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Ba'o VN: Nghi? la`m vie^.c chie^`u thu+' ba?y, bao gio+` thu+.c hie^.n ?
Tuo^?i Tre? 13/03/97
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Nghi? la`m vie^.c chie^`u thu+' ba?y, bao gio+` thu+.c hie^.n ?
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Nhu+ tin dda~ ddu+a, Thu? tu+o+'ng Chi'nh phu? dda~ ye^u ca^`u Bo^. Lao ddo^.ng - thu+o+ng binh va`
xa~ ho^.i (LDd-TB&XH) so+'m tri`nh dde^` a'n ru't nga('n tho+`i gian la`m vie^.c trong tua^`n
theo hu+o+'ng ca'n bo^. co^ng nha^n vie^n (CBCNV) se~ ddu+o+.c nghi? chie^`u thu+' ba?y. Vi` sao
pha?i ru't nga('n tho+`i gian la`m vie^.c ? Bao gio+` thu+.c hie^.n ? Pho'ng vie^n Tuo^~i Tre?
dda~ trao ddo^~i vo+'i o^ng Ddo^~ Minh Cu+o+ng, Vie^.n tru+o+?ng Vie^.n Khoa ho.c lao ddo^.ng va` ca'c
va^'n dde^` xa~ ho^.i - co+ quan soa.n tha?o dde^` a'n na`y.
* Thu+a o^ng, xua^'t pha't tu+` nhu+~ng ly' do gi` ma` Bo^. LDd-TB&XH co' kie^'n nghi. le^n
Chi'nh phu? ve^` hu+o+'ng ru't nga('n tho+`i gian la`m vie^.c, cu. the^? la` CBCNV se~ ddu+o+.c nghi?
chie^`u thu+' ba?y?
- Bo^. Lua^.t lao ddo^.ng cu?a ta qui ddi.nh ngu+o+`i su+? du.ng lao ddo^.ng kho^ng ddu+o+.c buo^.c
ngu+o+`i lao ddo^.ng la`m vie^.c qua' 48 gio+`/tua^`n. Tuy nhie^n, chu'ng ta co' the^? gia?m
tho+`i gian la`m vie^.c trong tua^`n xuo^'ng ne^'u ca'c ddie^`u kie^.n ve^` to^~ chu+'c lao ddo^.ng co'
the^? thu+.c hie^.n ddu+o+.c. Ddie^`u ddo' hoa`n toa`n phu` ho+.p vo+'i Lua^.t lao ddo^.ng. La` mo^.t co+
quan khoa ho.c (vie^.n nghie^n cu+'u), chu'ng to^i pha?i nhi`n tha^'y tru+o+'c mo^.t so^' va^'n
dde^` nha^'t la` khi VN dda~ gia nha^.p ASEAN, trong khi mo^.t so^' quo^'c gia cu?a to^~ chu+'c
na`y dda~ thu+.c hie^.n ru't nga('n tho+`i gian la`m vie^.c. Khi ta ho`a nha^.p, va` tie^'n to+'i
co+?i bo? va` ha. tha^'p ha`ng ra`o thue^' quan thi` muo^'n ca.nh tranh ha`ng ho'a vo+'i ca'c
nu+o+'c, ha`ng VN pha?i co' cha^'t lu+o+.ng. Muo^'n co' ha`ng ho'a cha^'t lu+o+.ng thi` pha?i co'
ngu+o+`i lao ddo^.ng cha^'t lu+o+.ng. Dde^? co' ngu+o+`i lao ddo^.ng co' cha^'t lu+o+.ng thi` vie^.c ta(ng
tho+`i gian nghi? ngo+i va` gia?m gio+` la`m vie^.c la` mo^.t bie^.n pha'p quan tro.ng.
* Thu+a o^ng, bao gio+` thi` che^' ddo^. ru't nga('n tho+`i gian la`m vie^.c se~ thu+.c hie^.n ?
