a ballet dancer in New York, surrounded by heterosexual male dancers! OK, OK, on to "Thorns". Here's the scoop!
Cathy and Chris, our incestuous lovers, are now living as man and wife somewhere in California. They had a ranch house built with an attic large enough to put beds in and to go dancing in. Yeah, right. They live with Jory (what a name), her son with her late husband Julian (a very perverted creep) and Bart (NOBODY names their kid Bart anymore), her son with her late stepfather Bart Senior. Jory is another straight ballet dancer. None of the kids at school give him a hard time about being a ballet dancer (and this was set in the early 1980s.Read more ›
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11 of 15 people found the following review helpful
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Chadwick H. Saxelid
on October 10, 2001
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After the disappointing Petals on the Wind I wondered just what story was left to tell about Cathy and Chris and their troubled family. Not much it seems.
This tale revolves around Cathy writing the book that would become 'Flowers in the Attic' while an elderly lady and her sour and sinister butler try to connect with her children, Bart and Jory. You don't have to be a rocket scientist to figure out just who the old lady is.
The two children (one well adjusted, the other suffering mentally) take turns telling the bitter tale. While that makes for an uneven narrative it does get the novel closer to the gothic tone of the fractured fairy tale mixed with taboo shattering family secrets in Flowers than the meandering, heavy on the soap suds Petals did. Close but no cigar.
This tale revolves around Cathy writing the book that would become 'Flowers in the Attic' while an elderly lady and her sour and sinister butler try to connect with her children, Bart and Jory. You don't have to be a rocket scientist to figure out just who the old lady is.
The two children (one well adjusted, the other suffering mentally) take turns telling the bitter tale. While that makes for an uneven narrative it does get the novel closer to the gothic tone of the fractured fairy tale mixed with taboo shattering family secrets in Flowers than the meandering, heavy on the soap suds Petals did. Close but no cigar.
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