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VNSA-L digest 285
VNSA-L Digest 285
Topics covered in this issue include:
1) Re[2]: Math problem
by "Joseph Nguyen" <Joseph_Nguyen@bmc.boehringer-mannheim.com>
2) Re: China & Vietnam
by Buulong Nguyen <buulong@dutmpw1.tudelft.nl>
3) Re: China & Vietnam
by "Thai Nguyen" <tinguyen@nortel.ca>
4) Re: Co^.ng ddo^`ng VN o+? Nga
by Minh Vu Huynh <huynm000@goofy.zdv.Uni-Mainz.de>
5) Hi, EUROPE-VIETNAM Conference
by Vu Xuan Quang <h9451817@falbala.wu-wien.ac.at>
6) Re: Re[2]: Math problem
by Pham Thi Thanh Hong <smm68490@ait.ac.th>
7) China & Vietnam
by huy.duong@ctsu.ox.ac.uk
8) tho+ Nga
by Minh Vu Huynh <huynm000@goofy.zdv.Uni-Mainz.de>
9) To^i kho^ng nha^.n ddu+o+.c E-mail
by "Toan" <toan@usa.net>
10) tie^'ng Vie^.t (reply to ba'c Toa`n)
by Nguyen Tien Zung <tienzung@darboux.math.univ-montp2.fr>
11) Re: VN contra China
by Sonnet Nguyen <Sonnet.Nguyen@fuw.edu.pl>
12) Re[4]: Math problem
by "Joseph Nguyen" <Joseph_Nguyen@bmc.boehringer-mannheim.com>
13) Re: China & Vietnam
by Buulong Nguyen <buulong@dutmpw1.tudelft.nl>
14) Re: What is interesting in Physics
by Tuan Anh Tran <tat1821@unix.tamu.edu>
15) Chuye^.n cu+o+`i ve^` Trung Quo^'c
by AnHai Doan <anhai@cs.washington.edu>
16) Re: [Viet-Khsv: 4368] Ti'nh ca'ch ngu+o+`i ... ta (human beings) (fwd)
by AnHai Doan <anhai@cs.washington.edu>
17) Re: Ba'o VN: Gia?i vo^ ddi.ch ha.ng nha^'t Quo^c gia
by AnHai Doan <anhai@cs.washington.edu>
18) Re: Ca^`n giu'p:Tu+. ddie^?n Lac Vie^.t EVA
by "Caotri Nguyen" <caotri@axis.jeack.com.au>
19) Re: Trang Web giu'p na.p/du`ng tie^'ng Vie^.t
by "Caotri Nguyen" <caotri@axis.jeack.com.au>
20) Anyone around San Francisco?
by AnHai Doan <anhai@cs.washington.edu>
21) China &Vietnam
by Tuan Pham <tuan.pham@unsw.edu.au>
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Topic No. 1
Date: Wed, 19 Mar 97 10:28:37 EST
From: "Joseph Nguyen" <Joseph_Nguyen@bmc.boehringer-mannheim.com>
To: vnsa-l@csd.uwm.edu
Subject: Re[2]: Math problem
Message-ID: <9702198587.AA858784714@smtplink.ar.bmc>
Hi Hong,
You overcounted the number of numbers that divisible of 7 in the group of
numbers divisible of 49.
there are at least 100 7's in 700!
>From 1 to 700 there are 1 7^2 (49) and 1 7^3 (343). So, we heve 103 7's in
700! we need only 100 7's.
100 - 3 = 97. and so, the least number should be 7*97 = 679
______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________
Subject: Re: Math problem
Author: vnsa-l@csd.uwm.edu at SMTP
Date: 3/19/97 9:23 AM
Hi Tuan,
On Wed, 19 Mar 1997, Tuan V Nguyen wrote:
> Hello Thu Huong and Thanh Hong,
>
> You are very smart, that is the correct number (679). But, you have
> not told us how did you arrive at the number! Please do.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Tuan V Nguyen
>
As my algorithm, count from 1 to 609, there are 87 numbers that is
indivisable for 7, such as 602, 595, 588, and so on. Among these numbers,
there are 12 numbers that is divisable for 49 ( = 7*7) such as 588, 539,..
and the number of 343 is equal 7*7*7. Thus, 609! will divisable for
7^(87+12+1 = 100).
