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Re: Ti'nh ca'ch... (3)
On Thu, 27 Mar 1997, Tran Minh Tien wrote:
> Ne^'u xoa'y la^u qua' thi` "lu.c", "lam" ... cu~ng xoa'y tu+`
> tho+`i Ma~ Vie^.n ro^`i\.
Oh, yes. But is there any evidence that these words were stolen at Ma~
Vie^.n time?
If the governer class of Giao Chi? was like Anglo-Saxon, we cannot
talk about stealing. The South-East Asian race was something like the
Brittons or Celtics...
> Ma`u sa('c o+? dda^u cu~ng the^' tho^i\. Ngu+o+`i ta bao gio+`
> cu~ng "quan va^.t thu? tu+o+.ng", sau ddo' mo+'i kha'i qua't
> tha`nh ma`u (tru+` ddi xoa'y cu?a thie^n ha.), nhu+ "bi'ch"
> la` ma`u 1 loa.i ngo.c, "thanh" la` chi? ma`u xanh cu?a ca^y,
> ca'i la' ddang dda^m cho^`i, "xi'ch" la` ma`u ngo.n lu+?a trong lo`,
> "ha('c" la` ma`u muo^.i than trong be^'p ... Cha? cu+' ma`u,
> thu+' kha'c cu~ng the^'\.
I don't know, my daughter knows a lot of English colors and I cannot
relate them to anything. Let me ask her.
> Chi? co' ddie^`u kho^ng tha^'y trong chu+~ Ha'n tu+` chi
> tu+o+ng tu+. nhu+ "ma`u cu+'t ngu+.a" ... Cu+' theo quan
> ddie^?m "quan va^.t thu? tu+o+.ng" thi` te' ra ca'c cu.
> nha` ta nhi`n pha^n (sorry !) dde^? la^'y tu+o+.ng va`
> tru+`u tu+o+.ng ho'a\.
Ddoa.n na`y la.i pha?i no'i tie^'ng Vie^.t cho no' impressive.
Ca'c cu. nha` ta kho^ng nhu+~ng nhi`n ma` co`n ra^'t quy' tro.ng.
" Nha^'t nu+o+'c nhi` ph..". Cha('c vi` ta^`m quan tro.ng ddo^'i vo+'i
no^`i co+m ma` kho^'i thu+' mang hi`nh bo'ng cu?a pha^n ma(.c du` cha(ng
" thu? tu+o+.ng" gi` he^'t. Thi' du. hoa "cu+'t lo+.n". Lu'c dda^`u to^i
nghi~ la` mo^.t loa.i hoa To+?m la('m nhu+ng thu+.c te^' co' dde^'n no^~i
na`o, cu~ng la` mo^.t loa.i hoa ddo^`ng no^.i nhu+ Bo^` Co^ng Anh o+? A^u
cha^u ma` tho^i.
Tho+ ti`nh thi` co' nhu+~ng ca^u ba^'t hu? nhU+:
" Ga'i pha?i ho+i trai nhu+ tha`i la`i ga(.p cu+'t cho'
Trai pha?i ho+i ga'i nhu+ be` vo' tro^i so^ng"
( Xin anh Tru+o+ng Tro.ng Hoa`ng gia?ng nghi~a la` the^' na`o.)
Ro^`i chU+a he^'t:
" Anh nhu+ cu.c c... tro^i so^ng
Em nhu+ con cho' du+'ng tro^ng dda^`u bo+`".
( Dde^'n che^'t vo+'i ca'c cu.. Tho+ vo+'i tha^?n gi` ma` grotesque qua'
tro+`i)
Kho^ng bie^'t ca'i hi`nh " vie^n pha^n" la` "thu? tu+o+.ng" cu?a
ngu+o+`i Ta`u hay cu?a ngu+o+`i Vie^.t. Ca'i ca^u cu?a Mao Chu? Ti.ch:
" Tri' thu+'c kho^ng dda'ng..." la` nga`i ho.c ddu+o+.c khi ha.
Giang Nam hay ca'ch no'i cu?a Ho^` nam. Tie^'c qua' cu. Kho^?ng loa.i
ma^'y ba`i ba^.y ba. trong kinh Thi chu+' kho^ng bie^'t dda^u ta la.i
co' nguye^n ba?n cu?a ma^'y ca^u ti`nh ca Vie^.t o+? tre^n.
Ma^'y chuye^.n hay ho cu?a Anh Huy Duong va` Tua^'n Nguye^~n hay
the^' ma` to^i tra tu+` ddie^?n tie^'ng Vie^.t thi` nghe ra^'t cho^'i tai:
Pha^n bo^' cu?a o^ng Poa't xo^ng.
:-))
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> Cheers,
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> Tran Minh Tien
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