Pho?ng va^'n Le^ DDa.t

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	CHUYE^.N VA(N HO.C 

  		PHO?NG VA^'N LE^ DDA.T

LTS: Le^ DDa.t la` mo^.t nha` tho+ thuo^.c nho'm Nha^n Va(n Giai Pha^?m
ho^`i giu+~a tha^.p nie^n 50, ba^y gio+` so^'ng o+? Ha` No^.i\. Le^ DDi`nh 
DDie^?u cu?a dda`i pha't thanh VNCR (Viet Nam California Radio) vu+`a
ro^`i co' pho?ng va^'n Le^ DDa.t qua ddie^.n thoa.i ve^` vie^.c sa'ng ta'c
tho+\. Sau dda^y la` pha^`n chi'nh cu?a cuo^.c pho?ng va^'n.

LE^ DDI`NH DDIE^?U: Thu+o+`ng thu+o+`ng nhu+~ng lu'c la`m tho+ thi` anh 
ngo^`i cho^~ na`o\?

LE^ DDA.T: To^i co' mo^.t ca'i ga'c go^~ nho?, nga`y xu+a ngu+o+`i ta go.i
la` chuo^`ng bo^` ca^u, co' cu+?a so^? ra^'t ro^.ng nhi`n ra ra^'t nhie^`u 
ca^y va` khoa?ng xanh o+? tru+o+'c ma(.t.

LDDDD: Ra^'t la` ne^n tho+! Thu+o+`ng anh vie^'t bao la^u thi` xong mo^.t
ba`i tho+\?

LE^ DDA.T: Cu~ng tu`y\. Vie^'t mo^.t ba`i thi` cu~ng cho'ng tho^i, nhu+ng
chu+~a la.i thi` ma^'t ra^'t nhie^`u thi` gio+`. Hi`nh nhu+ to^i ho+i "la^?m
ca^?m" o+? cho^~ a^'y\. La`m thi` nhanh nhu+ng chu+~a la.i thi` ra^'t va^'t
va?.

LDDDD: Ga^`n dda^y to^i co' ddo.c tre^n ba'o Die^~n DDa`n be^n Pha'p va` ta.p
chi' Tho+ o+? Cali co' dda(ng mo^.t so^' tho+ cu?a anh, va` dda(.c bie^.t co'
hai ba`i anh vie^'t dde^? coi nhu+ la` bi`nh tho+, ve^` nhu+~ng ba`i tho+
co^?, ra^'t la` ly' thu'. Nhu+ng ma(.t kha'c trong ba`i cu?a DDa(.ng Tie^'n
no'i ve^` cuo^'n tho+ Bo'ng Chu+~ cu?a anh la.i cho tha^'y anh la` ngu+o+`i
muo^'n khai pha' mo^.t ddu+o+.c lo^'i tho+ mo+'i; co' ve? nhu+ co' hai con
ngu+o+`i trong mo^.t Le^ DDa.t cha(ng?

LE^ DDA.T: Kho^ng co' dda^u anh a.. Nha` tho+ mo+'i la` mo^.t bo^. ha`nh cu?a
ne^`n va(n ho'a nha^n loa.i\. Mo^.t ngu+o+`i hie^.n dda.i ma` kho^ng bie^'t
tho+ co^? thi` to^i cho kho^ng the^? hie^.n dda.i ddu+o+.c. Mi`nh pha?i bie^'t
nha^n loa.i dda~ ddi dde^'n dda^u ro^`i chu+' mi`nh kho^ng ne^n la(.p la.i\.
To^i nho+' mo^.t nha` tho+ Pha'p co' mo^.t ca^u ra^'t hay Le~ di~ nhie^n
to^i kho^ng muo^'n la`m tho+ co^?, to^i cu~ng kho^ng tho+` phu.ng tho+
hie^.n dda.i, to^i chi? muo^'n tho+ to^i tro+? tha`nh co^? ddie^?n. Nghi~a la`
no' mo+'i nhu+ng va^~n mang ma`u sa('c, nhu+ la` dda~ ddi qua ra^'t nhie^`u
tho+`i gian cu?a li.ch su+? thi ca nha^n loa.i\.

LDDDD: Theo anh thi` co' nhu+~ng ba`i na`o, ca^u na`o cu?a Le^ DDa.t dda~
tro+? tha`nh co^? ddie^?n?

LE^ DDA.T: Ca'i ddo' pha?i dde^? da`nh cho ddo^.c gia?, ngu+o+`i la`m tho+
kho^ng the^? vu+`a dda' bo'ng vu+`a tho^?i co`i\...

