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Re: China & Vietnam
On Wed, 19 Mar 1997 huy.duong@ctsu.ox.ac.uk wrote:
> Mi`nh chi? co' ba ca'ch -de^? cho^'ng la.i Ta`u.
>
> 1) Tha^n thie^.n vo+'i no'.
> 2) Cho no' bie^'t la` tuy no' co' the^? tha<'ng -du+o+.c mi`nh nhu+ng
> no' pha?i tra? mo^.t gia' qua' -da<'t.
> 3) Nhu+~ng nu+o+'c kha'c giu'p mi`nh va` co' bie^.n pha'p vo+'i Ta`u.
>
> Khi na`o Ta`u la` mo^.t nu+o+'c da^n chu? thi` mo+'i co' the^? co'
> (1). Ba^y gio+` -di -do^i vo+'i bo.n -do^.c ta`i -do' la` sai vo+'i
> -da.o ly', va` co' -di -do^i cu~ng kho^ng tin -du+.o+.c la` bo.n
> -do' se~ kho^ng cu+o+'p mi`nh.
100% agree
> Tu+` xu+a to+'i gio+` mi`nh tha<'ng Ta`u la` nho+` -dia. the^', ta`i na<ng
> va` y' chi'. Nga`y nay ky~ thua^.t vu~ khi' co' the^? che^' ngu+. -du+o+.c
> thie^n nhie^n va` con ngu+o+`i va` la`m gia?m nhu+~ng u+u the^' tu+. ve^.
> cua? mi`nh. Tre^n -da^'t lie^`n, ma'y bay pha?n lu+.c bay tu+` Ta`u to+'i Ha`
> No^.i chi? ca^`n 30 phu't va` vo+'i nhu+~ng phu+o+ng tie^.n co+ khi' nu'i
> ru+`ng kho^ng co`n la` chie^'n khu ba^'t kha? xa^m pha.m cu?a ngu+o+`i du
> ki'ch. Tre^n bie^?n la` no+i mi`nh kho^ng co' u+u the^' thie^n nhie^n va` con
> ngu+o+`i. Ne^'u muo^'n Ta`u tra? gia' -da<'t, nha^'t la` tre^n bie^?n, mi`nh
> pha?i co' vu~ khi' to^'i ta^n. Vie^.t Nam kho^ng the^? theo ki.p ha?i qua^n
> Ta`u, nhu+ng -de^? ba?o ve^. nhu+~ng vu`ng bie^?n va`i tra<m da<.m tu+`
> -da^'t lie^`n thi` kho^ng qua^n, tuy re? ho+n va` de^~ hua^'n luye^.n ho+n,
> co' ra^'t nhie^`u u+u the^'. Trong chie^'n tranh Falklands giu+~a Anh va`
> Argentina, tuy Argentina chi? co' ma'y bay tu+` 1960s va` pha?i bay -to+'i
> extreme ranges -de^? -da'nh ha.m -do^.i Anh to^'i ta^n nhi` the^' gio+'i va` co'
> ha`ng kho^ng ma^~u ha.m, Anh co' the^? -da~ thua ne^'u My~ kho^ng giu'p hoa?
> tie^~n pho`ng kho^ng. The^m va`o -do', chie^'n tranh vo+'i My~ cho tha^'y u+u
> the^' tre^n kho^ng mie^`n Ba<'c cho phe'p ke? thu` tie^u die^.t mo.i mu.c tie^u
> lo+'n ne^'u muo^'n.
To^i nghi~ la` vo+'i te^n lu+?a dda^'t ddo^'i bie^?n ta^`m xa mi`nh cu~ng
co' the^? "cho+i" ddu+o+.c ta`u chie^'n cu? a tu.i no'.
Co' ddie^`u la` lie^.u tu.i no' co' gio+'i ha.n cuo^.c chie^'n chi? tre^n
bie^?n kho^ng? Cu+' cho la` kho^ng qua^n VN ca^'t ca'nh tu+` dda^'t
lie^`n se~ co' u+u the^' ho+n tu.i ta`u. Nhu+ng tu.i no' dda^u co' hie^`n
tu+` gi` ma` kho^ng oanh ta.c Ha`no^.i va` xua bo^. binh qua bie^n gio+'i.
Nhu+ va^.y mo^.t khi ta tra? lo+i` su+. xa^m la^'n cu?a no' ba(`ng
phu+o+ng tie^.n qua^n su+. (du` chi? dde^? tra? ddu?a tre^n bie^?n)
ta pha?i cha^'p nha^.n la` chie^'n tranh toa`n die^.n se~ co' the^? xa?y ra.