Could you test whether this algorithm is true or not?
Cheers,
Hong.
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Topic No. 2
Date: Wed, 19 Mar 1997 16:20:27 +0100 (MET)
From: Buulong Nguyen <buulong@dutmpw1.tudelft.nl>
To: vnsa-l@csd.uwm.edu
Subject: Re: China & Vietnam
Message-ID: <Pine.HPP.3.91.970319145103.6171B@dutmpw3.tudelft.nl>
Cha`o ca'c ba'c,
Ba'c Huy vie^'t la`:
> Tui kho^ng bie^'t the Commonwealth co' hie^.p u+o+'c defence kho^ng?
I would like to know too. Co' ba'c na`o bie^'t thi` chi.u kho' le^n
tie^'ng vo+'i.
> Va` ne^'u mi`nh muo^'n mi`nh co' the^? mang ca'i commonwealth ra
> ta'n ti?nh anh Pha'p.
Good idea! I only don't know if France will be ready to put in their
military forces. Tu.i Pha'p co' ve~ nhu+ muo^'n co' tie^'ng nhu+ng i't
chi.u "to be really involved" va`o nhu+~ng vu. xung ddo^.t qua^n su+. .,
ne^'u nhu+ kho^ng ddu+o+.c hu+o+~ng lo+.i cu. the^?.
Ca^u ho?i la`: Pha'p se~ ddu+o+.c gi` ne^'u giu+o+ng chie^'c o^ qua^n su+.
ra che cho VN? Mo^.t die^`u cha('c cha('n la` tu.i Ta`u se~ cao gio.ng doa.
ve^` "nhu+~ng ha^u qua? kho^ng lu+o+`ng tru+o+'c ddu+o.c trong quan he^.
kinh te^' song phu+o+ng" Gio^'ng nhu+ ho^`i Pha'p ddi.nh ba'n chie^'n
dda^'u co+ Mirage cho Taiwan ma^'y na(m ve^` tru+o+'c.
Tu.i ta`u kho^n vo^ cu`ng. Ne^'u tu.i no' ngu+?i tha^'y tu.i Pha'p ho+i
pha^n va^n mo^.t ti' la` tu.i no' se~ da^'n to+'i lie^`n.
Tuy va^.y, cu+' thu+? ta'n ti?nh la~o gia` Pho+`-ra(ng xem sau.
Tu.i Hoa`lan hay no'i: "No - you have got already, you might still get
'yes'"
Co' ddie^`u tui tha('c ma('c la` kho^ng hie^?u ca'c quo^'c gia tha`nh
vie^n cu?a commonwealth co' pha?i ho^.i ddu? mo^.t so^' ddie^`u kie^.n
na`o ddo' ve^` the^? che^' chi'nh tri. va co+ che^' nha` nu+o+'c kho^ng
nhi?.
