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Re: TMH va` Sokal (Re: Sokal va` TMH Re: DDoa.t gu+o+m Kopa'ny (2))



Ba´c LTA,

>   Ta.i sao TMH 100% du+.a va`o 4000 na(m va(n hie^'n la.i xa^'u? OK qua' ddi 
> chu+'! Chu'ng ta ddang cho^'ng ca'i kho^ng fair o+? cho^~ du+.a va`o chi'nh 
> quye^`n + tu+ lo+.i co+ ma`.

Che^´t, ba´c no´i the^´ na`y thi` la.i unfair cho chi´nh quye^`n va` tu+
lo+.i qua´. Chi´nh quye^`n to^´t chu+´, tu+ lo+.i cu~ng hay. Nhu+ng va^´n
dde^` la` ddu+`ng la.m du.ng. La.m du.ng la` unfair. Tuo+ng tu+. vo+´i
unfair/la.m du.ng trong xa~ ho^.i la` banana logic/vuo+.t bie^n trong ly´
lua^.n khoa ho.c.

> ho.c va` ta`i na(ng ta'c gia?. Ta.i sao pha?i du`ng dde^'n "cho+i kha('m", 
> ne^'u theo nghi~a dden?

Ba´c pha?i ho?i o^ng Sokal. Tui thi` kho^ng la`m nhu+ va^.y, vi` no´
kh^ong ho+.p vo+´i quan die^?m ri^ng cu?a tui ve^` dda.o ddu+´c. Tuy
nhie^n tui to^n tro.ng quan ddie^?m rie^ngve^` dda.o ddu+´c cu?a o^ng
Sokal. To^n tro.ng nhu+ng kho^ng co´ nghji~a la` ddo^`ng y´. DDo^`ng y´
kh^ong co´ nghi~a la` hoa`n toa`n ddo^`ng y´, nhie^`u khi chi? do^`ng y´
mo^.t pha^`n, trong mo^.t ddie^`u kie^.n nha^´t ddi.nh.


>    Ba'c tha^'y mo^.t be^n "ba?o la~nh cho ba` vo+. VK Pha'p", mo^.t be^n 
> "gio+'i thie^.u cho bao nhie^u u?y vie^n TW DDa?ng" co' ra the^? tho^'ng gi` 
> kho^ng? Kho^ng tra'ch da^n chu'ng nghi~ dde^'n ca'nh nha` va(n nha` ba'o 
> vo+'i joke "nha` cao ta^`ng kho^ng ca^`n toilet".

Chuye.^n na`y ba´c pha?i ho?i o^ng TMH va` DMT. Tui ra^´t ky. nha^.n xe´t
ve^` dda.o du+´c tu+ ca´ch nguo+`i kha´c. Ve^` chuye^.n cu+ xu+? trong
xa~ ho^.i to^i chi? no´i chuye.^n chu+´c na(ng cu?a mo^.t ha`nh ddo^.ng
trong mo^.t context xa~ ho^.i na`o ddo´. Vi´ du. tui cho mi`nh co´ quye^`n
nha^.n xe´t mo^.t ha`nh ddo^.ng na`o ddo´ la` fair hay unfair, tu+´c la`
tui chi? ddu+a ra statement ve^` mo^´i quan he^. giu~a ca´c ha`nh ddo^.ng
trong xa~ ho^.i. Kho^ng bao gio+` tui ddu+a ra mo^.t statement na`o ve^`
ba?n cha^´t cu?a mo^.t ha`nh ddo^.ng hay mo^.t con nguo+`i. Tu+ ca´ch
dda.o ddu+´c cu?a nguo+`i kha´c kh^ong pha?i chuy.e^n dde^? tui ddem ra
ba`n lua^.n.


>    Mo^.t khi bi. e'p kho^ng co`n ddu+o+`ng na`o kha'c, mo+'i pha?i du`ng 
> dde^'n "hoax". Ta.i sao thay vi` nghie^n cu+'u CHCC, thuye^'t phu.c ca'i hay 
> cu?a no' cho nhu+~ng ai chu+a hie^?u, la.i ta^.p trung du`ng ca'c dda? ki'ch 
> ca' nha^n va`o tranh lua^.n va(n ho.c. Kho^ng the^? du`ng ca'i negative 
> dda'nh tra? ca'i negative kha'c, nha^'t la` dda'nh le'n le^.ch ddi. Chu+a 
> ro~ ai chu.p mu~ ai dda^u-:)

A` te´ ra ba´c du`ng tui la`m ga` trong ca^u "gie^´t ga` do.a khi?" :-)))


>    He he, a^'y la` to^i no'i va^.y chu+' kho^ng pha?i va^.y dda^u nhe', ba'c 
> La^m cho+' ca'u-:)

Tui ca´u la`m sao dduo+.c. Ca´c ba´c bie^´t ti´nh tui qua´ muh! Tui lu´c 
na`o cu~ng assume la` ca´c ba´c co´ thie.^n chi´ vo+´i tui. Khi ddo´
ca´c ba´c chu+?i tui thi` cu~ng la` dde^? tui tie^´n bo^. chu+´ sao.
Co`n anh na`o ma` tui assume la` bo^´ la´o thi` tui cha? the`m dde^? ta^m
dde^´n nu+~a la` xong. Tren ddo+`i thie^´u gi` nguo+`i, ai ho+i
dda^u ba^.n ta^m pha?i kh^ong ca´c ba´c. A` na`y ba´c AT, tui pha^n ti´ch
ca^u "No´i va^.y chu+´ kho^ng pha?i va^.y" dde^? tha^´y ca´i logic cu?a
no´ nhe´. (Tui hay ddu`a nghi.ch tre^n na`y nhu+ng la` dde^? cho vui
tuo+i, tui kh^ong muo^´n take seriously nhie^`u qua´, me^.t la(´m. Ti´nh
tui hay ddu`a nghi.ch kho^ng co´ nghi~a la` tui chi? dduo+.c ca´i la´o
le^´u, no´i na(ng phi logic dda^u dda^´y nhe´. Nguo+.c la.i la` kha´c,
tui ra^´t tro.ng logic. Vo+´i tui ca´i gi` cu~ng pha?i co´ logic cu?a
no´. Co´ the^? tui chu+a ti`m ra nhu+ng nha^´t ddi.nh pha?i co´. Co´ le~ 
dda^y la` ca´i conviction cu?a tui ve^` vu~ tru.).

Trong ca^u ddo´ hai chu+~ "va^.y" kha´c nhau chu+´ kh^ong gio^´ng nhau.
Ne^´u hai chu+~ "va^.y" trong ca^u ddo´ gio^´ng nhau thi` ca^u phi logic,
vo^ nghi~a, ne^n va^´t va`o so.t ra´c chu+´ kho^ng ne^n du`ng.

Chu+~ "va^.y" trong "no´i va^.y" ngu. y´ "y´ tui no´i nhu+ va^.y".
Chu+~ "va^.y" thu+´ hai ngu. y´ "y´ ba´c nghi~ nhu+ va^.y". Ca^u ddo´ co´
ngi~a la` "y´ tui no´i kho^ng pha?i nhu+ ba´c nghi~ dda^u".

Have a nice weekend.

:-) L^m

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