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Re: Ca^y thuo^'c, patent, ethical issues
> Chuye^.n na`y dda~ xa?y ra nhie^`u ro^`i. To^i tha^'y
>y' kie^'n cu?a chi. DQ quan tro.ng. Muo^'n la`m gi` thi`
>la`m, ma^'y ba'c be^n VN ca^`n pha?i very careful vo+'i ma^'y
>anh cowboy na`y mo+'i ddu+o+.c. Coi chu+`ng ma^'y a?nh mang
>tie^`n va`o ro^`i hijack ca'i project la` ca'c ba'c ddo'
>cha(?ng co' credit gi` ra'o tro.i. Coi chu+`ng.
>
> Vie^.n cu?a to^i dda~ mo^.t la^`n ra toa` vo+'i mo^.t
>co^ng ty du+o+.c kho^?ng lo^` cu?a My~ cu~ng vi` vu. na`y.
>Ho. va`o va` tung tie^`n cho mi`nh la`m, xong ho. mang ddi
>dda(ng ky' patent ho^`i na`o cha(?ng ai hay, khi hay ra thi`
>dda~ muo^.n. Chuye^.n phu+'c ta.p la('m va` chu+a nga~ ngu?
>gi` ca?.
***** Hi` hi`, ma^'y ba'c be^n U'c ca'nh ddo^`ng nhie^`u the^' ma` cow
boy U'c dda^'u su'ng cha^.m ho*n cow boy My~ a` ?(Joke)
Tuy nhie^n ba'c ma('ng co^ng ty My~ kho^ng bie^'t co' ddu'ng kho^ng ?
Ca'c co^ng ty du*o*.c o*? My~ ha^`u he^'t cu?a Suiseland, UK, Germany
... dda^'y ba'c o*i! Co^ng ty dda^`u na~o cu?a ho. o*? chi'nh quo^'c
co`n o*? My~ chi? la` nhu*~ng co^ng ty con(nhu*ng to ho*n cg^ ty me.)
ma` tho^i . Ba'c ma('ng Cow Boy My~ to^.i nghie^.p!!!!
>
>
>>To^i sa(~n sa`ng trao ddo^?i y' kie^'n vo*'i ca'c ba'c be^n nha` ve^`
>>nhu*~ng tho^ng tin lie^n he^. dde^'n va^'n dde^` processing and
>>development a drug dde^? ba?o ve^. quye^`n lo*i. cho VN.
>
> Mi`nh la` nhu+~ng ngu+o+`i co' kinh nghie^.m chuye^.n
>na`y cho ne^n ca^`n pha?i ma'ch cho ca'c ba'c be^n VN. Va`
>to^i hoan nghe^nh chi. DQ trong vie^.c na`y.
Nhu*ng co' ai nho*` mi`nh dda^u ha? ba'c ???? Ba('t dda^u` vo*'i ai va`
tu*` dda^u ? ???????? Co' ba'c na`o bie^'t ma'ch giu'p la`m phu*o*'c!
>
>> Ba'c Tua^'n, ne^'u qua? tha^.t la` "tha^`n du*o*.c" thi` $400,000
dda^u
>>co' lo*'n! Tuy la` lo*'n ddo^'i vo*'i grant nghie^n cu*'u.
>
> Tro+`i o+i, to^i dda~ ba la^`n xin tie^`n NIH va` chi?
>tha`nh co^ng co' mo^.t la^`n va` so^' tie^`n chi? ba(`ng so^'
>le~ cu?a 400K, ne^n to^i tha^'y la` mu+`ng ro^`i :). Nhu+ng
>nhu+ chi. no'i ddo', ne^'u la` wonder drug thi` so^' tie^`n
>na`y cha(?ng la` bao nhie^u.
>
Ba'c no'i nhu* the^' na`y la` ddo^`ng y' vo*'i ca^u cu?a to^i chu*' ?
