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Re: QT



Hi ba'c Huy,

>>From: "HUY DUONG" <huy.duong@ctsu.ox.ac.uk>
>>Reply-To: vnsa@list-server.net
>>To: vnsa@List-Server.net
>>Subject: QT
>>Date: Wed, 24 Nov 1999 11:14:42 +0000
>>
>>Hi, ba'c TA,
>>
>> >  The^' co' ddoa.n ddo' kho^ng ba'c Huy?-:),
>>
>>Tui kho^ng tha^'y -doa.n -do' (-doa.n no'i ve^` chu+a bo?
>>qt VN ma` co' qt ngoa.i thi` ra sao).

  Tu+` tru+o+'c dde^'n nay lua^.n ddie^?m cu?a ba'c Huy la` lua^.t qt VN co' 
lo^~ ho^?ng, no'i "chi? co' 1 qt" ma` va^~n "cha^'p nha^.n" qt2, va^~n 
"dde^? ma(.c/coi nhu+ ca'c ba'c la` c/da^n VN". To^i chi? ra cho^~ sai cu/a 
ba'c, la` thu+.c te^' dde^`u kho^ng co' ca? 2 ddie^`u ddo'. Chu'ng ta dde^`u 
chu+a ro~ tu+`ng ca^u chu+~ ca'i lua^.t ddo' ra sao, ba'c nghe la.i tu+` 
ba'o, va` to^i cho ne^'u nghe thie^'u thi` kho^ng the^? ke^'t lua^.n 
ddu+o+.c gi`.

>>
>> >hay ba'c die^~n di.ch
>> >ddie^`u ngu+o+.c la.i tu+` lo+`i pho?ng va^'n o^ng quan chu+'c?
>>
>>No, ba'c kho^ng hie^?u. Vd la` me^'u ba'c muo^'n "ke^'t a'n"
>>la` ne^'u tui va`o qt ngoa.i thi` theo lua^.t pha'p tui bi. tu+o+'c
>>qt VN thi` ba'c pha?i pha?i prove -die^`u -do', eg kie^'m
>>-du+o+.c va` -du+a ra 1 -die^`u lua^.t no'i the^' hay present
>>irrefutable legal arguments. Kho^ng pha?i la` tui pha?i
>>chu+'ng minh la` kho^ng to^`n ta.i -die^`u lua^.t -do', vv.

  Dda^u co' ai "ke^'t a'n", ngay ca? vi' du. lua^.t Ma~ lai cu~ng la` 
irrelevant, vi` ca^u "tu+. ddo^.ng ma^'t qt" ddo' (ma` ba'c nghi la` lua^.t 
VN kho^ng co', ro^`i ba('t to^i ti`m) kho^ng co' nghi~a la` ho. trace 
ddu+o+.c nhu+~ng ai dda~ va`o qt mo+'i, ro^`i gu+?i thu+ ba'o "anh dda~ 
ma^'t qt Ma~ lai", tha^.t funny-:).
  VN cu~ng the^', khi ba'c co' vie^.c ddo`i quye^`n co^ng da^n Vn, ba'c 
mo+'i hay (va` ngu+o+`i ta mo+'i hay ba'c co' qt kha'c) la` mi`nh kho^ng 
co`n la` c/da^n VN nu+~a.
   Kho^ng ai "ke^'t a'n", ba^y gio+` ba'c la`m ddo+n xin tho^i qt VN dda^u 
co' ai pha?n ddo^'i!

>> >To^i suy ddu'ng chu+', ba'c Huy chi? co`n nghi~ mi`nh la` "c/da^n
>> >VN" tre^n mo^~i "danh nghi~a"-:), tre^n thu+.c te^' ba'c kho^ng
>> >ddu+o+.c ca^'p passport VN, kho^ng co' quye^`n cu~ng nhu+ nghi~a vu.
>> >co^ng da^n gi` he^'t, cho dde^'n khi ba'c ho^`i hu+o+ng.
>>
>>:-).
>>
>>Thi` tui -da~ no'i tu+` la^u ro^`i la` pha'p ly' VN kho^ng no'i
>>la` chu'ng to^i bi. tu+o+'c qt (ie co`n la` cd VN tre^n danh
>>nghia~). Tui -da^u co' no'i la` chu'ng to^i la` tre^n thu+.c te^'
>>chu'ng to^i -du+o+.c -do^'i xu+? nhu+ cd -da^u.
>>  Ba'c suy -du'ng va^.y ma` ba'c cu~ng ca~i :-).

  Ba'c Huy du+.a va`o chu+~ nghi~a ba`i pho?ng va^'n kia va` no'i lua^.t VN 
tra'i khoa'y vo+'i lo+`i quan chu+'c, trong khi chu'ng ta dde^`u chu+a co' 
ba?n lua^.t. To^i ddu+a ra ca'c vi' du. thu+.c te^' dde^? no'i chu+~ "1 qt" 
va^~n thu+.c hie^.n.

>>
>> >DDie^`u ddo' co' kha'c gi` "tu+o+'c  quo^'c ti.ch"?
>>
>>Co' kha'c o+? cho^~ la` nha` nu+o+'c kho^ng no'i la`
>>"tu+o+'c qt" -de^? khi na`o nha` nu+o+'c tha^'y
>>"va^~n co`n qt VN" co' lo+.i cho nha` nu+o+'c thi` nha`
>>nu+o+'c mang no' ra du`ng.

  Sao la.i co' chuye^.n na`y? "qt VN" lo+.i gi` cho nha` nu+o+'c va^.y? 
Dda^u pha?i vi` kho^ng co' "qt VN" ma` ca'c ba'c so+. kho^ng da'm ve^` 
nu+o+'c du li.ch, la`m a(n. Ne^'u ca'c ba'c xin bo? qt ma` ngu+o+`i ta cu` 
nha(`ng kho^ng cho mo+'i dda'ng nghi chu+'? Ho+n nu+~a tre^n thu+.c te^' 
kha'c bie^.t giu~a VK va` co^ng da^n VN (chi? co' 1 qt) ra^'t ro~ ra`ng.

>>Thi` co' ai no'i la` passport chi? co' 1 use -da^u.
>>Nhu+ng -da^u co' ca^`n pha?i du`ng he^'t nhu+~ng uses
>>cua? no' mo+'i muo^'n xin.

  La.i phi logic -:). Dda^u pha?i chi? ca^`n 1 ca'i use cu?a passport la` 
ddo`i xin no'-:)! Ngu+o+`i ta sa(~n sa`ng ca^'p visa da`i ha.n , hay co' 
the^? multiple-entry.
  Tho+`i xu+a thi` nhie^`u khi DHS xin visa cu~ng kho' (ne^'u ve^` nu+o+'c 
kho^ng ddu'ng ky` nghi?, kho^ng co' so^? ddie^?m cu?a tru+o+`ng va` chu+'ng 
nha^.n cu?a qua?n ly' DHS, tu+'c la` chu+a cha('c de^~ ho+n VK dda^u).
  Cheers,
  Tuan Anh.

P.S. Ba'c DX chi? ngo^`i ddo' khi'ch-:), to^i co' va`o trang web cu?a ca? 
la~nh su+. qua'n la^~n embassy nhu+ng kho^ng tha^'y dda^`y ddu? ca'i lua^.t 
1 qt, va` la~nh su+. cu~ng chi? lo chuye^.n visa, ho^`i hu+o+ng, bo? qt, xin 
passport, ho. kho^ng cha('c la('m tho+`i gio+` ca~i/gia?i thi'ch qua' 
nhie^`u khi'a ca.nh nhu+ o+? dda^y.

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