Re: Nhi`n mo^.t phi'a.

[Phan Thanh Lam <phtl@freenet.tlh.fl.us>]

Hi,

I am not sure that I fully understood your statement below.  Please 
elaborate.  What sort of danger would China be in when the "Nationalist 
ideology" (Nationalism ?) is replacing "the Communist ideology" ?  Or 
this term "danger" as used here applied to China's neighboring countries?

On Thu, 12 Jun 1997, Sonnet Nguyen wrote:

> China is totalitar country, which was isolated for a long time with the
> world's outside.  The dangerous fact is in China the Communist's ideology 
> is being replayed by the Nationalist's ideology.   Nowaday, we can denote
> the decrease of the influence of Chinese Commu. Party on China.   From day


> They have too little (and usually not true!) informations, because the
> main source of informations for them is ... the Chinese propagands!!!  
> The main difference between the Chineses and the Vietnameses (in this
> area) is that Chineses believe on Chinese propagands and VN-ses do not
> (or at least with a reserve).


I am not sure how you would derive at this conclusion, that the Chinese 
believe in propaganda and the Vietnamese do not.  I have heard 
numerous stories about how the Vietnamese living North of the 17 
parallel did not know anything about the living condition of the 
people in the south.  Did that not come from effective propaganda?  

>From my own  observation, the Vietnamese characters are not that 
different from the Chinese.  Furthermore, the dislike we have for them 
are quite mutual.  We  don't think much of them, and they don't think 
much of us.  But let's  look on the serious side and notice that whatever 
mistakes and  achievement they have, we imitated them so well.  
Just look in the past fifty, sixty years or so to date. (Mr. Nguye^~n Ngo.c 
Linh has written a very detailed article on this subject.  If you are 
interested, I'll dig it up for you.)

I have heard numerous discussions about studying the economic models of 
Taiwan, 
Singapore, South Korea, etc... for potential applications to VN but no 
one has even mentioned the Mainland China's model.  However, the Vietnamese 
economic development in the last twenty years follow the Chinese model 
almost 
to the letter, and sharing almost the same problems, from investment, 
heavy and burdensome bureaucracy, lack of laws and regulations, abuse of 
state own enterprises, business conducted by the army and the police... 
the promise of doubling effort to fight corruption... You name it, they 
got it, we got it.  The  thing that troubles me are that 
since we follow them, we should be able to learn from them and avoid their 
mistakes, but we did not.  Or perhaps what I view as a mistake can be 
though of as achievement by people in power.

> Probably, this statement is true for almost Chineses.  The paradox is many
> Chinese working scientists are usually very good or competent on what they
> do, but their imagine (about everything) is so primitive and subjective.    
> 
> SN

I wonder if the Chinese may be saying the exact same thing about the 
Vietnamese.  

Sincerely,

Phan Thanh La^m