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Re: DDMT, TMH vo+'i Hoa`ng Ca^`m.

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Subject: Re: DDMT, TMH vo+'i Hoa`ng Ca^`m.
From: "Hoang Khoa Quyen" <quyenkhoa@hotmail.com>
Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1999 02:25:04 ICT
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Hi anh Ai Viet va ca? la`ng !

Ba`i na`y vo+' va^?n qua' kho^ng dda'ng vie^'t ba`i rie^ng dde^? tra? lo+`i, 
nhu+ng xem ra anh AV co' ve? dda('c y' la('m, ne^n la.i pha?i
lo^i co^? no' ra, xa'ch tai kha'm be^.nh cho ca'i tu+ duy no^ng da^n tra' 
hi`nh na`y.


>    Sau dda^y la` ca'c y' kie^'n cu?a to^i ve^` nho'm tu+ lie^.u hoa`n
>chi?nh thu+' nha^'t cu?a anh HKQ.
>No' hoa`n chi?nh vi` to^i dda~ ddo.c tho+ HC ( va` ra^'t thi'ch o^ng
>na`y), ba`i phe^ bi`nh cu?a TMH va` y' kie^'n cu?a anh DDMT.
>
>    Nhu+ the^' la` trong gio+'i ha.n dde^` ta`i na`y to^i co' the^?
>kie^?m tra ly' le~ va` phong ca'ch cu?a hai be^n.

Thu+.c ra ba`i vie^'t du+o+'i dda^y cu?a AV ddo^'i chie^'u mo^? co`hai ba`i 
vie^'t cu?a DMT va` TMH vo+'i ba`i vie^'t thu+' ba cu?a AV, dda^u pha?i 
ddo^'i chie^'u vo+'i tho+ Hoa`ng Ca^`m.Ba`i vie^'t cu?a DDMT la`no'i ve^` 
Ke? lu.c soa't dde^`n tho+,no'i ve^` TMH, trong ddo'tho+ HC no'i chung va` 
ti`nh du.c trong tho+ HC no'i rie^ng chi? la` mo^.t ca'i co+', mo^.t ca'i 
cu+?a ddi va`o tha`nh qua'ch cu?a ddao phu? TMH.
AV kho^ng nhi`n ra tu+o+ng quan phu+'c ho+.p gu+o+ng trong gu+o+ng, ddo^'i 
sa'nh che'o phu+'c ho+.p cu?a he^. va^'n dde^`:
1- va(n ba?n-ca'ch do.c,
2- ca'ch ddo.c- ca'ch ddo.c,
3- sie^u va(n ba?n- va(n ba?n;
4- sie^u va(n ba?n-ca'ch ddo.c;
5- va(n hoa'-va(n ba?n;
6- va(n hoa'-ca'ch ddo.c
7- va(n hoa'- sie^u va(n ba?n
8- va(n hoa'-va(n hoa'

ma`chi? ch'ui mu~i va`o va^'n dde^` ti`nh du.c la` va^'n de^`phu.,be^` 
ngoa`i.Khi gia?i quye^'t va^'n dde^` co?n con,be^` no^?i na`y cu~ng la.i 
thie^'u mo^.t ca'i nhi`n so sa'nh va(n ho'a, tro+? tha`nh ddie^'c kho^ng 
so+. su'ng, ddo^.c thoa.i a'p dda(.t va(n hoa' ti`nh du.c, ddo^`ng nha^'t 
ti`nh du.c trong ddo+`i vo+'i ti`nh du.c trong tho+.Ca'ch hie^?u va(n ba?n, 
ca'ch xa'c ddi.nh toa. ddo^. va^'n dde^` dda` kho^ng sa.ch nu+o+'c ca?n nhu+ 
va^.y thi`ddu? tha^'y kha? na(ng ddo^'i thoa.i la` kho^ng co'.
Trong ca'ch tri`nh ba`y va^'n dde^, gi?ai ma~ tu+ duy, AV to? ra thie^'u 
hie^?u bie^'t ve^` tri' tue^ ho.c ( noologic)la`mo^n ho.c co' kha? na(ng 
ca('t nghi~a nhu+~ng ca(n nguye^n va` nhu+~ng ddie^`u kie^.n va(n hoa'cu?a 
su+. hi`nh tha`nh chuo^~i tu+ tu+o+?ng, ta.o tha`nh mo^.t he^. tho^'ng tu+. 
pho`ng thu?, tu+. Žie^`u chi?nh, tu+. truye^`n ba', tu+. nha^n le^n .( Xem 
Edga Morin-Scieuce avec Conscieu-
Fayard-1982.)Ba`i vu+`a la.c dde^` vu+` co^'kie^~ng cha^n vo+'i to+'i 
nhu+~ng va^'n dde^` cao qua',y nhu+ tre? con kie^~ng cha^n le^n co^' nhi`n 
qua bu+'c tu+o+`ng cao.

