Re: Tro.ng nam kinh nu+~, Tam to`ng etc.

[Dung Trong Nguyen <nguyen@jaist.ac.jp>]

Hi ba'c Tie^'n va` ca'c ba'c,

Tran Minh Tien <tran@idefix.mpipks-dresden.mpg.de> wrote:

> Cha`o ca'c ba'c,
> 
> To^i luo^n ca?m tha^'y ro+.n ve^` vie^.c du`ng tu+` cu?a 
> ca'c ba'c\. Ne^'u ca'c ba'c kho^ng ro~, Kho^?ng gia'o co'
> da.y ngu+o+`i ta "tro.ng nam kinh nu+~" hay kho^ng thi`
> ca'c ba'c ddu+`ng co' no'i "dde^. tu+? Kho^?ng gia'o" ...

To^i ddo.c tha^'y Kho^?ng tu+? nhie^`u ho.c tro` la('m, to^i the'c
me'c la` sao ho^?ng tha^'y o^?ng co' nu+~ dde^. tu+?  cho vui nhi?.
O^?ng kho^ng chi.u da.y chi. em hay chi. em kho^ng co' chi.u ho.c
o^?ng.  Hay o^?ng co' ma` to^i kho^ng bie^'t?

> Ca'c ba'c cu~ng cho+' co' ma` va'c "da^n gian" ra dda^y,
> "da^n gian" thi` ddu? loa.i tu+` loa.i gie^'t ngu+o+`i,
> tro^.m ca('p dde^'n ba^.c tha'nh nha^n\. Ca'c ba'c cu~ng
> cho+' co' ma` mang kinh nghie^.m ca' nha^n ra dda^y, the^'
> gio+'i co' 5 ty? ngu+o+`i thi` co' 5 ty? kinh nghie^.m
> ca' nha^n\.

The^' thi` theo ba'c chi? ddu+o+.c no'i theo sa'ch tho^i a`?  Sa'ch
kho^ng co' dde^? tra cu+'u thi` tho^i kho^ng no'i gi` a`?  To^i
tu+o+?ng ngu+o+`i ta bie^'t no'i tru+o+'c khi bie^'t vie^'t cho+'.
Nhu+ng kho' la` o+?  cho^~ kho^ng no'i la^'y ddu+o+.c co+\.

> Ba^y gio+` tra? lo+`i ca'c  My ve^` "tam to`ng".
> Cha('c  cha('n la` to^i hie^?u "to`ng" kha'c ba'c
> nhie^`u la('m. Nhu+ng ba'c muo^'n hie^?u the^' thi`
> tu`y ba'c.

Hi`hi`... ba'c cu+' no'i co' ly' la` to^i hie^?u theo ba'c tho^i .

> * To`ng phu.: va^ng lo+`i cha me. (kho^ng co' vie^'t
> ma^~u va`o dda^y, nhu+ng phu-phu. la` 1 trong 5 lua^n,
> ne^n va^ng lo+`i cha tu+'c la` va^ng lo+`i me.). Va^ng
> lo+`i kho^ng co' nghi~a cha me. ba?o che^'t thi` pha?i
> che^'t\. Ca'c ba'c co' the^? ddo.c chuye^.n ve^` Ta(ng
> Sa^m thi` ro~\.
>
> * To`ng phu: cu`ng vo+'i cho^`ng\. Co' nghi~a la^'y cho^`ng
> thi` pha?i cu`ng cho^`ng xa^y du+.ng gia ddi`nh, cho+'
> kho^ng pha?i la^'y cho^`ng chi? lo ca'i tha^n mi`nh, tha^y
> ke^. gia ddi`nh\.
>
> * To`ng tu+?: nuo^i con. Cho^`ng che^'t thi` pha?i thay cho^`ng
> nuo^i con, cho+' kho^ng pha?i qua(?ng con lie^'m la' ngoa`i
> cho+. dde^? ddi vo+'i giai\. Kho^ng co' ai ca^'m phu. nu+~
> ta'i gia' khi cho^`ng che^'t ca?, nhu+ng co' la^'y cho^`ng
> mo+'i thi` va^~n pha?i co' tra'ch nhie^.m nuo^i con cho^`ng\.