LDDDD: Trong tho+`i gian ma` anh la`m tho+, co' le~ cu~ng dde^'n nu+?a
the^' ky? ro^`i, tho+ mang ti'nh ho+i cu~ mo^.t chu't, nghi~a la` theo
ddu+o+`ng lo^'i cu~, co' ba`i na`o anh thi'ch? Hay la` ngay khi mo+'i
ba('t dda^`u la`m tho+ la` anh dda~ khai pha' mo^.t ddu+o+`ng lo^'i mo+'i va`
kho^ng co' ne't co^? na`o trong tho+ cu?a anh?

LE^ DDA.T: To^i chu? tru+o+ng tu+` dda^`u pha?i ti`m ca'ch la`m tho+ mo+'i,
tho+`i ky` tho+ mo+'i na(m 1930 vo+'i Huy Ca^.n, Xua^n Die^.u\... theo
to^i dde^'n ba^y gio+` dda~ ho+i gia` qua' ro^`i\. Mo+'i tho+`i a^'y ba^y 
gio+` la` co^?. To^i muo^'n ti`m mo^.t ca'i gi` mo+'i, nhu+ng cu~ng va^'t 
va? la('m.

LDDDD: Ba`i dda^`u tie^n anh la`m la` na(m na`o\?

LE^ DDA.T: Tu+` lu'c nho? tuo^?i to^i cu~ng dda~ ba^.p be. la`m tho+, cho+i
tho^i, to^i la`m tho+ tu+` ho^`i chi'n mu+o+`i tuo^?i\. Lu'c ddo' kho^ng ai
nghi~ se~ la`m tho+ gi`. Ba('t dda^`u na(m 20 tuo^?i to^i dda~ ba('t dda^`u 
co' y' thu+'c la` muo^'n thay ddo^?i tho+ mo+'i cu?a nhu+~ng na(m 1930 ddi\.

LDDDD: Ba`i dda^`u tie^n anh dda(ng ba'o la` ba`i na`o\?

LE^ DDA.T: Ba`i dda^`u tie^n dda(ng o+? ta.p chi' Va(n Nghe^., ba^y gio+` 
to^i kho^ng co`n nho+'. Lu'c ba^'y gio+` ddang tho+`i ky` kha'ng chie^'n. 
To^i chi? nho+' mo^.t ca^u Hoa mua no+? hie^`n la`nh, chi? mo^.t ca^u ddo' 
tho^i\.

LDDDD: The^' ro^`i khi anh hoa.t ddo^.ng cu`ng ma^'y vi. trong nho'm Nha^n
Va(n Giai Pha^?m, nhu+ Tra^`n Da^`n, Phu`ng Qua'n... thi` co' ddie^?m na`o
chung giu+~a ca'c nha` tho+ cu?a tho+`i ddo' kho^ng?

LE^ DDA.T: Co' ddie^?m chung la` ca^`n pha?i ddo^?i mo+'i, nhu+ng mo^~i 
ngu+o+`i ddo^?i mo+'i theo mo^.t ca'ch kha'c, anh Da^`n mo^.t ca'ch, to^i 
mo^.t ca'ch. Anh Qua'n chu' y' no^.i dung ra^'t nhie^`u, tho+ anh Qua'n co'
nhie^`u ti'nh cha^'t die^~n xua^'t co`n go.i la` "ddo^.c ta^'u," to^i vo+'i
anh Da^`n thi` chu' y' dde^'n hi`nh thu+'c nhie^`u ho+n.

LDDDD: Ta^.p Bo'ng Chu+~ la` ta^.p thu+' ma^'y cu?a anh ddu+o+.c in?

LE^ DDA.T: DDo' la` ta^.p thu+' ba\.

LDDDD: The^' co`n tru+o+'c ddo' la` nhu+~ng ta^.p na`o\?

LE^ DDA.T: Lu'c mo+'i ve^` la.i Ha` No^.i na(m 1956, co' ta^.p The^' Gio+'i
Na`y La` Cu?a Chu'ng Ta (ta^.p a^'y co`n "lo^m co^m" la('m), lu'c ddo'
mang dda^`y nhu+~ng ca'i a?o tu+o+?ng cu?a tuo^?i tre?. Sau ddo' to^i in
mo^.t ta^.p nu+~a, ba('t dda^`u co' nhu+~ng ti`m to`i ve^` hi`nh thu+'c 
ro^`i -- "hi`nh thu+'c" la` mo^.t ca'ch no'i tho^i, trong tho+ hi`nh thu+'c 
cu~ng la` no^.i dung ro^`i\. DDo' la` ta^.p Ba`i Tho+ Tre^n Ghe^' DDa'. 
Sau ddo' to^i co' in chung vo+'i anh Hoa`ng Ca^`m, Tra^`n Da^`n va` Va(n 
Cao mo^.t ta^.p ga^y nhie^`u tie^'ng vang la` ta^.p Cu+?a Bie^?n.

