Re: Freedom, Fatherland and Cybernetics

[Tran Minh Tien <tran@idefix.mpipks-dresden.mpg.de>]

> 
> Hi,
> Cho to^i ddu+o+.c go'p ma^'y ca^u.
> "Tu+. do" tie^'ng Ta`u pho^? tho^ng la` (zi3 you2)
> "Tu+." la`la` tu+. mi`nh, tu+. nhie^n
> "Do" (you)  la` nguye^n do, vie^'t gio^'ng chu+~ ddie^`n, ne't giu+~a da`i
> le^n tho^i. Co' ca^u "Do ba^'t dda('c" (you bu de) tu+'c la`kho^ng the^? quye^'t
> ddi.nh, kho^ng the^? theo. NHu+ va^.y tu+. do co' the^? hie^? u la`tu+.
> quye^'t ddi.nh.
> 
> 
> Nguyen Nam Trung
> 
> 
> >Ca'i na`y ba'c Tie^'n pha?i chi? cho the^m chu+' to^i chu+a hie^?u.
> >
> >Theo nhu+ ba'c no'i la` chu+~ <<do>> trong tu+. do la` do <<khi?>> trong
> >co^? va(n? Va^.y co`n ba^y gio+` <<do>> la` do <<ddie^`n>>. Ta.i sao co'
> >su+. kha'c bie^.t xa nhu+ va^.y?    

Cha`o ca'c ba'c,

Ca'm o+n ca'c ba'c dda~ ho?i ca(.n ke~ khie^'n to^i co' di.p va'c 
Thie^`u Chu+?u ra xem va` pha't hie^.n 1 so^' ca'i sai (sai cho^~
kha'c, chu+' kho^ng sai o+? dda^y).

Theo Thie^`u Chu+?u, "do"(ddie^`n) co' nghi~a bo+?i, vi` (ly' do,
nguye^n do), nhu+ng co`n co' nghi~a nhu+ "do"(khuye^?n). "Do" (khuye^?n)
la` gio^'ng khi?, nhu+ng cu~ng co`n co' nghi~a nhu+ "do"(ddie^`n).
Nhu+ va^.y co' the^? tha^'y 2 chu+~ "do" na`y hay bi. du`ng la^~n
cho nhau\. To^i kho^ng ti`m tha^'y chu+~ "do" na`o co' nghi~a la`
"quye^'t ddi.nh" ca?\. "Do ba^'t dda('c" theo to^i hie^?u thi` co'
nghi~a "kho^ng ddu+o+.c", "kho^ng quye^'t"... Chu+~ "do" na`y la`
"do"(khuye^?n), do ddo' ma` co' tu+` "do du+." (tu+'c nhu+ con
do, con du+. hay nhu+ con khi?, con lo+.n (theo Thie^`u Chu+?u)).

Ba'c Tie^'n Du~ng muo^'n khuye^?n thi` cu~ng ho+.p vo+'i ca'c cu.
thu+o+? xu+a vi` "do" na`y thuo^.c bo^. "khuye^?n", tu+'c loa`i cho'\.
Ta.i sao ca'c cu. xe^'p khi? va`o loa`i cho' thi` to^i chi.u\.
Tu+o+ng truye^`n, cu. Kho^?ng nga`y xu+a tro^ng tha^'y chu+~ "khuye^?n"
thi` tra^`m tro^` khen, ai dda(.t chu+~ sao khe'o the^', tro^ng nhu+
con cho' tha^.t\.

Ba'c Ho^`ng La^m co' the^? chi? cho to^i bie^'t, o+? dda^u no'i
"tu+. do" la` tu+` go^'c Ta^y ddu+o+.c kho^ng ? Btw, du` co'
go^'c Ta^y cu~ng kho^ng quan tro.ng ne^'u khi di.ch ca'c cu.
nga`y xu+a hie^?u nhu+ the^'\.

Tra^`n Minh Tie^'n