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Topic No. 3
Date: 19 Mar 1997 09:55 EST
From: "Thai Nguyen" <tinguyen@nortel.ca>
To: vnsa-l@csd.uwm.edu
Subject: Re: China & Vietnam
Message-ID: <199703191526.JAA27157@batch1.csd.uwm.edu>
Ca'ch dda^y kho^ng la^u mi`nh co' ddo.c mo^.t ba`i no'i ra(`ng The^' Chie^'n
thu+' 3 se~ tu+` cuo^.c xung ddo^.t giu+~a VN va` Ta`u ra va`o na(m 2005. Lu'c
ddo.c mi`nh chi? cu+o+`i nghi~ ra(`ng la.i mo^.t anh muo^'n cho+i Nostradamus
nu+~a ro^`i va^.y ma` ba^y gio+` nghe ca'c anh no'i dde^'n chie^'n la`m mi`nh
dda^m lo. Tru+o+'c khi ca'c nu+o+'c Cha^u A^u va`o Cha^u A', Ta`u dda~ ba`nh
tru+o+'ng o+? ddo' ro^`i, sau ho+n 100 na(m ngoa(.c ke'p Cha^u A^u thi` gio+`
the^' gio+'i Cha^u A' la.i tro+? la.i nhu+ tru+o+'c. Que^n ma^'t ai dda~ no'i
ca^u na`y: "Nu+o+'c Vie^.t co' lu'c ye^'u co' lu'c ma.nh nhu+ng kho^ng bao gio+`
thie^'u anh hu`ng", mong sao ca^u a^'y luo^n luo^n ddu'ng.
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Topic No. 4
Date: Wed, 19 Mar 1997 16:33:17 +0100
From: Minh Vu Huynh <huynm000@goofy.zdv.Uni-Mainz.de>
To: vnsa-l@csd.uwm.edu
Subject: Re: Co^.ng ddo^`ng VN o+? Nga
Message-ID: <199703191533.QAA12192@marie.zdv.Uni-Mainz.DE>
Cha`o ca? la`ng,
dde^? tra? lo+`i ca^u ho?i :
Ngu+o+`i Vie^.t Ta.i Nga Se~ Ve^` DDa^u\?
thi` chi? ngu+o+`i VN o+? Nga mo+'i co' the^? tra? lo+`i ddu+o+.c , ma(.c du`
ra^'t nhie^`u ngu+o+`i lu+u ta^m dde^'n va^'n dde^` ddo'.
Ta.i sao co^.ng ddo^`ng ngu+o+`i VN o+? Nga ddu+o+.c su+. u+u a'i nhu+ va^.y.
Xin thu+a, co^.ng ddo^`ng o+? Nga la` co^.ng ddo^`ng ma.nh nha^'t trong ca'c
nu+o+'c DDo^ng A^u cu~ (ca? ve^` kinh te^', la^~n lu+.c lu+o+.ng), co' giao
lu+u nhie^`u vo+'i VN (trong buo^n ba'n cu~ng nhu+ quan he^. gia ddi`nh, ba.n
be`...). Ngoa`i ra co^.ng ddo^`ng o+? Nga cu~ng la` co^.ng ddo^`ng kho^? cu+.c
nha^'t , pha^`n lo+'n kho^ng co' status o^?n ddi.nh . Ne^'u Chu'a Gie^su ma`
chinh phu.c ddu+o+.c tra'i tim ngu+o+`i VN o+? Nga , thi` Thie^n chu'a gia'o
o+? VN ha(?n se~ tu+o+i le^n. Dda~ co' ai ddi hu+o+'ng dda.o o+? Nga chu+a?
DDu+'ng tre^n mo.i con ti'nh thi` ai cha? muo^'n
giu'p ddo+~ ddo^`ng ba`o trong "kho' kha(n" trong kha? na(ng cu?a mi`nh.
Qua nhie^`u la^`n no'i chuye^.n vo+' ba.n be` o+? Nga, to^i ca?m nha^.n ddu+o+.c
ra(`ng pha^`n lo+'n ngu+o+`i VN o+? Nga kho^ng co' y' ddi.nh o+? la^u da`i
tre^n que^ hu+o+ng Le^nin (o^ng Le^ co`n pha?i bo? que^ sang Ha` no^.i ddu+'ng
du+o+'i co^.t co+` nu+~a la`), ne^n i't ngu+o+`i co' con ti'nh da`i ho+i .
