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Re: to: ba'c DX,TP & HKQ
Hello ba'c HKQ,
Bac' vie^'t:
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Hello ba'c PVV
Ba'c la` ngu+o+`i co' va`i message to^i lu+u dde^? ddo.c la.i va` nghi~
the^m, ne^n khi tha^'y ba'c co' y' kie^'n to^i pha?i ddo.c ma` kho^ng xoa'
ngay nhu+ messages cu?a mo^.t so^' ngu+o+`i kha'c.DDo.c thi` pha?i dda'p
le^~, co' gi` chu+a ddu'ng mong ba'c co+?i mo+? trao ddo^?i la.i ba(`ng
tie^'ng VIe^.t "
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Ca'm o+n ba'c dda~ nu+o+ng tay...:-). B'ac 0^no'i thi\ to^i cu~ng co^'
ga('ng du\ng tie^'ng Vie^.t dde^? die^~ n ta? ~ y' nghi~ cu?a to^i !~
cha('c cha('n pha?i co' nhie^\u so+ so't mong ba'c bo? qua cho .
"-----------------
>1){ Bo? thi\ tie^'c, nhu+ng ma\ cu+' ddo.c ca'i lua^.n ddie^.u
khoa'c la'c,
~ bie^.n chu+'ng re? tie^\n, ~ hu\ng bie^.n cho+. bu'a gian ho^\ va\ ca'i
"va(n bu't" tho^?i pho^\ng chu.p mu~ kie^?u na\y thi\ cha'n che^'t...}
Ba'c no'i kho+i kho+i the^' na`y thi` kho^ng bie^'t no'i ai, tha`nh ra
nhu+ chu+?i ddo^?ng, ngu+o+`i na`o cu~ng nghi` la` kho^ng no'i ve^` mi`nh.
Ho+n nu+~a kho^ng co' da^~n chu+'ng pha^n ti'ch thi` la`m sao giup ddu+o+.c
ngu+o+`i kha'c tie^n bo^. ho+? ba'c.Ngu+o+`i ta cu`ng la.i ba?o la` bac
chu.p mu~ dda^'y.
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Ba'c du\ng ca'i tu+\ "chu+?i ddo^?ng" thi\ to^i tha^'y ho+i cho'i tai, to^i
tha^'y chu+~ "allegation" thi\ ddu'ng y' to^i ho+n -:)
To^i co' ca?m gia'c la\ ba'c no'i ddu'ng, khi ba'c no'i " ngu+o+`i na`o
cu~ng nghi` la` kho^ng no'i ve^` mi`nh." bba(\ng chu+'ng la\ 0^pha?i chi'nh
ba'c phu? nha^.n ca'i "allegation" tre^n ma\ cha(?ng co'
ai ho?i to^i the^m ve^\ no' sau khi to^i vie^'t:
PS: to^i hu+'a to^i se~ da^?n chu+'ng va\ gia?i thi'ch cho tu+\ng ngu+o+\i
mo^.t ve^\ ca'i allegation(1), ne^'u ca'c ba'c muo^'n thu+ rie^ng thi\ to^i
se~ co^' ga('ng "thu xe^'p tho+\i gian" dde^? tra? lo+\i cho ca'c ba'c.
Public ? Xin ca'c ba'c tha du\m cho ca'c cha'u /ngu+o+\i kha'c nho+\.:-)
To^i ca?m tha^'y vui vui khi ca'i allegation is false (0^ ddu'ng) o+? la\ng
VNSA -:)
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Tru+\ ba'c HKQ thi\ to^i tin ra(\ng ba'c TP va\ DX hie^?u ca'i nghi~a
"thu+.c" cua? ca'i tu+\ "shit" ma\ ba'c KP vie^'t nhu+ the^' na\o !.