LDDDD: Nghe no'i sau Bo'ng Chu+~, anh la.i khai pha' mo^.t loa.i tho+
chi? co' hai ca^u tho^i, xin anh no'i the^m ve^` ddie^`u na`y\.

LE^ DDA.T: Trong mo^.t buo^?i no'i chuye^.n nga('n ngu?i nhu+ the^' na`y,
to^i chi? co' the^? no'i to'm ta('t so+ lu+o+.c tho^i\. Ne^'u co' gi` kho^ng
pha?i, cu~ng mong ca'c bu+.c thu+'c gia? bo? qua' cho\.

Khoa ho.c nga`y ca`ng ddi va`o khuynh hu+o+'ng vi mo^, nhu+ng vi mo^
ca^`n pha?i co' nhu+~ng ma.ch to^?ng ho+.p thi` mo+'i vi mo^ ddu+o+.c. To^i
tha^'y tho+ cu~ng pha?i vi mo^ va` nhu+ the^' mo^~i chu+~ la` mo^.t ma.ch
to^?ng ho+.p chu+' kho^ng pha?i la` ma.ch ddie^.n tu+? thu+o+`ng thu+o+`ng 
nhu+ nga`y xu+a nu+~a\. To^i co' ddo.c tho+ hai ca^u, haiku cu?a Nha^.t Ba?n,
to^i ra^'t thi'ch tho+ loa.i tho+ na`y, dda(.c bie^.t la` o^ng Ba So^,
nhu+ng khi ddo.c tho+ Haiku mi`nh pha?i o+? trong mo^.t ta^m thu+'c dda(.c
bie^.t ro^`i, ddu+o+.c chua^?n bi. ro^`i, thi` mo+'i co' the^? hie^?u, 
tie^'p thu ddu+o+.c tho+ hai ca^u\. Co`n trong ta^m the^' bi`nh thu+o+`ng, 
nhie^`u ngu+o+`i ddo.c tho+ haiku cha(?ng tha^'y no'i le^n ca'i gi` ca?. 
To^i la.i nghi~ dde^'n tho+ tu+' tuye^.t cu?a tho+ DDu+o+`ng, trong bo^'n 
ca^u tu+' tuye^.t ddo' thu+o+`ng ngu+o+`i ta chi? nho+' co' hai ca^u tho^i, 
chi? co' hai ca^u no^?i ba^.t le^n so vo+'i hai ca^u kia, ne^n to^i mo+'i 
nghi~ ta.i sao mi`nh la.i kho^ng la`m chi? hai ca^u tho^i, ca^`n gi` the^m
tha('t cho me^.t!

LDDDD: Nhu+ va^.y pha?i ra^'t co^ ddo.ng.

LE^ DDA.T: Cu~ng cha(?ng bie^'t co' co^ ddo.ng ddu+o+.c nhie^`u kho^ng, 
nhu+ng to^i nghi~ nhu+ the^'. To^i co`n nghi~ ne^'u hai ca^u ma` vie^'t 
la` co+` a^u ca^u thi` ngu+o+`i ta la.i nha^`m chi? co' hai do`ng tho^i, 
vi` the^' to^i mo+'i dda(.t hai ca^u vie^'t ca a^u ka^u\...

LDDDD: Mo^.t ca'ch cho+i chu+~!

LE^ DDA.T: Cu~ng cha(?ng hie^?u co' pha?i cho+i chu+~ hay kho^ng, va^'n 
dde^` la` no' pha?i kha'c, kho^ng pha?i chi? hai ca^u, so^' lu+o+.ng kho^ng
pha?i la` hai do`ng, va` no' mang mo^.t ti'nh cha^'t kha'c ha(?n ddi\. Ma`
bie^'t dda^u no' cha(?ng co' ho. ha`ng vo+'i tho+ haiku!

LDDDD: DDa(.ng Tie^'n co' tri'ch mo^.t ba`i cu?a anh co' hai ca^u la` 
Na('ng ta.nh heo ma`y hoa la.nh, Mimosa chie^`u khe'p ca'nh mi mo^i xa,
co' pha?i ddo' la` mo^.t ba`i hai ca^u kho^ng?

LE^ DDA.T: DDa^'y la` hai ca^u\.

LDDDD: To^i ddo.c co' the^? nga('t ca^u kho^ng ddu'ng. Xin anh ddo.c la.i
dde^? xem anh nga('t ca^u ra sao\.

