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Re: Te^.Tra.ng Ba(`ng Ca^'p O+? Vie^.t Nam.
Hi all,
To^i kho^ng ma^'y ddo^`ng y' vo+'i y' kie^'n cua? tie^'n si~ Hua^n. Ta^'t
nhie^n co' ra^'t nhie^`u su+ ba^'t ho+.p ly' trong vie^.c chuye^?n ddo^?i
ba(`ng ca^'p, tuy nhie^n pha?i nhi`n nha^.n vie^.c chuye^?n ddo^?i la`
mo^.t nhu ca^`u ra^'t thu+.c te^' o+? Vie^.t nam, va` nhu+~ng ba^'t ho+.p
ly' ddo' la` kho^ng the^? tra'nh kho?i.
Ai cu~ng bie^'t ra(`ng chu'ng ta dda~ theo he^. tho^'ng dda`o ta.o cua? Nga
qua' la^u, co' ra^'t nhie^`u ngu+o+`i ddu+o+.c dda`o ta.o ta.i LX va`
DDo^ng A^u. Ke^'t qua? la` hie^.n co' ra^'t nhie^`u Pho' TS, va` mo^.t so^'
TS theo he^. tho^'ng ddo'. Khoa?ng 10 na(m tro+? la.i dda^y, vie^.c giao
lu+u vo+'i ca'c nu+o+'c thuo^.c he^. "Tu+ ba?n" pha't trie^?n, so^'
lu+o+.ng ngu+o+`i Vie^.t ddu+o+.c dda`o ta.o theo he^. tho^'ng na`y ta(ng
le^n ro~ re^.t. Trong khi ddo', so^' ngu+o+`i theo ho.c o+? DDo^ng A^u
gia?m ha(?n, co' the^? no'i la` co`n kho^ng dda'ng ke^?. Ke^'t qua? la`
chu'ng ta co' mo^.t so^' lu+o+.ng nga`y ca`ng ta(ng ca'c PhD, Dr.
Engrg,..., va` Master.
Chu'ng ta du`ng tie^'ng Vie^.t ne^n kho^ng the^? du`ng ca'c tu+` nu+o+'c
ngoa`i nhu+ candidate, doctor nauk, master, PhD,... ma` ca^`n pha?i co'
te^n go.i "Vie^.t nam". DDie^`u ddo' da^~n dde^'n vie^.c quy ddo^?i. Ve^`
ti'nh ho+.p ly' cua? he^. quy ddo^?i to^i se~ ba`n dde^'n sau.
Tru+o+'c dda^y khi mo+'i co' i't PhD holders, va` khi ta va^~n chung thu?y
vo+'i he^. dda`o ta.o cua? Nga, PhD ddu+o+.c go.i la` Pho' Tie^'n Si~.
Ca'c PhD holders thu+o+`ng kho^ng ha`i lo`ng ve^` ddie^`u ddo'. Ma` ho. co'
quye^`n nhu+ va^.y. Trong khi o+? My~ hoa(.c ba^'t ky` dda^u ddo' ho.
ddu+o+.c go.i la` Dr., ve^` nha` thi` la.i la` Pho' (pho' mo^.c, pho'
co^'i.... cu~ng la` pho').
DDie^`u quan tro.ng ho+n la` o+? cho^~ la~nh da.o ta dda~ nha^.n tha^'y
ca^`n pha?i bo? he^. tho^'ng dda`o ta.o kie^?u Nga vi` ti'nh ke'm hie^.u
qua? ddo^'i vo+'i sa?n xua^'t cua? no' dde^? theo ma^~u he^. tho^'ng cua?
Anh, My~ (hie^.u qua? ho+n). Ke^'t qua? la` ve^` la^u da`i se~ kho^ng co`n
co' ca'c TS khoa ho.c theo he^. Nga ma` chi? co`n PhD. Ne^'u dda~ theo he^.
tho^'ng cua? My~, Nha^.t (DDa.i ho.c, Tha.c sy~(master), tie^'n si~ (Ph.D))
thi`vie^.c bo? qua mo^.t so^' ba^'t ho+.p ly' dde^? quy ddo^?i nhu+ va^.y
theo to^i la` ho+.p ly'.