To^i nghi~ ra(`ng va^'n dde^` Anh ngu+~ cu?a ba'c KP ma` co^ cha'u ga'i Sa`i
gon` dda(.t ra lo+'n ho+n, ro^.ng ho+n va` phu+'c ta.p ho+n ca'i tu+` Shit
na`y nhie^`u la('m. Sao ba'c la.i bo? ru+`ng nhi`n va`o ca^y the^ ? Co^
cha'u ga'i nga.o ma.n kia no'i ddu'ng hay sai ? DDo' la` ddie^`u nhu+~ng
ngu+o+`i nhu+ to^i muo^'n ddu+o.c cac bac chi? gia'o chu+' kho^ng pha?i
no^.i dung va` ti'nh cha^'t tu+` Shit hay dda.o ddu+'c cu?a co^ cha'u kia ,
ca`ng kho^ng pha?i la` va(n phong cu?a nhu+~ng ngu+o+`i co'tranh ca~i vo+'i
bac KP.
Ve^` tu+` Shit, to^i chi? bie^'t Tu+` ddie^?n Anh Vie^.t cu?a Vie^.n ngo^n
ngu+~ ho.c ( loa.i 93000 mu.c tu+` chi'nh va` 50.000 to^? ho+.p tu+`, tha`nh
ngu+~, tu.c ngu+~, qua'n ngu+~...)gia?i thi'ch da`to'm ta('t nhu+ sau :
Shit : 1. cha^'t tha?i cu?a ruo^.t, cu+'t, pha^n 2. Ia?, ddi ia? 3. ba^.y
ba., vo^ nghi~a, nhu+ cu+'t 4. Ke? dde^ tie^.n.
Kho^ng bie^'t co' gi` kha'c vo+'i ca'ch du`ng be^n My~ hay kho^ng.
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Ba'c ho?i thi\ to^xin thu+a:
Theo "the NTC's Dictionary of Anerican Slang ang colloquial expressions / by
Richard A.Spears"
thi\ ca^u thi' du. sau dda^y ddu'ng theo gia?i thi'ch tre^n:
a)" Don't step in that shit there, hay there's dog shit in my yard!"
Co\n ca^u thi' du/ gia?i thi'ch. sau dda^y thi\ du\ng theo the^? "slang"
0^ddu'ng vo+'i gia?i thic'ch o+? tre^n cu?a Vie^.n ngo^n ngu+~ ho.c (?)
theo to^i thi\ ddu'ng ta^m tra.ng cu?a ba'c KP:
b)"This stuff is shit. Show me something better / Shit = something poor in
quality"
To^i pha? thu' nha^.n ba'c du\ng chu+? ra^'t hay, to^i mo\ hoa\i ma\ kie^'m
0^ ra ca'i ca^u ba'c sa\i dde^? no'i le^n y' cu?a mi\nh " Sao ba'c la.i bo?
ru+`ng nhi`n va`o ca^y the^ ? " ba'c cho to^i mu+o+.n ca^u na\y 1 ti' nhe'!
Ddu'ng nhu+ ba'c no'i la\ to^i bo? ru+\ng dde^? nhi\ n va\o ca^y tha^.t
nhu+ng ca'i ru+\ng "sh.." na\y chi? co' hai ca^y co^? thu., 1ca^y co' te^n
la\ "negative= a)" va\ "positive=b)" la\ te^n cu?a ca^y thu+' hai.
To^i dda~ quay ma(.t ngo' cho^? kha'c khi ~ ca^y co^? thu. o+? mo^.t khu
ru+\ng kha'c "Vo~ dda\i tri' tue^." dda~ vo+'i ca'i lo^'i nhi\n "bo? ru+\ng
nhi\n ca^y" tranh nhau tu+\ng ly tu+\ng ty', bu+o+i xo+'i ~ ca^u va(n chu+a
he^'t y'/to^'i y' , chu.p giu+.t ~ co+ ho^.i re~ tie^\n dde^? ma.t xa't,
trie^.t ha. la^?n nhau 0^ngoa\i 1 mu.c ddi'ch duy nha^'t la\ dde^? "tho?a
ma~n ca'i to^i" cho chi'nh mi\nh .
Nay thi\ ru+\ng kia va('ng ddi 1 ca^y co^? thu. ma\ ca'i ca^y co^? thu. na\y
la\ no+i nu+o+ng tu+.a cho 1 so^' ma^\m non ddang vu+o+n le^n.. (co' the^?
KP la\ 1 trong ~ ma^\m non na\y -:))
Ba(\ng chu+'ng ? cha('c 0^ca^\n dda^u ba'c nhi? ?