La` hi`nh a?nh 1 XH VN thu nho? , ai cu~ng muo^'n la`m tie^`n nhanh kie^?u
chu.p gia^.t i't ngu+o+`i dda^`u tu+ va`o sa?n xua^'t, chu? ye^'u buo^n ddi
ba'n la.i . Ne^'u cu+' nhu+ the^' thi` trong tu+o+ng lai co^.ng ddo^`ng o+?
Nga se~ la` 1 Trust buo^n ba'n : tre^n ddi?nh la` va`i o^ng chu? buo^n si?
vo+'i 1 ddo^.i ngu~ ddo^ng dda?o ba'n le? .
No'i la` co^.ng ddo^`ng cho "oai" chu+' thu+.c ra ngu+o+`i VN be^n Nga co`n
tu+o+ng ddo^'i vo^ to^? chu+'c, chu+a ddoa`n ke^'t la.i ddu+o+.c dde^? vi'
du. co' ddu+o+.c 1 tie^'ng no'i chi'nh tri. dde^? ddo`i quye^`n lo+.i cu?a
mi`nh nhu+ quye^`n ddu+o+.c o+? la.i, quye^`n la`m a(n ddo^'i vo+'i chi'nh
quye^`n Nga. Khi na`o ngu+o+`i VN o+? Nga co`n chu+a ta^.p ho.p la.i ddu+o+.c,
thi` su+. "hy vo.ng Mong ra(`ng
ngu+o+`i Vie^.t o+? kha('p no+i se~ le^n tie^'ng go'p pha^`n thay
ddo^?i ca?nh ngo^. cua? ngu+o+`i Vie^.t ta.i Nga hie^.n nay\." ma~i chi? la`
1 a?o tu+o+?ng ma` tho^i.
Tha^n,
Vu~
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Topic No. 5
Date: Wed, 19 Mar 1997 16:40:14 -0500
From: Vu Xuan Quang <h9451817@falbala.wu-wien.ac.at>
To: vnsa-l@csd.uwm.edu
Subject: Hi, EUROPE-VIETNAM Conference
Message-ID: <33305D3E.14AF@falbala.wu-wien.ac.at>
Hi, all friends and colleagues,
Greetings and best wishes to all of you from Vu Xuan Quang.
I received news from one friend that there will be The 3th EUROVIET
Conference in July 2-4, 1997. This conference will be hold in University
of Amsterdam (Universiteit van Amsterdam). The International Institute
for Asian Studies and The Centre for Asian Studies Amsterdam will play
host for this conference.
The EUROVIET is the leading interdisciplinary association of Vietnam
specialists in Europe in the social sciences and the Humanities. The
conference attracts historians, economists, sociologists,
anthropologists, political scientists, demographers and geographers.
Scholars from Vietnam, Europe, Asia, the United States and Austrralia
will come to the conference.
I think, many of us already know about EUROVIET and this coming
conference. But perhaps, some others may not hear about this schedule.
Hopefuly, this news may be of use for us.
The announcement of this conference is a little bit long, so I want to
address hereunder only names and add.s of panel co-ordinators. Who,
those are interested in, should contact the co-ordinators for more
details:
Panels and Panel Co-ordinators
* History and Historical Geography:
Dr P. Le Failler and Dr J.-M. Mancini,
Université de Provence
29, Av. Robert Schumann
13621 Aix-en-Provence Cedex 1
France.