> Ve^` -do^`ng minh thi` tuy kho^ng ai u+a Vie^.t Nam mi`nh, co' ra^'t
> nhie^` nu+'o+'c i't u+a Ta`u ho+n. My~, Nha^.t lo nga.i ve^` su+'c ma.nh
> cua? Ta`u, va` bie^'t Ta`u ca<m mi`nh. Nga kho^ng u+a gi` Ta`u. A^'n -Do^. co'
> -da^'t bi. Ta`u chie^'m. Korea -da~ tu+`ng bi. Ta`u -da'nh. Nhu+~ng nu+o+'c
> Muslims kho^ng bie^'t co' nghi~ -de^'n Xinjiang bi. Ha'n hoa' kho^ng? ASEAN
> cu~ng so+. Ta`u, nu+o+'c ma.nh nha^'t la` Indonesia lo nga.i ve^` Ta`u. Mai
> mo^'t da^n Myanmar -du+o+.c tu+. do cha<'c cu~ng kho^ng que^n Ta`u u?ng ho^.
> SLORC. Mi`nh co' the^? resurect a symbolic link vo+'i Pha'p kho^ng?
> Co`n Taiwan thi` xu+'c ma^'y cho.c tu+'c o^ng anh ca? la'ng gie^`ng vi`
> ngu+o+`i kho^ng ba` con xa.
Kho^ng bie^'t trong ma^'y tha(`ng gh'et ta`u tre^n dda^y, tha(`ng na`o
se~ sa(~n lo`ng ha^u. thua^?n cho Vietnam, mo^.t khi chie^'n tranh xa?y ra?
> ASEAN thi` co' defence spending ba<`ng Ta`u (to^i nho+' va^.y tu+`
> Economist tua^`n tru+o+'c) nhu+ng so+. Ta`u to+'i no^~i kho^ng da'm act on
> common interest. La`m sao ma` mi`nh co' the^? la^'y -du+o+.c su+. giu'p -do+~
> cua? nhu+ng nu+o+'c kha'c? Co' economic va` defence treaty na`o mi`nh co' the^?
> va`o kho^ng? Ba'c La^m kho^ng nghi~ la` mo^.t ne^`n kinh te^' va` mo^.t civil
> society gio^'ng nhu+~ng nu+o+'c co' the^? giu'p mi`nh se~ la`m mi`nh va`o
> nhu+~ng treaty vo+'i ho. de^~ ho+n sao? Va` se~ ta.o ra the^m common interests
> sao?
> Sa'ng nay to^i nghe la do^ no'i Taiwan vu+a` ba<'t -da^`u thu+? hoa? tie^~n.
> Va^'n -de^` ha?i qua^n My~ ba?o ve^. Taiwan, tuy ly' do chi'nh la` Taiwan la`
> a major trading nation, -du+o+.c ngu+o+`i ta lie^n quan to+'i su+. `tru+o+?ng
> tha`nh' va` `da^n chu?' (theo -di.nh nghia~ cua? bo.n Ta^y) cua? Taiwan.
> To^i nghi~ ne^'u Ta`u xa^m la<ng Taiwan thi` du+ lua^.n ve^` xa~ ho^.i
> Taiwan cu~ng co' mo^.t a?nh hu+o+?ng na`o cho quye^'t -di.nh cua? ca'c
> chi'nh phu? Ta^y phu+o+ng ve^` ca'ch giu'p -do+~ Taiwan.
Kho^ng bie^'t ca^u to^i sa('p no'i ra dda^y co' pha.m VNSA's taboo kho^ng,
nhu+ng xa^y du+.ng "civil society" va` la`m cho Vietnam "tru+o+?ng tha`nh
va` da^n chu? (theo ddinh nghia~ cu?a bo.n Ta^y)" co' ve~ ddi ngu+o+.c
ddu+o+`ng lo^'i ddo^.c DDa?ng va` "xa^y du+.ng CNXH" cu?a today's
Vietnamese leaders.
Ma(.t kha'c, cho da^~u ca'c cu. a^'y ddo^`ng y' la`m chuye^.n a^'y thi`
i't ra cu~ng pha?i 5-7 na(m nu+?a process a^'y mo+'i cho tha^'y hie^u qua?.
Trong tho+`i gian a^'y thi` tu.i ta`u dda~ ki.p kho^ng nhu+~ng hoa`n
tha`nh chu+o+ng tri`nh oil & gas exploration cu?a no' o+? Truong Sa ma` co'
the^? dda~ ba('t dda^`u giai ddoa.n exploitation ro^`i.
BTW, to^i do^``ng y' vvo+'i ba'c Huy la` ta pha?i ti`m ca'ch hoa` nha^.p
tha^.t su+. va`o co^.ng ddo^`ng the^' gio+'i thi` mo+'i mong ho. ta^.n
ti`nh u~nh ho^. du+o+.c. Xin ddu+o+.c mie^~n ba`n ho^.u nha^.p ba(`ng
ca'ch na`o (ke?o ca'c anh a^'y la.i ky~ lua^.t cho thi` he^'t ddu+o+.c
ddo.c y' kie^'n cu?a ca'c ba'c)
Regards, Buu-Long