To^i se~ kho^ng ghe'p
>anh HKQ va`o dda^y vi` ly' do dde^? pha^n ti'ch co' the^? kha'ch quan
>va` kho?i e'p buo^.c anh co' nhu+~ng y' nghi~ hoa(.c ddo^.ng co+ chu?
>quan hay gia? thie^'t anh HKQ la` DDMT mo^.t ca'ch "dde^ tie^.n" :-))

Anh AV va^~n hay co'ca'i tro` ha. tha^'p ddo^'i tu+o+.ng tranh lua^.n ba(`ng 
ta^m ly' ho.c cho+i chu+~. To^i no'i DDMT la` ho.c tro` to^i, anh dda(.t ra 
gia? thie^'t HKQ la` DDMT dde^? le'n ha. be^. to^i, ngu. y' ra(`ng to^i chi? 
ngang ta^`m ho.c tro`. Che^' gie^~u nhu+ the^' la`kho^ng dda`ng hoa`ng. Sao 
anh kho^ng ba'm va`o cac y' cu?a to^i dde^? che^' gie^~u, ma` cu+' hay do`m 
ngo' cho.c ngoa'y, khai tha'c nhu+~ng quan he^. cu?a to^i nhu+ va^.y. DDo' 
la` tha'i ddo^.ngoa`i ho.c thua^.t, pha?n ho.c thua^.t.
Nha^n dda^y xin no'i ro~ mo^.t ddie^`u . .To^i co' no'i DDMT la` ho.c tro` 
to^i, ddie^`u ddo' kho^ng he^` bi.a dda(.t ra oai, khoe khoang, nhu+ng chu+a 
ddu? chi tie^'t ne^n la`m DDMT kho^ng ha`i lo`ng va` mo^.t so^' ngu+o+`i 
hie^?u la^`m.Le~ ra to^i ne^n no'i DDMT la` ho.c tro` to^i trong li~nh vu+.c 
khoa ho.c tha^`n bi' va`ngoa.i ngu+~ vi` to^i chi? da.y anh ta Tie^'ng Anh 
va` mo^.t so^' mo^n kha'c nhu+ Nha^m Ca^`m DDo^.n Toa'n, Phong Thuy? 
v.v.tu+` nhu+~ng na(m 1970.Ve^` va(n ho.c va` cac mo^n nghe^. thua^.t kha'c 
to^i kho^ng da.y ddu+o+.c gi` cho DDMT , tra'i la.i co`n bi. va`i a?nh 
hu+o+?ng,( nho? tho^i) nhu+ng DDMT va^~n coi to^i la` tha^`y vi` anh na`y ai 
da.y mo^.t i't gi` cu~ng phong ngu+o+`i ta la` tha^`y ( cho^~ na`y ho+i bi. 
ca?i lu+o+ng dda^'y).Go.i ngu+o=`i ta la` tha^`y, dde^'n khi bie^'t ngu+o+`i 
ta xu+ng  la` tha^`y mi`nh tre^n VNSA thi` la.i kho^ng ha`i lo`ng.Tha^.t 
phu+'c ta.p.