* Vietnam's Changing National Identity:
Dr S. Tonneson,
NIAS
Leifsgade 33
2300 Copenhagen S
Denmark
Fax: +45 32 962530, E-mail: sec@nias.ku.dk or 100411.3260@compuserve.com
* Health and Health related Issues:
D. Finer
Dept. of Public Health Sciences
Division of International Healthcare Research (IHCAR)
Karolinska Institutet
17177 Stockholm
Sweden
E-mail: David.Finer@phs.ki.se
* Religion and Religious Revival:
Dr J. Kleinen, UvA,
Anthropological Institute
Oudezijds Achterburgwal 185
1012 DK Amsterdam
the Netherlands
Fax: +31 20 5253010, E-mail: jgk@sara.nl
* Current Issues in Vietnam's Uplands:
please contact the Euroviet-convenor: jgk@sara.nl
* The Role of Women and their Links to the Nation:
Dr Truong Thanh Dam (ISS)
Institute of Social Studies
P.O.Box 29776
2502 LT The Hague
the Netherlands,
Tel: +31-70 4260460, Fax: +31-70 4260799, E-mail: postmaster@iss.nl
* Economics:
A. Ngoc Tran, Ph.D (USA) and Dang Phong (Hanoi),
1404 Simpson Court
Marina, CA 93933
United States of America
Tel:(408)384 1355 (home: Phone & Fax), (408)582 3753 (office), E-mail:
angie_tran@monterey.edu
* Education/Changing Role of Language:
vacant, contact the Conference Organizers.
* Labor Relations and Issues:
Dr I. Norlund (Copenhagen); X. Oudin (Hanoi),
NIAS
Leifsgade 33
2300 Copenhagen S
Denmark
Fax: +45 32 962530, Fax Hanoi: +84-4 8230573.
* Politics:
Prof. Dr A.J. Dommen
The Indochina Institute
George Mason University
7716 Radnor Road
Bethesda, MD 20817-6282
United States of America
* Migration/Immigration:
vacant, contact the Conference Organizers.
* Rural Development:
Dr P. Papin (EFEO, Hanoi); Dr J. Kleinen (UvA)
Centre de l'Ecole Française d'Extreme Orient en R.S.V.N.
5A Rue Ha Hoi
Hanoi
Vietnam
Fax: +84 4 8220625, E-mail: efeovn@netnam.org, vn@postbox.anu.edu.au or
jgk@sara.nl
* Urbanisation and Regionalisation:
Dr C. Taillard (Lasema, Paris); Dr Nguyen Duc Nhuan (Paris VII)
LASEMA-UPR 297
22 rue d'Athènes
75009 Paris
France
Tel: +33 1 44530406.
* Hanoi: Socio-Economic and Social-Spatial Responses to Change:
Dr H. Schenk (UvA); Dr R. Feddema (UvA) Planologisch & Demografisch
Instituut
Nieuwe Prinsengracht 120
1018 VZ Amsterdam
the Netherlands
Fax: +31-20 5254041, E-mail: schenk@ivip.frw.uva.nl
* Environmental Issues:
Drs H. Heuveling-Van Beek
The Rainforest Project Foundation
Damrak 68 III
1012 LM Amsterdam
the Netherlands
Fax: +31-20 6240588, E-mail: trp@euronet.nl
* International Relations:
Prof.Dr C. Thayer (Australian Defence Force Academy Australia); Dr R.
Amer (Uppsala) Australian Defence
Force Academy
Canberra ACT 2601
Australia
Fax: +61-6 2688852, E-mail: cat@adfa.oz.au, Fax in Europe (R.Amer):
+46-18 695102.
* Vietnamese Diaspora:
Drs A. Christiaens (UCL)
LOUVAIN EURASIA
Place des Doyens 1
1348 Louvain la Neuve
Belgium
E-mail: eurasia@espo.ac.be
Ciao, Quang (h9451817@falbala.wu-wien.ac.at)
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Topic No. 6
Date: Wed, 19 Mar 1997 22:47:56 +0700 (GMT+0700)
From: Pham Thi Thanh Hong <smm68490@ait.ac.th>
To: Multiple recipients of list <vnsa-l@csd.uwm.edu>
Subject: Re: Re[2]: Math problem
Message-ID: <Pine.OSF.3.94.970319224431.29684A-100000@alphaserv.ait.ac.th>
Hi Joseph Nguyen,
On Wed, 19 Mar 1997, Joseph Nguyen wrote:
> Hi Hong,
>
> You overcounted the number of numbers that divisible of 7 in the group of
> numbers divisible of 49.