Vie^.c chuye^?n ddo^?i Pho' tie^'n sy~ (3 na(m dda`o ta.o) tha`nh TS (PhD)
vo+'i to^'i thie^?u 5 na(m dda`o ta.o [2 years for Master, 3 years for
PhD], cu~ng kho^ng the^? coi la~ ddu+o+ng nhie^n tu+o+ng ddu+o+ng nhu+ng
cu~ng cha^'p nha^.n ddu+o+.c. Va^'n dde^` la` ddu.ng cha.m to+'i nhu+~ng
ngu+o+`i nhu+ o^ng Ha^n. Tuy nhie^n ne^'u xu+'ng dda'ng la` nhu+~ng
ngu+o+`i mo+? ddu+o+`ng cho mo^.t li~nh vu+.c mo+'i nhu+ TS Ha^n no'i thi`
vie^.c nghi~ dde^'n ca'i thie^.t tho`i kia cua? ho. co' le~ la` "Ta^`m
thu+o+`ng" cha(ng?
Hi`nh nhu+ nhu+~ng nha` khoa ho.c ha`ng dda^`u trong ca'c nga`nh dde^`u
kho^ng nghi~ dde^'n ca'i thie^.t vi` bi. quy ddo^`ng ddo'.
Ca'i chi'nh la` danh tie^'ng nghe^` nghie^.p cua? ho. ddo^'i vo+'i ddo^`ng
nghie^.p, xa~ ho^.i trong nu+o+'c, va` xa ho+n la` tre^n the^' gio+'i. Co'
le~ chi? nhu+~ng TS kho^ng co' ddu+o+.c ca'i ddo' mo+'i lo la('ng cho
vie^.c dda'nh ddo^`ng.
Cu~ng ca^`n pha?i nhi`n nha^.n ra(`ng cu~ng dda~ co' su+. co+ ho^.i nha^'t
ddi.nh trong vie^.c go.i te^n. Cha(?ng ha.n co' mo^.t tho+`i ngu+o+`i ta
go.i TS la` TS ca^'p 2, PTS la` TS ca^'p 1; GS la` GS ca^'p 2, PGS la` GS
ca^'p 1. The^' la` ai cu~ng tha`nh tie^'n si~, gia'o su+ ca?. Trong ddo'
ddu+o+.c lo+.i nha^'t la` nhie^`u nha` la~nh dda.o o+? ca'c bbo^., cu.c,
vu.,....
Theo to^i nhie^`u y' kie^'n cua? TS Ha^n kho^ng xa'c dda'ng, ne^'u kho^ng
no'i la` kho^ng ddu'ng, va` co' le~ la` thie^'u su+. nhi`n nha^.n kha'ch
quan.
> Tie^'n si~ Nguye^~n Xua^n Ha^n, thuo^.c tru+o+`ng DDa.i
> ho.c Quo^'c Gia Ha` No^.i, dda~ nha^.n ddi.nh ve^` nhu+~ng sai la^`m
> nga^y ngo^ va` phi ly' ve^` ba(`ng ca^'p o+? Vie^.t Nam.
> Theo Tie^'n si~ Ha^n thi` "so sa'nh vo+'i he^. tho^'ng ba(`ng ca^'p cu?a
> the^' gio+'i va` cu?a Vie^.t Nam tru+o+'c dda^y thi` he^. tho^'ng mo+'i
> co' nhu+~ng ddie^`u nha^`m la^~n dda'ng tie^'c", cha(?ng ha.n nhu+:
To^i hoa`n toa`n kho^ng hie^?u ddoa.n ddu+o+'i dda^y: Ai hie^?u ngu+o+`i
to^'t nghie^.p dda.i ho.c ddu+o+.c ca^'p ba(`ng tha.c si~??? The^' gio+'i
be^n ngoa`i la` ai??? To^i kho^ng nghi~ nhu+ va^.y va` to^i cu~ng ca`ng
kho^ng pha?i la` ca7n bo^. phu. tra'ch.
> 1. Ngu+o+`i to^'t nghie^.p DDa.i ho.c: Ca'c ca'n bo^. phu. tra'ch hie^?u
> ca^'p ba(`ng Cu+? nha^n, co`n the^' gio+'i be^n ngoa`i hie^?u ca^'p
> ba(`ng Tha.c si~!
