Re: Flamenco in Carmen

[Minh Dang <dang@par.univie.ac.at>]

Hallo ba'c Thanh va\ ba'c Hung!

He` na`y to^i ddi.nh ddi cho+i kie^?u "du li.ch ba lo^" o+? Spain va`
Marocco tu+` 4 dde^'n 5 tua^`n ne^n hie^.n ta.i ddang ti`ch cu+.c ddo.c
sa'ch ve^` ca'c nu+o+'c na`y. Tha^'y ca'c ba'c no'i chuye^.n ve^\ Flamenco
cu~ng muo^'n ddo'ng go'p ma^'y ddie^`u vu+`a mo+'i ddo.c ddu+o+.c, chu+' 
tru+o+'c dda^y thi` cu~ng mu` ti.t.

Que^ hu+o+ng cu?a Flamenco la` vu`ng Adalousie o+? phi'a nam Spain (gia'p
Portugal va` bie^?n Ddi.a Trung Ha?i cho^~ ga^`n Marocco) chu+' kho^ng
pha?i phi'a Ba('c nhu+ ba'c Hung no'i. Co' the^? no'i pha^`n lo+'n nhu+~ng
ca'i dda(.c tru+ng cu?a Spain dde^`u xua^'t xu+' tu+` vu`ng na`y, tu+`
Flamenco, dda^'u bo` dde^'n nhu+~ng nha^n va^.t va(n ho.c no^?i tie^'ng
nhu+ Carmen, Figaro.

Thu?y to^? cu?a Flamenco la` nhu+~ng ddie^.u nha?y cu?a ngu+o+`i di-gan
(gypsy) so^'ng ra^'t nhie^`u o+? vu`ng na`y. Ddu'ng nhu+ ba'c Hung no'i,
Flamanco co' ra^'t nhie^`u ne't chung vo+'i mu'a bu.ng cu?a Arab.
Ddie^`u na`y kho^ng co' gi` la` la. vi` vu`ng Andalousie bi. ngu+o+`i 
Arab chie^'m ddo'ng mo^.t tho+`i gian ra^'t da`i. Nhu+ va^.y Flamenco
la` mo^.t su+. la.i ta.o giu+~a ca'c ddie^.u nha?y va` nha.c cu?a Gypsy
va` Arab. Cho dde^'n giu+~a the^' ky? 18, khi ngu+o+`i Spain cu~ng cho+i
nha.c na`y thi` Flamenco mo+'i bi. "ta^y ho'a" va` tro+? tha`nh mo^.t Music
style nhu+ ba^y gio+`.

Ddu'ng nhu+ ba'c Thanh no'i, vo+? Carmen cu?a Bizet chi? co' mo^.t va`i
cho^~ co' ti'nh ca'ch Flamenco. Nhu+ng dda^y la` mo^.t vo+? Opera ne^n
kho^ng co' cho^~ na`o la` hoa`n toa`n nha.c Flamenco. Nha^n tie^.n no'i
the^m: bi`nh thu+o+`ng to^i kho^ng chi.u ddu+o+.c nha.c Opera nhu+ng
vo+? Carmen na`y thi` la` my absolute favourite.

Cheers,

minh.

>> 
> > Ca?m o+n ba'c Thanh dda~ gio+'i thie^.u version phim truye^.n. Tui xin ho?i
> > 1 ca^u nhe': carmen la` co^ ga'i bohemienne, nhu+ng ddie^.u nha?y
> > trong phim la` ddie^.u flamenco phai kho^ng? Tui kho^ng biet dda^u,
> > bo+?i vi` tui nho+' trong vo+? carmen co' 1 ddoa.n "danse boheme".
> > Va^.y trong vo+? carmen co' ddie^.u flamenco kho^ng?
> ..... 

> Back to Carmen again. Bizet's Carmen was originally written as an opera,
> so I really doubt that one can watch flamenco, or whatever dances in 
> the theatrical performance of "Carmen". I think the "Bohemian Dance"
> was simply entitled so to characterize the boldness and wildness of
> Carmen who is a young Gypsy queen in the story. Flamenco is a Latin
> dance.
> 
> > Nha^n tie^.n, bu+~a truoc tui no'i lie^`u: flamenco chi? copy 1 pha^`n
> > ddie^.u mu'a bu.ng, go^'c va^~n la` vu`ng Adalousie (sp?) phi'a ba('c TBN.
> 
> I really don't see much influence of the arabic "belly dance" on flamenco.
> But I might be wrong. Again, I cannot suggest anything about flamenco
> other than the movie by Carlos Saura. I highly recommend it, since it's
> *not* simply an usual adaptation of "Carmen", but about the making of
> "Carmen", the parallel situation of a love triangle between what happens
> in real life and the story itself (the choreographer falls in love with the
> young dancer who plays Carmen, and at the end kills her out of his
> uncontrollable obsession, exactly the way it goes in the opera). There are
> uncountable beautiful dance shots in this movie which were arranged for 
flamenco.
> 
......