>
> there are at least 100 7's in 700!
> >From 1 to 700 there are 1 7^2 (49) and 1 7^3 (343). So, we heve 103 7's in
> 700! we need only 100 7's.
> 100 - 3 = 97. and so, the least number should be 7*97 = 679
>
How do you think about 98 (=2*49), 147 (3*49), 196 (=4*49), and so on?
Cheers,
Hong.
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Topic No. 7
Date: Wed, 19 Mar 1997 16:00:41 GMT
From: huy.duong@ctsu.ox.ac.uk
To: vnsa-l@csd.uwm.edu
Subject: China & Vietnam
Message-ID: <97031916004153@a2.ctsu.ox.ac.uk>
Dear friends,
>Chinese force could go to Hanoi or Sajgon, but it doesn't matter!
>VN-ses are also VN-ses. They do not (and never) become to Chineses,
>so chinanization doesn't work. (Chinanization could work perfectly
>in the territorium, in which are no VN-ses.)
You're not serious Sonnet Nguyen !!!
What happens actually in Tibet ??? I wouldn't like my country dropping
in the same situations !!!
Sonnet Nguyen is right here. Tibet has a small population, so it is
easy to subdue. Tibet has a large area and extremely low population density so
it is a worthwile return for the aggression. It is much harder to subdue and
absorb the 75mil people of Vietnam. And there is not much benefit in occupying
Vietnam if it is too crowded for Chinese to go there and live there and if
Vietnam has less natural resources than China. China would rather bite the juicy
bits of Vietnam than to swallow it whole. And when it come to war, China would
seek to wreak destruction on Vietnam but not annex it.
A land offensive has to fight through mountainous areas which Vietnam can defend
well and exact high costs on the attackers. These areas are also away from
population, industrial and commercial centres. The Chinese airforce is the most
effective way to wreak destruction on Vietnam. This is why I hope that Vietnam
has a strong air defence and a strong air force. A Vietnamese airforce with
anti-ship missiles and tactics can also defend the islands and sea in a way that
is more within Vietnam's grasp than buying and training a navy that can never
match China's. Vietnam has the advantage of air fields near the area of
conflicts and Chinese ships as yet have no air cover.
I think Vietnam should build up a good air force and then resist Chinese
aggression. It would be terrible to have to borrow passage from Malaysia to
have access to marintime trade.
Huy
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Topic No. 8
Date: Wed, 19 Mar 1997 17:16:41 +0100
From: Minh Vu Huynh <huynm000@goofy.zdv.Uni-Mainz.de>
To: vnsa-l@csd.uwm.edu
Subject: tho+ Nga
Message-ID: <199703191616.RAA14037@marie.zdv.Uni-Mainz.DE>
Cha`o ca'c ba'c,
ma^'y tua^`n tru+o+'c ddo.c ba`i cu?a Ha` Du+o+ng ho?i ve^` tho+ Nga,
nhu+ng vi` ba^.n vie^'t ba`i ne^n dde^'n gio+` mo+'i co' tho+`i gian
lu.c la.i ddo^'ng tho+ tha^?n cu~ dde^? ti`m ra va`i ba`i cho Ha` Du+o+ng
va` ca'c ba'c thu+o+?ng thu+'c.
Ca'nh buo^`m (Lecmo^nto^p)
Ca'nh buo^`m nho? ddo+n co^i tha^'P thoa'ng
Trong ma`n su+o+ng xa tha(?m cu?a bie^?n kho+i
Buo^`m ti`m chi no+i dda^'t kha'ch xa xo^i ?
Va` dde^? la.i nhu+~ng gi` no+i mie^`n que^ ye^u da^'u ?