Nhi\ n xuo^'ng ru+\ng VN tu+\ tre^n kho^ng thi\ cha('c ba'c cu~ng ddo^\ng y'
vo+'i to^i la\ VN mi\nh
trong lu'c na\y ca^\ n ha\ng loa.t ru+\ng kha'c nhau ma\ su+. nu+o+ng tu+.a
la^? n nhau dde^? so^'ng dde^? la\m cho ru+\ng VN the^m tu+o+i ma't, cu+'ng
ca't dde^? cho^'ng ddo+? vo+'i ha\ng loa.t ba~o to^' be^n ngoa\i ddang tre^n
ddu+o+\ng ddi to+'i .
Va\i ca? m nghi~ cu?a ke? xa que^hu+o+ng, 1 la^\ n nu+?a mong ba'c bo? qua ~
so+ so't 0^ the^? 0^ co'.
Me^'n
VVP
From: "Hoang Khoa Quyen" <quyenkhoa@HOTMAIL.COM>
>Reply-To: vnsa@list-server.net
>To: vnsa@list-server.net
>Subject: Re: to: ba'c DX,TP & HKQ
>Date: Sat, 30 Oct 1999 01:06:38 ICT
>
>
>Hello ba'c PVV,
>
>Ba'c la` ngu+o+`i co' va`i message to^i lu+u dde^? ddo.c la.i va` nghi~
>the^m, ne^n khi tha^'y ba'c co' y' kie^'n to^i pha?i ddo.c ma` kho^ng xoa'
>ngay nhu+ messages cu?a mo^.t so^' ngu+o+`i kha'c.DDo.c thi` pha?i dda'p
>le^~, co' gi` chu+a ddu'ng mong ba'c co+?i mo+? trao ddo^?i la.i ba(`ng
>tie^'ng VIe^.t
>
>From: "Phuong Vo Van" <phuongvv@hotmail.com>
>
> >1){ Bo? thi\ tie^'c, nhu+ng ma\ cu+' ddo.c ca'i lua^.n ddie^.u
>>khoa'c la'c,
>>~ bie^.n chu+'ng re? tie^\n, ~ hu\ng bie^.n cho+. bu'a gian ho^\ va\ ca'i
>>"va(n bu't" tho^?i pho^\ng chu.p mu~ kie^?u na\y thi\ cha'n che^'t...}
>
>Ba'c no'i kho+i kho+i the^' na`y thi` kho^ng bie^'t no'i ai, tha`nh ra
>nhu+ chu+?i ddo^?ng, ngu+o+`i na`o cu~ng nghi` la` kho^ng no'i ve^`
>mi`nh.Ho+n nu+~a kho^ng co' da^~n chu+'ng pha^n ti'ch thi` la`m sao giup
>ddu+o+.c ngu+o+`i kha'c tie^n bo^. ho+? ba'c.Ngu+o+`i ta cu`ng la.i ba?o
>la` bac chu.p mu~ dda^'y.
>
>>Tru+\ ba'c HKQ thi\ to^i tin ra(\ng ba'c TP va\ DX hie^?u ca'i nghi~a
>>"thu+.c" cua? ca'i tu+\ "shit" ma\ ba'c KP vie^'t nhu+ the^' na\o !.
>
>To^i nghi~ ra(`ng va^'n dde^` Anh ngu+~ cu?a ba'c KP ma` co^ cha'u ga'i
>Sa`i gon` dda(.t ra lo+'n ho+n, ro^.ng ho+n va` phu+'c ta.p ho+n ca'i tu+`
>Shit na`y nhie^`u la('m. Sao ba'c la.i bo? ru+`ng nhi`n va`o ca^y the^ ?
>Co^ cha'u ga'i nga.o ma.n kia no'i ddu'ng hay sai ? DDo' la` ddie^`u
>nhu+~ng ngu+o+`i nhu+ to^i muo^'n ddu+o.c cac bac chi? gia'o chu+' kho^ng
>pha?i no^.i dung va` ti'nh cha^'t tu+` Shit hay dda.o ddu+'c cu?a co^ cha'u
>kia , ca`ng kho^ng pha?i la` va(n phong cu?a nhu+~ng ngu+o+`i co'tranh ca~i
>vo+'i bac KP.