Gia?i thi'ch nhu+ ba'c thi` nghe xuo^i tai qua'.  Nhu+ng nam gio+'i
cu~ng ne^n the^' mo+'i pha?i cho+', cha(?ng ha.n ta.i gia to`ng me.,
la^'y vo+. to`ng vo+., vo+. che^'t to`ng con?.  Hay ca'c o^?ng hie^?u
ro~ tra'ch nhie^.m ho+n ca'c ba? ne^n kho?i ca^`n mu+o+.n Kho^?ng
gia'o da.y kho^n ?

> Tuy va^.y Nho gia'o co' pha^n bie^.t nam nu+~\. Ma.nh tu+?
> ba?o "phu phu. pha^n bie^.t", co' nghi~a la` cho^`ng pha?i
> ra cho^`ng, vo+. pha?i ra vo+., kho^ng co' lo^.n xo^.n lung
> tung, vi' nhu+ khi la`m ti`nh thi` cho^`ng pha?i la` cho^`ng,
> vo+. pha?i la` vo+., kho^ng the^? thay ddo^?i cho nhau ddu+o+.c\.

Pha^n bie^.t nhu+ ba'c thi` hi`hi`... nha` to+' tu+. la`m ddu+o+.c :)

> Tu+. nhie^n dda~ pha^n bie^.t nam, nu+~ thi` xa~ ho^.i cu~ng
> pha?i pha^n bie^.t nam, nu+~, kho^ng the^? dde^? nam la`m nu+~,
> nu+~ la`m nam ddu+o+.c. Pha^n bie^.t nam nu+~ kho^ng co' nghi~a
> la` tro.ng nam khinh nu+~\.

OK. Nha` to+' co' ma^'y the'c me'c the^' na`y:

Xa~ ho^.i phong kie^'n sau na`y co' theo tinh tha^`n cu?a Kho^?ng
gia'o kho^ng ?  Ne^'u co' thi` trong xa~ ho^.i ddo':

-/ Nam nu+~ co' bi`nh dda(?ng ve^` co+ ho^.i tie^'n tha^n trong xa~
ho^.i kho^ng ?  Ne^'u gia? thie^'t vua quan la` lo+'p tho^'ng
tri. thi` nu+~ co' ddu+o+.c ddi thi dde^? ra la`m quan kho^ng ?

-/ Nam nu+~ co' bi`nh dda(?ng trong ho^n pho^'i kho^ng?  Nam ddu+o+.c
la^'y nhie^`u vo+., nu+~ la^'y nhie^`u cho^`ng co' ddu+o+.c kho^ng ?

-/ Nam nu+~ co' bi`nh dda(?ng tru+o+'c pha'p lua^.t hay kho^ng ?  Ne^'u
bi. cu`ng mo^.t to^.i thi` co' bi. xu+? nhu+ nhau kho^ng ?  Vi' du.:
Co' con ngoa`i gia' thu' (nghe no'i co' khi nu+~ bi. go.t dda^`u bo^i
vo^i).

-/ Vo+. cho^`ng co' bi`nh dda(?ng hay kho^ng ?  Ai la` ngu+o+`i co'
quye^`n quye^'t ddi.nh.  Cho^`ng xu+o+'ng vo+. tuy` co' ddu'ng kho^ng ?

-/ Cha me. co' coi tro.ng con trai va` con ga'i ngang nhau kho^ng ?
Con ga'i co' ddu+o+.c "no^'i do~i to^ng ddu+o+`ng" hay kho^ng ?  Co'
ddu+o+.c co+ ho^.i ho.c ha`nh nhu+ con trai hay kho^ng ?

Ta.m bie^.t ba'c o+? dda^y nghen .  Chu'c ba'c ma.nh khoe?.

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