Nghe no'i ke^' hoa.ch se~ a'p du.ng tu+` 1-5-1997 ?
- Dde^` ta`i nghie^n cu+'u ru't nga('n tho+`i gian la`m vie^.c trong tua^`n cu?a chu'ng to^i
ddu+o+.c trie^?n khai tu+` tha'ng 5-1996, la` mo^.t dde^` ta`i ca^'p bo^.. Theo ke^' hoa.ch thi` se~
hoa`n ta^'t va`o tha'ng 5-1997. Song tru+o+'c ti`nh hi`nh na`y, chu'ng to^i se~ pha?i hoa`n
tha`nh va`o cuo^'i tha'ng ba dda^`u tha'ng tu+. Vie^.c bo^. tru+o+?ng co' hu+'a vo+'i Thu? tu+o+'ng a'p
du.ng tu+` nga`y 1-5-1997 hay kho^ng to^i kho^ng ro~, nhu+ng theo to^i, vie^.c ru't nga('n
tho+`i gian la`m vie^.c la` co' trie^?n vo.ng. Tuy nhie^n, qua nghie^n cu+'u, chu'ng to^i
nghi~ vie^.c a'p du.ng se~ kho^ng pha?i thu+.c hie^.n ddo^?ng nha^'t.
* Va^.y se~ a'p du.ng tru+o+'c tie^n o+? nhu+~ng khu vu+.c na`o ?
- Theo to^i, pha?i co' su+. dda'nh gia' la.i ve^` ma(.t to^~ chu+'c lao ddo^.ng khoa ho.c, cu+o+`ng
ddo^. la`m vie^.c ho+.p ly'. Nhu+ng co' the^? se~ la` ca'c co+ quan ha`nh chi'nh su+. nghie^.p
(HCSN) va` mo^.t so^' doanh nghie^.p (DN) co' ddie^`u kie^.n. o+? ca'c co+ quan HCSN, co+ quan
na`o sa('p xe^'p ddu+o+.c co^ng vie^.c go.n la.i trong na(m nga`y ru+o+~i thi` co' the^? thu+.c hie^.n
tru+o+'c. Ne^'u co+ quan na`o vo+'i so^' lu+o+.ng bie^n che^' hie^.n ta.i ma` kho^ng dda'p u+'ng ddu+o+.c
kho^'i lu+o+.ng co^ng vie^.c thi` va^~n pha?i la`m sa'u nga`y.
* Co`n ddo^'i vo+'i ca'c DN thi` the^' na`o, thu+a o^ng ?
- Tu`y theo ti'nh cha^'t, qua' tri`nh sa?n xua^'t cu?a tu+`ng DN, nhu+ng ne^n khuye^'n
khi'ch. Lua^.t lao ddo^.ng chi? ye^u ca^`u ca'c DN kho^ng ddu+o+.c ba('t buo^.c ngu+o+`i lao ddo^.ng
la`m vie^.c qua' 48gio+`/tua^`n, DN na`o to^~ chu+'c ddu+o+.c sa?n xua^'t, va^~n dda?m ba?o ddu+o+.c lo+.i
nhua^.n, sa?n lu+o+.ng... ma` ru't nga('n tho+`i gian la`m vie^.c thi` to^'t. Vi` the^', vie^.c
thu+.c hie^.n ru't nga('n tho+`i gian la`m vie^.c co`n tu`y thuo^.c va`o ti`nh hi`nh kinh te^' va`
ca'c ma(.t lo+.i, ha.i cu?a no'.
* O^ng co' the^? pha^n ti'ch nhu+~ng ma(.t lo+.i, ha.i cu?a vie^.c ru't nga('n tho+`i gian la`m
vie^.c trong tua^`n ?