>
> Mo^.t ddie^`u ca^`n chu' y' nu+~a la` ne^'u muo^'n
>ho+.p ddo^`ng vo+'i ca'c co^ng ty du+o+.c dde^? sa?n xua^'t
>ha`ng loa.t (mass production) thi` pha?i qua clinical trials,
>FDA (food drug agency - "hung tha^`n" cu?a ca'c co^ng ty
>du+o+.c) phie^`n phu+'c va` to^'n ke'm la('m, chu+' kho^ng
>ddo+n gia?n nhu+ ca'c ba'c be^n VN tu+o+?ng dda^u.
>
> Ta^'t ca? ca'c thu+? nghie^.m pha?i qua:
>
> (a) animal study tru+o+'c he^'t
> (b) dose-response study dde^? ti`m ra ca'i optimal dose
> (c) ro^`i mo+'i to+'i thu+? nghie^.m tre^n con ngu+o+`i
>
>va` ngay ca? muo^'n thu+? nghie^.m tre^n human, ca^`n pha?i
>la`m theo ddie^`u le^. cu?a The Helsinki Declaration 1969
>ha(?n ho`i, va` be^.nh nha^n pha?i ky' te^n ddo^`ng y' va`
>co' ngu+o+`i la`m ba(`ng chu+'ng. Cuo^.c thu+? nghie^.m pha?i
>ddu+o+.c design va` ti'nh toa'n tru+o+'c, pha?i ddu+o+.c
>mo^.t ho^.i ddo^`ng ethics cho phe'p (kho^ng bie^'t be^n VN
>ta co' ethics committee kho^ng nhi?). So^' lie^.u thu tha^.p
>trong thu+? nghie^.m pha?i ddu+o+.c pha^n ti'ch properly va`
>publish cho international community bie^'t.
>
> To^i tha^'y ca'c ba'c be^n VN la`m "ba.o" qua'. Nhu+~ng
>thu+? nghie^.m ma` to^i ddo.c ddu+o+.c tre^n ba'o, ne^'u dda~
>xa?y ra tha^.t (ma` to^i tin la` va^.y) thi` pha?i no'i la`
>kho^ng ddu+o+.c ETHICAL ma^'y. DDa^u pha?i muo^'n thu+?
>thuo^'c cho ai la` la`m de^~ da`ng nhu+ va^.y ddu+o+.c.
***** Hoa`n toa`n nha^'t tri' vo*'i ba'c ve^` ddie^?m na`y!
>
> To^i co`n nho+' lu'c to^i co`n la`m cho trung ta^m
>Clinical Research o+? Basle, loa.i thuo^'c Cyclosporin
>(Sandimun) la` loa.i thuo^'c du`ng cho organ transplantation,
>pha?i ma^'t ngo't 20 na(m tu+` lu'c kha'm pha' cho to+'i
>marketing!
>
> DDu+o+`ng co`n da`i dde^? ho^'t ba.c trie^.u!
****** Va^ng, ta.i My~ cu~ng ma^'t khoa?ng 10 na(m (trung bi`nh) va` chi
phi' khoa?ng 100 trie^.u do^ la dde^? ddu*a mo^.t hoa' cha^'t mo*'i
tha`nh thuo^'c ba'n tre^n thi. tru*o*`ng .
Ca'i quan tro.ng la` Contract ta ky' vo*'i ho. va` release ownership
cho ha~ng thuo^'c dde^? ho. develop tha`nh thuo^'c ba'n . Tuy` theo
ddie^`u kie^.n dda~ thoa? thua^.n va` ky'.
THeo to^i hie^?u khi ba'c nha^.n grant cu?a ho. ne^'u co' gi` pha'y
minh mo*'i thi` NIH (no*i cho grant) cu~ng co' ownership trong patent
nghie^n cu*'u ddo' va^.y . Ba'c nghi~ sao ?
Regards
DQ
>
> Tua^'n
>
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