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Re: Ca^y thuo^'c, patent, ethical issues







>	Chuye^.n na`y dda~ xa?y ra nhie^`u ro^`i. To^i tha^'y 
>y' kie^'n cu?a chi. DQ quan tro.ng. Muo^'n la`m gi` thi` 
>la`m, ma^'y ba'c be^n VN ca^`n pha?i very careful vo+'i ma^'y 
>anh cowboy na`y mo+'i ddu+o+.c. Coi chu+`ng ma^'y a?nh mang 
>tie^`n va`o ro^`i hijack ca'i project la` ca'c ba'c ddo' 
>cha(?ng co' credit gi` ra'o tro.i. Coi chu+`ng.
>
>	Vie^.n cu?a to^i dda~ mo^.t la^`n ra toa` vo+'i mo^.t 
>co^ng ty du+o+.c kho^?ng lo^` cu?a My~ cu~ng vi` vu. na`y. 
>Ho. va`o va` tung tie^`n cho mi`nh la`m, xong ho. mang ddi 
>dda(ng ky' patent ho^`i na`o cha(?ng ai hay, khi hay ra thi` 
>dda~ muo^.n. Chuye^.n phu+'c ta.p la('m va` chu+a nga~ ngu? 
>gi` ca?.

***** Hi` hi`, ma^'y ba'c be^n U'c ca'nh ddo^`ng nhie^`u the^' ma` cow 
boy U'c dda^'u su'ng cha^.m ho*n cow boy My~ a` ?(Joke) 
 Tuy nhie^n ba'c ma('ng co^ng ty My~ kho^ng bie^'t co' ddu'ng kho^ng ? 
Ca'c co^ng ty du*o*.c o*? My~ ha^`u he^'t cu?a Suiseland, UK, Germany 
... dda^'y ba'c o*i! Co^ng ty dda^`u na~o cu?a ho. o*? chi'nh quo^'c 
co`n o*? My~ chi? la` nhu*~ng co^ng ty con(nhu*ng to ho*n cg^ ty me.) 
ma` tho^i . Ba'c ma('ng Cow Boy My~ to^.i nghie^.p!!!!  
>
>
>>To^i sa(~n sa`ng trao ddo^?i y' kie^'n vo*'i ca'c ba'c be^n nha` ve^` 
>>nhu*~ng tho^ng tin lie^n he^. dde^'n va^'n dde^` processing and 
>>development a drug dde^? ba?o ve^. quye^`n lo*i. cho VN. 
>
>	Mi`nh la` nhu+~ng ngu+o+`i co' kinh nghie^.m chuye^.n 
>na`y cho ne^n ca^`n pha?i ma'ch cho ca'c ba'c be^n VN. Va` 
>to^i hoan nghe^nh chi. DQ trong vie^.c na`y.

 Nhu*ng co' ai nho*` mi`nh dda^u ha? ba'c ???? Ba('t dda^u` vo*'i ai va` 
tu*` dda^u ? ???????? Co' ba'c na`o bie^'t ma'ch giu'p la`m phu*o*'c!

>
>> Ba'c Tua^'n, ne^'u qua? tha^.t la` "tha^`n du*o*.c" thi` $400,000 
dda^u 
>>co' lo*'n! Tuy la` lo*'n ddo^'i vo*'i grant nghie^n cu*'u. 
>
>	Tro+`i o+i, to^i dda~ ba la^`n xin tie^`n NIH va` chi? 
>tha`nh co^ng co' mo^.t la^`n va` so^' tie^`n chi? ba(`ng so^' 
>le~ cu?a 400K, ne^n to^i tha^'y la` mu+`ng ro^`i :). Nhu+ng 
>nhu+ chi. no'i ddo', ne^'u la` wonder drug thi` so^' tie^`n 
>na`y cha(?ng la` bao nhie^u.
>