- Ma(.t thua^.n lo+.i, co' the^? ngu+o+`i lao ddo^.ng the^m ddu+o+.c tho+`i gian nghi? ngo+i, su+'c
kho?e se~ phu.c ho^`i nhanh ho+n, na(ng sua^'t lao ddo^.ng ca'c nga`y trong tua^`n se~ cao
ho+n. Thu+' hai, va^'n dde^` ddi la.i, chi phi' ddi la.i, ma^.t ddo^. ddi la.i... se~ gia?m ddi.
Thu+' ba, khi nghi? ngo+i nhu+ va^.y, vie^.c cha(m so'c gia ddi`nh, con ca'i se~ to^'t ho+n,
go'p pha^`n ddo+~ ga'nh na(.ng gia'o du.c cho xa~ ho^.i. Ne^'u ddo+`i so^'ng kha' gia?, tho+`i gian
ddo' CBCNV se~ da`nh cho du li.ch va` vi` the^' cu~ng go'p pha^`n ki'ch thi'ch ca'c nga`nh du
li.ch, di.ch vu. pha't trie^?n... Cuo^'i cu`ng, quan tro.ng nha^'t, se~ ta.o the^m co^ng a(n
vie^.c la`m. Cha(?ng ha.n, mo^.t DN co' 100 nha^n co^ng, 6 nga`y/tua^`n x 100 ngu+o+`i = 600
co^ng, nay la`m na(m nga`y ru+o+~i/tua^`n thi` pha?i ca^`n 110 ngu+o+`i dde^? la`m ra sa?n lu+o+.ng
nhu+ cu~. Ne^'u ti'nh toa`n xa~ ho^.i se~ ta.o the^m mo^.t lu+o+.ng co^ng a(n vie^.c la`m lo+'n. Co`n
ma(.t tra'i, ne^'u to^~ chu+'c lao ddo^.ng kho^ng to^'t, ddang la`m sa'u nga`y, na(ng sua^'t lao
ddo^.ng kho^ng cao, khi a'p du.ng la`m na(m nga`y ru+o+~i thi` sa?n lu+o+.ng se~ gia?m ddi, va`
ma^'t 1/12 to^~ng sa?n lu+o+.ng xa~ ho^.i.
* Che^' ddo^. ru't nga('n tho+`i gian la`m vie^.c na`y se~ ddu+o+.c the^? hie^.n du+o+'i hi`nh thu+'c va(n
ba?n na`o ? Co' ddu+o+.c ghi va`o Lua^.t lao ddo^.ng kho^ng ?
- Theo to^i, kho^ng pha?i ghi va`o trong Lua^.t lao ddo^.ng ma` se~ ra du+o+'i da.ng nghi.
ddi.nh cu?a Chi'nh phu?. Va` nghi. ddi.nh ra nhu+ the^' cu~ng kho^ng he^` tra'i lua^.t.
* Theo hu+o+'ng nghie^n cu+'u thi` ddo^'i vo+'i khu vu+.c DN, xu hu+o+'ng se~ la` ba('t buo^.c hay
tu+. nguye^.n ?
- Theo to^i, kho^ng the^? ba('t buo^.c ddu+o+.c. Co`n ddo^'i vo+'i ca'c co+ quan HCSN thi` nghi.
ddi.nh cu?a Chi'nh phu? se~ qui ddi.nh.
* Nhu+ va^.y co' the^? hie^?u quye^`n lo+.i ngu+o+`i lao ddo^.ng o+? khu vu+.c HCSN va` DN la` kha'c
bie^.t nhau ?
- Vo+'i khu vu+.c DN, chu'ng to^i cho ra(`ng chi? ne^n kho^'ng che^' kho^ng qua' 48
gio+`/tua^`n, co`n ne^'u DN na`o co' ddie^`u kie^.n thu+.c hie^.n 42, 40 gio+`... thi` ra^'t hoan
nghe^nh.
* Thu+a o^ng, ta.i sao la.i la` na(m nga`y ru+o+~i ma` kho^ng pha?i na(m nga`y?
