RE: Ba'o VN: Sinh vie^n no'i gi` ve^` Dda.i ho.c Dda.i cu+o+ng

[Aiviet Nguyen <aiviet@cat.syr.edu>]

Hi Anh Huy,
  I wish so. But in fact, we have to go through the curriculum to see how 
good it is. But two years in that stage of a life... wasteful.
  Now we can be OK because we don't have to pay for it...But after all if 
that money can be invested in another way. The richness of a nation is 
nothing as sum of the richness of individuals. When will we care about 
the money of people and will not waste it.
  All I can say is that the material of DHDC is good for nothing useful.
They learn something but in comparision with the two years, it is a very 
poor havest, or I can say it is a totally failed investment.
  The most important thing they could have learned is the academic 
atmosphere, the intellectual value system through interaction with the 
university as a whole. Unfortunately, the complete separation from the
upper part does not allow them to do that.
  
 I would like to see the following healthy competition:
  You go home and set up some instituition to train the failed students 
from DHDC. I will open some professional training center for those who failed
even to enter DHDC. After 4 years, which are more useful and happy?
 Can you imagine?
Cheers
Aiviet
  
  

On Thu, 10 Apr 1997, Huy Quang Nguyen (Global Trends) wrote:

> Hello bac AiViet
> 
> How can you tell those people could not use their knowledges? At least
> they know how to work (in general meaning) independently. The way pupils
> learn in high school is totally different to the way students do. 2
> years is quite enough for them to know. I thought this is the most
> important.
> 
> There exists many professional institutes in Vietnam and they keep
> opening all the time. Once students from villages chose to come to the
> universites, they believed themself that they can handle all the
> difficulties they might meet in the university environment. Even failed,
> it's simply the price for them to learn what is real life because youths
> always want to try the luck themself. Fallen in this case they still
> have enough time for other technical training.
> 
> Quang Huy
> 
> > ----------
> > From: 	Aiviet Nguyen
> > Reply To: 	vnsa-l@csd.uwm.edu
> > Sent: 	Thursday, April 10, 1997 1:15 AM
> > To: 	Multiple recipients of list
> > Subject: 	RE: Ba'o VN: Sinh vie^n no'i gi` ve^` Dda.i ho.c Dda.i
> > cu+o+ng
> > 
> > 
> > Hi Anh Huy,
> > My reason is that after they invested few years they should be able to
> > 
> > utilize the knowledge. The students from the villages spent all their
> > saving for a life to try and failed. It would have been better for
> > them 
> > to start at technical training institutes, where they can learn a 
> > profession for their future.
> > 
> >   To split a University into two parts is the craziest idea in the
> > world.
> > The juniors should have contact with seniors in the same environment
> > to 
> > develope their ability. We cannot produce good profeesionals by close 
> > them into a class taught by Nobel laureates. Interaction between
> > people 
> > and disciplines is the sense of Universities. Otherwise, it means only
> > a 
> > good library with good facilities.
> > 
> > Cheers
> > Aiviet  
> > 
> > On Wed, 9 Apr 1997, Huy Quang Nguyen (Global Trends) wrote:
> > 
> > > Then what are your reasons? Absurd is being very necessary because
> > it
> > > give our students a very base knowledges before entering the
> > > professional fields. Certainly, part of them could not pass the
> > final
> > > exam but that's OK. They will do their job much better than ones who
> > > just graduated from high-school. And the last but not least, absurd
> > > encourages students to study. Universities are not places for
> > students
> > > to play around which is the situation of 80s.
> > > 
> > > Quang Huy
> > > 
> > > > ----------
> > > > From: 	Aiviet Nguyen
> > > > Reply To: 	vnsa-l@csd.uwm.edu
> > > > Sent: 	Wednesday, April 09, 1997 9:47 PM
> > > > To: 	Multiple recipients of list
> > > > Subject: 	Re: Ba'o VN: Sinh vie^n no'i gi` ve^` Dda.i ho.c Dda.i
> > > > cu+o+ng
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > Dda,i ho.c dda.i Cu+o+ng = Absurd.
> > > > I have been against it from the very beginning.
> > > > 
> > > > Aiviet
> > > > 
> > > 
> > 
>