> 2. Hai loa.i ba(`ng ca^'p kha'c nhau ve^` ho.c thua^.t PhD Pho' tie^'n
> si~ va` GSCI Tie^'n si~ ddu+o+.c hie^?u tre^n thu+.c te^' la` cu`ng
> ba^.c nhu+ nhau (chi'nh Vo~ Va(n Kie^.t ky' xa'c nha^.n nga`y 8/9/95).
Vie^.c quy ddo^?i giu+~a Ph.D va` Pts, cho du` Thu? tu+o+'ng hay ai ky' ddi
nu+~a cu~ng chi? la` tu+o+ng ddo^'i va` la` mo^.t gia?i pha'p ti`nh the^'.
Die^`u ddo' kho^ng co' nghia~ ddo' la` ddu+o+ng nhie^n, la` cha^n ly'.
Ne^'u TS Hua^n ma(.c nhie^n coi PTS la` PhD thi`.... co' le~ ho+i coi
thu+o+`ng lao ddo^.ng qua'. Hai na(m ho.c da`i ho+n ddo' cha(?ng le~ kho^ng
co' mo^.t ty' y' nghi~a na`o.
> Hie^?u theo
> UNESCO va` Lie^n Xo^ tru+o+'c dda^y thi` GSCI Tie^'n si~ la` tha^`y cu?a
> PhD Pho' tie^'n si~ theo y' nghi~a nhie^`u ma(.t cu?a thua^.t ngu+~
ddo'. Khi na`o ngu+o+`i ca'n bo^. khoa >ho.c co' te^n go.i la` ba'c ho.c?
DDie^`u ddo' ddu'ng vo+'i LX giu+~a TS va` PTS, kho^ng co' nghia~ la`
ddu'ng vo+'i the~' gio+'i. Bie^'t bao nha` ba'c ho.c My~ nha^.n gia?i
thu+o+?ng Nobel, va` la` nhu+~ng ca^y dda.i thu. cua? chuye^n nga`nh cua?
ho., the^' nhu+ng ho. chi? la` nhu+~ng pho' TS theo ca'ch hie^?u cua? TS
Ha^n!!!!!!
> He^. tho^'ng ba(`ng ca^'p mo+'i ddu+a ra co' pha?i dde^? thu'c dda^?y
> na^ng cao cha^'t lu+o+.ng dda`o ta.o sao cho ca'c ta^'m ba(`ng cu?a
> Vie^.t Nam xa~ ho^.i chu? nghi~a tie^'n da^`n to+'i ga^`n to+'i chua^?n
> vo+'i quo^'c te^' kho^ng? Tie^'n si~ Ha^n no'i ra(`ng hoa`n toa`n
> kho^ng, ma` thu+.c cha^'t chi? la` su+. ddo^?i te^n ho.c vi.
> Cu~ng pha?i no'i the^m, tu+` su+. nha^`m la^~n giu+~a Cu+? nha^n va`
> Tha.c si~ dda~ da^~n dde^'n lo^.n xo^.n trong vie^.c to^? chu+'c, dda`o
> ta.o\.
Ai nha^`m la^~n giu+~a cu+? nha^n va` tha.c sy~????
> Theo Tie^'n si~ Ha^n "tho+`i gian vu+`a qua o+? Vie^.t Nam dda~ la.m
> pha't ca'c loa.i ba(`ng ca^'p, co' ngu+o+`i no'i va`ng-thau la^~n lo^.n,
> ba(`ng tha^.t co' no+i co`n i't ho+n ba(`ng gia?, thi` su+. ddo^?i
> mo+'i na`y se~ da^~n to+'i mo^.t su+. thu.t lu`i ghe^ go+'m dde^'n
> ba(`ng ca^'p tu+o+ng ddu+o+ng".
DDie^`u na`y thi` dda'ng buo^`n la` kha' pho^? bie^'n nhu+ng kho^ng pha?i
la` do su+. chuye^?n ddo^?i.
Co`n nhie^`u ddie^`u co' the^? trao ddo^?i nhu+ng go~ va`o ma^'t tho+`i
gian qua'. Mo+`i ca'c ba'c tie^'p tu.c cho y' kie^'n.
Cheers,
Kim