- Dda^y la` bu+o+'c dda^`u, qua' ddo^., kho^ng the^? ru't ngay xuo^'ng co`n na(m nga`y. Co`n ve^` la^u
da`i, khi VN co' tri`nh ddo^. kinh te^' tu+o+ng ddo^`ng vo+'i ca'c nu+o+'c kha'c trong khu vu+.c
thi` cha('c cha('n se~ ru't xuo^'ng na(m nga`y.
* Nhu+ng ta.i sao la.i dda(.t va^'n dde^` ru't nga('n tho+`i gian la`m vie^.c trong khi chu'ng
ta ddang ca^`n dduo^~i ki.p ca'c nu+o+'c xung quanh ?
- Va^'n dde^` la` ru't nga('n tho+`i gian la`m vie^.c nhu+ng kho^ng gia?m sa?n lu+o+.ng, ddo' mo+'i
la` ba`i toa'n. Va` theo to^i, ddo^'i vo+'i khu vu+.c HCSN thi` gia?i pha'p la` kho^ng ta(ng
ngu+o+`i, gia?m tho+`i gian la`m vie^.c va^~n dda?m ba?o kho^'i lu+o+.ng co^ng vie^.c. Ddo^'i vo+'i khu
vu+.c DN, co+ ba?n nha^'t la` ta(ng na(ng sua^'t lao ddo^.ng, to^~ chu+'c la.i lao ddo^.ng, na^ng
cao y' thu+'c cu?a ngu+o+`i lao ddo^.ng; gia?m bo+'t nhu+~ng tho+`i gian vo^ i'ch ra?i ra'c trong
ca'c nga`y trong tua^`n ma` hie^.n gio+` o+? ha^`u he^'t ca'c DN dde^`u co', tru+` ca'c DN co' vo^'n
dda^`u tu+ nu+o+'c ngoa`i. Va` ta'c du.ng cu?a no', cu~ng gio^'ng nhu+ vie^.c ta(ng lu+o+ng va^.y.
Bo+?i vi` khi ta(ng lu+o+ng cu~ng co' y' kie^'n cho ra(`ng se~ go'p pha^`n la`m ta(ng la.m pha't,
nhu+ng ma(.t kha'c ta(ng lu+o+ng cu~ng se~ la`m ta(ng na(ng sua^'t lao ddo^.ng, ngu+o+`i lao
ddo^.ng chi tie^u nhie^`u ho+n, xa~ ho^.i va^.n ha`nh to^'t ho+n... Va` nhu+ the^' a?nh hu+o+?ng cu?a
vie^.c ta(ng lu+o+ng chu+a cha('c dda~ la` xa^'u.
* Nhu+ o^ng no'i, va^'n dde^` la` ca^`n ta(ng na(ng sua^'t. Tuy nhie^n, ddie^`u na`y lie^.u co' phu`
ho+.p vo+'i the^? lu+.c ngu+o+`i VN kho^ng ?
- Kho^ng pha?i la` ta(ng cu+o+`ng ddo^. lao ddo^.ng qua' dda'ng ma` ta(ng dde^'n mu+'c na`o ngu+o+`i
lao ddo^.ng co' the^? chi.u ddu+.ng ddu+o+.c. Va^'n dde^` na`y dda~ ddu+o+.c ti'nh toa'n khi la`m lu+o+ng,
ddi.nh mu+'c, gio+` la`m vie^.c... phu` ho+.p vo+'i the^? lu+.c ngu+o+`i VN. Chu? ye^'u, nhu+ to^i dda~
no'i, ca^`n to^? chu+'c la.i lao ddo^.ng, loa.i bo? tho+`i gian, qui tri`nh, thao ta'c... ba^'t
ho+.p ly' dde^? dda.t mo^.t na(ng sua^'t cao ho+n.
* Xin ca?m o+n o^ng !
Quy' Ha`o thu+.c
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