>Ve^` tu+` Shit, to^i chi? bie^'t Tu+` ddie^?n Anh Vie^.t cu?a Vie^.n ngo^n
>ngu+~ ho.c ( loa.i 93000 mu.c tu+` chi'nh va` 50.000 to^? ho+.p tu+`,
>tha`nh ngu+~, tu.c ngu+~, qua'n ngu+~...)gia?i thi'ch da`to'm ta('t nhu+
>sau :
>
>Shit : 1. cha^'t tha?i cu?a ruo^.t, cu+'t, pha^n 2. Ia?, ddi ia? 3. ba^.y
>ba., vo^ nghi~a, nhu+ cu+'t 4. Ke? dde^ tie^.n.
>Kho^ng bie^'t co' gi` kha'c vo+'i ca'ch du`ng be^n My~ hay kho^ng.
>
>
>>PS: rie^ng 2 ca^u ho?i cho ba'c ba'c HKQ
>>ba'c vie^'t:
>>" To^i tha^'y trong nhu+~ng pha?n u+'ng ca?m ti'nh kie^?u na`y co' su+.
>>la^~n
>>lo^.n giu+~a ddo^'i thu? va` ddo^'i tu+o+.ng.Khi to^i ddo^'i thoa.i vo+'i
>>ba'c ve^` ba^'t ky` ddo^'i tu+o+.ng na`o, cha(?ng ha.n, ve^`Mao tra.ch
>>DDo^ng, ve^`Freud, ve^` chuo^.t Mickey hay ve^`gio^'ng cho' Nha^.t mo+'i
>>nha^.p va`o VN .v.v , thi` kho^ng ca^`n cac quy' vi. ddo^'i tu+o+.ng tre^n
>>co' ma(.t dde^? nghe ta no'i thi` ta mo+'i la` ngu+o+`i ddu+'ng
>>dda('n.To^i
>>nghi~,tre^n VNSA kho^ng ddu+o+.c phe'p to^`n ta.i su+. la^~n lo^.n a^'u
>>tri~
>>na`y ne^'u qua? tha^.t ddo' la` die^~n dda`n cu?a nhu+~ng ngu+o=`i co'
>>tri`nh ddo^. dda.i ho.c tro+? le^n."
>>a) Co' the^? ba'c co' tri\nh ddo^. tre^n dda.i ho.c o+? VN, nhu+ng la^'y ~
>>tin tu+'c tu+\ dda^u ma\ ba'c no'i VNSA la\ " ..die^~n dda`n cu?a
>>nhu+~ng
>>ngu+o=`i co'
>>tri`nh ddo^. dda.i ho.c tro+? le^n." Opposition: ~ ng\ kho^ng thuo^.c
>>da.ng/tri\nh ddo^. tre^n dda.i ho.c thi\ kho^ng pha?i ho^.i vie^n cu?a
>>VNSA?
>
>VNSA la` die^~n dda`n cu?a DU ho.c sinh VN, va^.y ddo^'i tu+o+.ng chi'ng
>la` cac DHS .To^i hie^?u DHS la` ngu+o+`i ho.c §a.i ho.c tro+? le^n.Co`n
>co' DHS tie^?u ho.c, trung ho.c kho^ng thi` to^i kho^ng bie^'t.Vi` the^',
>nhu+~ng ngu+o+`i tham gia VNSa pha?i la` ngu+o+`i co' tri`nh ddo^. dda.i
>ho.c tro+? le^n ( dda.i ho.c va` tre^n dda.i ho.c ) thi` mo+'i co' the^?
>hie^?u va` ba`n nhu+~ng va^'n dde^` trao ddo^?i tre^n die^~n dda`n
>na`y.Nhu+ng tri`nh ddo^. dda.i ho.c tro+? le^n kha'c vo+'i co' ba(`ng ca^'p
>dda.i ho.c tro+? le^n, vi` co' nhu+~ng ngu+o+`i co' ba(`ng dda.i ho.c
>nhu+ng la` ba(`ng mua, thu+.c cha^'t tri`nh ddo^. anh ta tha^'p ho+n ba(`ng
>ca^'p a^'y.Ngu+o+.c la.i, co' nhu+~ng ngu+o+`i chu+a co' ba(`ng dda.i ho.c,
>nhu+ng co' tri`nh ddo^. dda.i ho.c ne^n co' ddu? kha? na(ng hie^?u va` tham
>gia ba`n ba.c cac va^'n dde^`nhu+ To'an, Va^.t ly'v.v.tre^n VNSA.Va(n ho.c
>la` li~nh vu+.c dda(.c bie^.t, ne^n ddo^'i tu+o+.ng ro^.ng ho+n. Nhu+ng
>thu+o+`ng thi`dda so^' tha^`m la(.ng la` nhu+~ng quan sa't vie^n kho^ng
>tham go'p va`o tru+.c tie^'p ta.o la^.p va` chi pho^'i lua^.t cho+i trong
>trao ddo^?i.