LE^ DDA.T: Na('ng ta.nh, heo ma`y, hoa la.nh

Mimosa chie^`u, khe'p ca'nh mi mo^i xa

Hi`nh nhu+ te^n hoa mimosa ddo' do "mi mo^i xa" ma` ra\. Thu+o+`ng
thu+o+`ng khi dda(.t mo^.t te^n thi` cu~ng kho' bie^'t ly' do ta.i sao
ngu+o+`i ta la.i dda(.t te^n ddo'. Rie^ng vo+'i to^i (co' le~ to^i ho+i 
la^?m ca^?m cha(ng), co' le~ ta.i vi` hai ngu+o+`i ye^u nhau ma` xa qua',
pha?i\... mi mo^i xa, ro^`i ngu+o+`i ta dda(.t la` mimosa\.

LDDDD: Anh co' the^? ddo.c cho nghe va`i ba`i thuo^.c loa.i na`y cha(ng?

LE^ DDA.T: To^i se~ ddo.c nhu+ng xin kho^ng gia?i thi'ch, dde^? ngu+o+`i
nghe go'p y' sau thi` to^'t ho+n. Nha` tho+ thi` kho^ng bao gio+` gia?i
thi'ch ve^` tho+ cu?a mi`nh, chi? ra^'t mong co' su+. co^.ng ta'c cu?a
thi'nh gia? va` ddo^.c gia?.

Forget Me Not (te^n mo^.t loa.i hoa, o+? Vie^.t Nam go.i la` hoa lu+u
ly)

Lo`ng hoa chu+a que^n, ti`nh em dda~ vo^.i,

Lu+u ly lo+`i, go.i tim lo^i chia ly

Chi`m No^?i

DDa^'t lo+?, dda' mo`n, mo^.t hai chi`m no^?i

The^`, bo^`i lo+`i ca't lo^~i, pha?i la^`m so^ng

Chim Go~ Mo~

Tim la(.ng la.nh, go^'c bo^` dde^` mu+a cu~

Chim go~ mo~ kie^'p xu+a chu+a he^'t giu~ lu.y ti`nh

Chung Ti`nh

Ti`nh lo+~ he'o ro^`i ma` hoa ro^. no+?

Hu+o+ng dda mang xua^n kho^'n kho^? chung ti`nh

Ma'y Nha('n Tin

Ma'y nha('n chim tin ti`m me^ lo^. pho^'

Lo`ng kha't ti`nh tim ddo^?i so^' la(.ng thinh

Ta`u Nhanh

Xua^n ba('t dda^`u ta`u nhanh xanh thu+'c ngu?

Ti`nh ta(ng bo toa ddo^~ ddoa.t ba.c dda^`u

So^' Ti`nh

Na('ng bay chuye^`n chim dda^`u da^y ddie^.n thoa.i

So^' ti`nh a lo^ ma~i go.i ddo^i xua^n

Hoa Ba(`ng La(ng

A'o gio' ddo^?i ca^y dda^`y ma^y la.c pho^'

Ba(`ng, la(ng, thu+ hoa lo^. tim tin gi`

Kha'c Tuo^?i

Tho+`i hoa ke^. bie^n pho`ng xua^n cho^'t ca't

Tuo^?i kha'c quo^'c gia ddo^`ng the^' he^. ti`nh

Anh tha^'y sao\?

LDDDD: Thu+a anh thoa.t nghe thi` dda~ tha^'y la` mo^.t loa.i tho+ la.
ro^`i\. Nhu+~ng ca'ch du`ng chu+~ ke^'t ca^u cu?a anh cu~ng la. nu+~a\.
Tha`nh ra dde^? tri`nh vo+'i quy' thi'nh gia? cu?a mie^`n Nam Cali va`
qua he^. tho^'ng Internet cu?a dda`i VNCR dde^? thu+o+?ng thu+'c tho+ mo+'i
na`y cu?a anh. Pha?n u+'ng tu+` ca'c no+i ne^'u co' chu'ng to^i se~ la.i
lie^n la.c vo+'i anh tho^ng ba'o anh bie^'t, dde^? ta.o su+. giao ca?m
giu+~a ngu+o+`i sa'ng ta'c va` ngu+o+`i thu+o+?ng ngoa.n.

LE^ DDA.T: To^i kho^ng mong gi` ho+n the^'. Chu'ng ta ne^n trao ddo^?i
vo+'i nhau nhie^`u ho+n. Phu+o+ng tie^.n tho^ng tin ba^y gio+` tie^.n lo+.i
la('m, chu'ng ta kho^ng lo+.i du.ng dde^? tho^ng tin vo+'i nhau thi`
tha^.t phi' qua'.