 Ba'c no'i nhu* the^' na`y la` ddo^`ng y' vo*'i ca^u cu?a to^i chu*' ?
>

>	Mo^.t ddie^`u ca^`n chu' y' nu+~a la` ne^'u muo^'n 
>ho+.p ddo^`ng vo+'i ca'c co^ng ty du+o+.c dde^? sa?n xua^'t 
>ha`ng loa.t (mass production) thi` pha?i qua clinical trials, 
>FDA (food drug agency - "hung tha^`n" cu?a ca'c co^ng ty 
>du+o+.c) phie^`n phu+'c va` to^'n ke'm la('m, chu+' kho^ng 
>ddo+n gia?n nhu+ ca'c ba'c be^n VN tu+o+?ng dda^u. 
>
>	Ta^'t ca? ca'c thu+? nghie^.m pha?i qua:
>
>	(a) animal study tru+o+'c he^'t
>	(b) dose-response study dde^? ti`m ra ca'i optimal dose
>	(c) ro^`i mo+'i to+'i thu+? nghie^.m tre^n con ngu+o+`i
>
>va` ngay ca? muo^'n thu+? nghie^.m tre^n human, ca^`n pha?i 
>la`m theo ddie^`u le^. cu?a The Helsinki Declaration 1969 
>ha(?n ho`i, va` be^.nh nha^n pha?i ky' te^n ddo^`ng y' va` 
>co' ngu+o+`i la`m ba(`ng chu+'ng. Cuo^.c thu+? nghie^.m pha?i 
>ddu+o+.c design va` ti'nh toa'n tru+o+'c, pha?i ddu+o+.c 
>mo^.t ho^.i ddo^`ng ethics cho phe'p (kho^ng bie^'t be^n VN 
>ta co' ethics committee kho^ng nhi?). So^' lie^.u thu tha^.p 
>trong thu+? nghie^.m pha?i ddu+o+.c pha^n ti'ch properly va` 
>publish cho international community bie^'t.
>
>	To^i tha^'y ca'c ba'c be^n VN la`m "ba.o" qua'. Nhu+~ng 
>thu+? nghie^.m ma` to^i ddo.c ddu+o+.c tre^n ba'o, ne^'u dda~ 
>xa?y ra tha^.t (ma` to^i tin la` va^.y) thi` pha?i no'i la` 
>kho^ng ddu+o+.c ETHICAL ma^'y. DDa^u pha?i muo^'n thu+? 
>thuo^'c cho ai la` la`m de^~ da`ng nhu+ va^.y ddu+o+.c.

***** Hoa`n toa`n nha^'t tri' vo*'i ba'c ve^` ddie^?m na`y!
>
>	To^i co`n nho+' lu'c to^i co`n la`m cho trung ta^m 
>Clinical Research o+? Basle, loa.i thuo^'c Cyclosporin 
>(Sandimun) la` loa.i thuo^'c du`ng cho organ transplantation, 
>pha?i ma^'t ngo't 20 na(m tu+` lu'c kha'm pha' cho to+'i 
>marketing!
>
>	DDu+o+`ng co`n da`i dde^? ho^'t ba.c trie^.u!

****** Va^ng, ta.i My~ cu~ng ma^'t khoa?ng 10 na(m (trung bi`nh) va` chi 
phi' khoa?ng 100 trie^.u do^ la dde^? ddu*a mo^.t hoa' cha^'t mo*'i 
tha`nh thuo^'c ba'n tre^n thi. tru*o*`ng .

 Ca'i quan tro.ng la` Contract ta ky' vo*'i ho. va` release ownership 
cho ha~ng thuo^'c dde^? ho. develop tha`nh thuo^'c ba'n . Tuy` theo 
ddie^`u kie^.n dda~ thoa? thua^.n va` ky'.
 THeo to^i hie^?u khi ba'c nha^.n grant cu?a ho. ne^'u co' gi` pha'y 
minh mo*'i thi` NIH (no*i cho grant) cu~ng co' ownership trong patent 
nghie^n cu*'u ddo' va^.y . Ba'c nghi~ sao ?
 Regards
 DQ
>
>	Tua^'n
>



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