>    To^i se~ co^' ga('ng nga('n go.n dde^? focus va`o nhu+~ng ddie^?m
>chi'nh va` kho^ng rely o+? ca?m ti'nh cu?a mi`nh, ma(.c du` co' ra^'t
>nhie^`u ddie^?m kha'c co' the^? trao ddo^?i the^m. Kha'c vo+'i anh HKQ
>to^i se~ pha^n ti'ch ca? nhu+~ng quan ddie^?m to^i kha'c vo+'i anh TMH
>( ddo' la` kha'c nhau co+ ba?n giu+~a ca'ch tie^'p ca^.n cu?a to^i va`
>anh HKQ)

Pha^n ti'ch gi` dda^u, no'i huye^n thuye^n nhu+~ng y' chu? quan, nhu+~ng 
ke^'t lua^.n a'p dda(.t co' the^? u.p va`o ai cu~ng ddu+o+.c.

>=========================
>
>  "YE^'U TO^' TI`NH DU.C TRONG THO+ HC VA` TRANH LUA^.N GIU+~A TMH VA`
>DDMT"
>
>   Tu+.u trung tranh lua^.n cu?a DDMT vo+'i TMH la` quay quanh ca'i
>tru.c "ye^'u to^' ti`nh du.c" trong tho+ Hoa`ng Ca^`m. Theo anh trong
>tho+ HC kho^ng co' "ye^'u to^' ti`nh du.c". Ddie^?m che^ tho+ HC duy
>nha^'t cu?a TMH la` mu+'c ddo^. ti`nh du.c "qua' mu+'c" trong tho+ HC.
>Nhu+ va^.y ne^'u ta xe't va^'n dde^` mo^.t ca'ch sa'ng suo^'t va` duy
>ly' va` ta.m ga'c ra nhu+~ng no^.i dung ( co' the^? la` chi'nh) cu?a
>cuo^.c tie^u thu. "gia^'y mu+.c" na`y nhu+ a^n oa'n ca' nha^n, ddo^.ng
>co+ tru.c lo+.i cu?a ca'c ta'c gia? ma` ta se~ ta.m ga'c la.i vi` kho'
>co' the^? kie^?m tra gi` ngoa`i tra^.n mu+a "bu`n".
>
>    Va^.y ta se~ ba`n hai va^'n dde^`: 1) Co' ye^'u to^' ti`nh du.c
>trong tho+ HC hay kho^ng. 2) Ye^'u to^' ti`nh du.c cha^'p nha^.n trong
>VHVN ddu+o+.c kho^ng. To^i cho ra(`ng tra? lo+`i xong hai ca^u ho?i
>na`y thi` qua' nu+?a ba`i ba'o
>cu?a TMH va` ga^`n he^'t ba`i ba'o cu?a DMT se~ kho^ng co`n issue na`o
>tru+` phi ho. muo^'n "dda'nh nhau" dde^? ngu+o+`i la`m TT ke? la`m
>pho', tha^y ke^. tho+ HC muo^'n hay do+? ra sao :-))

DDo.c dde^'n dda^y la` bie^'t ta^`m nhi`n nha^.n la.c dde^` va` ga~i ghe? 
be^n ngoa`i ro^i` tha^`y AV o+i.Chi,u kho' ddo.c the^m sa'ch ma` tra? lo+`i 
ddi chu+'.Go.i ddie^.n ve^` VN ma` nho+` MQL, TMH co^' va^'n cho va`i y' 
chu+'!Ba` con so^'t ruo^.t la('m ro^`i. Trong lu'c anh ddo va'n thi` 
ngu+o+`i ta dda` mo+? xong phie^n cho+. mua ba'n sa'ch Co hoi cu?a Chu'a va` 
ao' pho^ng VNSA ro^`i.

Cheers,

Hoa`ng Khoa Quye^`n

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