Bie^?n cuo^.n so'ng, gio' ri't le^n ga`o the't
Co^.t buo^`m nghie^ng, lo`ng ddau ddo+'n kho^ng nguo^i
O^i ha.nh phu'c, buo^`m du+?ng du+ng la.nh le~o
Kho^ng kie^'m ti`m cu~ng cha(?ng dde^? buo^ng tro^i
Buo^`m lu+o+'t to+'i trong na('ng va`ng ra.ng cho'i
Giu+~a bie^?n xanh vo+`i vo+.i xa xo^i
Nhu+ng day du+'t, buo^`m ca^`u xin ba~o to^'
Nhu+ ti`m trong ba~o to^' su+. bi`nh ye^n
************************
Bo^ng hoa nho? (Puskin)
Giu+~a trang sa'ch cu~ ca'nh hoa na(`m
Hu+o+ng sa('c phai ta`n nha.t tha'ng na(m
Hoa bo^~ng tra`o le^n nie^`m tu+o+?ng vo.ng
U hoa`i trong da. u+'c mang mang
Hoa tu+` dda^u no+? ddo^. xua^n na`o
DDo+`i hoa nga('n ngu?i ddo^. la` bao
Ngo'n tay ai ha'i quen hay la.
Hoa bo^~ng na(`m dda^y duye^n co+' sao ?
He.n ho` ky? nie^.m cu?a ye^u thu+o+ng
Hay la.i chia pho^i le^. tha('m ddu+o+`ng
Hay giu+~a ru+`ng chie^`u be^n ruo^.ng va('ng
Mo^.t mi`nh tho+ tha^?n bu+o+'c yue^n u+o+ng
Ba^y gio+` ho. so^'ng ta^.n dda^u xa
Hay dda~ na(`m trong bu.i ca't nho`a
Hay cu~ng nhu+ hoa cu`ng so^' pha^.n
Dda~ ta`n, dda~ he'o , dda` pho^i pha .
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Topic No. 9
Date: Wed, 19 Mar 1997 13:36:02 -0500
From: "Toan" <toan@usa.net>
To: <vnsa-l@csd.uwm.edu>
Subject: To^i kho^ng nha^.n ddu+o+.c E-mail
Message-ID: <199703191819.NAA10797@ns.kreative.net>
Cha`o ca'c ba'c,
Ca'i mail server to^i bi. be^.nh ne^n qua nay kho^ng xem e-mail ddu+o+.c.
Co' gi` ca'c ba'c go+?i cho to^i o+? toan@kreative.net ta.m.
Ca?m o+n ca'c ba'c,
Toa`n
toan@kreative.net (ta.m)
(tru+o+'c nay la` toan@usa.net)
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Topic No. 10
Date: Wed, 19 Mar 1997 20:17:14 -0800
From: Nguyen Tien Zung <tienzung@darboux.math.univ-montp2.fr>
To: toan@usa.net, vnsa-l@csd.uwm.edu
Subject: tie^'ng Vie^.t (reply to ba'c Toa`n)
Message-ID: <3330BA4A.2498@math.univ-montp2.fr>
Cha`o ba'c Toa`n va` ca'c ba'c
Da.o na`y ba^.n bi.u kho^ng ta'n chuye^.n ddu+o+.c vo+'i ca'c ba'c
tuy tha^'y nhie^`u chuye^.n hay tre^n vnsa la('m, ngu+'a mo^`m la('m,
nha^'t la` chuye^.n "tha(`ng Ta^`u o^"
Ca'i ba'c Toa`n ho?i thi` the^' na`y: ba'c ba^'m va`o ca'i cho^~ co'
hi`nh 1 quye^?n sa'ch gio+? ra o+? phia' tre^n
trong chu+o+ng tri`nh cu?a La.c vie^.t, se~ co' cho^~ ghi la` cho.n
dda'nh tie^'ng Vie^.t hay tie^'ng Anh. Mo^.t so^' cho^~ kha'c cu~ng
cho phe'p ba'c ddo^?i giu+~a go~ tie^'ng Vie^.t va` Anh .