>To^i cu~ng kho^ng co' ba(`ng ca^'p dda.i ho.c, nhu+ng to^i tu+. cho mi`nh
>co'tri`nh ddo^. dda.i ho.c vi` to^i co' nhu+~ng ho.c tro` la` nhu+~ng
>ngu+o+`i co' va`i ba(`ng dda.i ho.c va` to^i tu+`ng vie^'t thue^lua^.n va(n
>tie^'n sy~ cho ma^'y ngu+o+`i ro^`i.
>
>>b)Ba'c co' bie^'t ca'i go.i la\ "ddo^'i tu+o+.ng AV" kha'c vo+'i ca'c
>>ddo^'i
>>tu+o+.ng tre^n o+? cho^? na\o 0^?
>
>Anh AV la` ddo^'i tu+o+.ng dda(.c bie^.t.
>1- Sau khi kho?i VNSA,anh vu+`a la` ddo^'i tu+o+.ng ch mo^.t va`i thread
>co`n do+? dang. Trong tu+ cach ddo^'i tu+o+ng nha^.n thu+'c anh kho^ng
>kha'c gi` cac ddo^'i tu+o+.ng va('ng ma(.t kha'c ma` VNSA dda~ ba`n
>2-Nhu+ng ra kho?i VNSA ro^`i, anh AV va^~n co' y' thu+'c lie^n he^. gia'n
>tie^'p vo+'i VNSA qua nhu+~ng ngu+o+`i nhu+ cac bac AH, VHL. Do ddo', anh
>va^~n nhu+ la` mo^.t tha`nh vie^n ba'n chi'nh thu+'c nhu+ anh TVN va^.y.
>Xe't ca? hai tu+ cach tre^n thi`bac se` tha^'y bac TP cha(?ng co' gi`
>dda'ng che^ tra'ch nhu+ ngo^. nha^.n kho^ng kha'ch quan cu?a mo^.t so^'
>ngu+o+`i.
>
>Cheers,
>
>Hoa`ng Khoa Quye^`n
>
>
>
>
>>>Ne^'u do ddo^'i tu+o+.ng mo+? ro^.ng ma` lo.t va`o nhu+~ng ngu+o+`i
>>>ngo^.
>>>nha^.n thi` cu~ng kho^ng sao, nhu+nng chu'ng ta pha?i co^ng ba(`ng trong
>>>lua^.t cho+i, i't nha^'t cu~ng kho^ng dde^? su+. chi pho^'i lua^.t cho+i
>>>ro+i va`o tay nhu+~ng ngu+o+`i a^'u tri`.Khi anh AV re'o cac nha` va(n VN
>>>go.i la` lu~ ba^'t lu+o+ng ba bi. thi`co' ma(.t cac nha` va(n o+? tre^n
>>>VNSA
>>>dde^? nghe kho^ng,tha^.m chi' anh ta co`n bia. ra cho ngu+o+`i va('ng
>>>ma(.t
>>>mo^.t ca'i to^. i ma` sau na`y te' ra la` kho^ng co',anh ta co`n la.m
>>>ba`n
>>>chu+?i bo+'i bao nhie^u nha^n va^.t kha'c, sao kho^ng ai go.i anh ta la`
>>>no'i xa^'u sau lu+ng, kho^ng co' ai te ta'i nha?y ra le^n lo+p Ai Viet
>>>ve^`
>>>dda.o ddu+'c?
>>>
>>>Cheers,
>>>
>>>Hoa`ng Khoa Quye^`n
>>>
>>>
>>>
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