Ca'ch go~ cu?a La.c Vie^.t la` telex (hay vni cung~ ddu+o+.c?)
telex thi` aa tha`nh a^, ar -> a? , aj -> a., af -> a`, as -> a',
ax -> a~, aw -> a( ...
To^i co' 1 kho the^? ti'ch va`i tra(m MB tren web. Ba` con co' thi'ch
tui co' the^? chu+'a ca'c thu+' tie^'ng vie^.t o+? ddo' cho ba` con
ddu+o+.c (chi. so+. ca'c ba'c be^n Me~o che^ la` xu+' Ta^y xa qua')
Chu'c vui
Zung
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Topic No. 11
Date: Wed, 19 Mar 1997 19:40:37 +0100 (MET)
From: Sonnet Nguyen <Sonnet.Nguyen@fuw.edu.pl>
To: Multiple recipients of list <vnsa-l@csd.uwm.edu>
Subject: Re: VN contra China
Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.95.970319185706.14226A-100000@albert5>
Hi,
Of course, I was not funny when I suppose that Chinese force can go to
Hanoi and Sajgon. They don't do that not because they can not do
that, but they have no benifit (morely they lose a lost) for doing
agression in this way.
You can not compare Tibet to VN. VN is a big nation of 75 milions people
(30% of US population and 50% of Rusian population) and it's imposible
to destroy and China can not do everything like in Tybet.
VN is to dense for chinese ambition to expand their teritory. If they
really want to expand (a normal ambition of regional superpower), then
they look for Cybery (with only 8 milions rusians).
So VN-se earth's territorium is not attractive for China.
BUT VN-se sea (which is wrongly called by english: South Chine Sea) playes
a strategical rule for development economy, transport and global military.
Probably in near future, sea will be more explored (sea has not only
OIL and GAS, but sea is our future ... read SF!)
Of course, China don't want a total war with any country, because in fact
Chinese force is really weak. Many Chinese Military Ships are "out of
time". They enrich in the last time and now they have a lot money for
paying Rusians for new Ships and SU, MIGs.
My thesis is that if VN has weaker force in the earth and stronger force
in the sea, so it could be better. ( I do not demand more moneys for
military! Building a strong military potencial is unchanged element for
every country.)
Of course, stronger VN-se force guarantes a peace for VN. Stronger Force
is not for a war but for a peace.
SN
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Topic No. 12
Date: Wed, 19 Mar 97 14:05:23 EST
From: "Joseph Nguyen" <Joseph_Nguyen@bmc.boehringer-mannheim.com>
To: vnsa-l@csd.uwm.edu
Subject: Re[4]: Math problem
Message-ID: <9702198587.AA858797981@smtplink.ar.bmc>
Hi Hong,
>How do you think about 98 (=2*49), 147 (3*49), 196 (=4*49), and so on?
>Cheers,
>Hong.
hmm...you are right. my logic is bad.
cheers
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Topic No. 13
Date: Wed, 19 Mar 1997 20:24:42 +0100 (MET)
From: Buulong Nguyen <buulong@dutmpw1.tudelft.nl>
To: huy.duong@ctsu.ox.ac.uk
Cc: Multiple recipients of list <vnsa-l@csd.uwm.edu>
Subject: Re: China & Vietnam
Message-ID: <Pine.HPP.3.91.970319201155.9390A-100000@dutmpw3.tudelft.nl>
On Wed, 19 Mar 1997 huy.duong@ctsu.ox.ac.uk wrote:
> A land offensive has to fight through mountainous areas which Vietnam can defend
> well and exact high costs on the attackers. These areas are also away from
> population, industrial and commercial centres. The Chinese airforce is the most
> effective way to wreak destruction on Vietnam. This is why I hope that Vietnam
> has a strong air defence and a strong air force. A Vietnamese airforce with
> anti-ship missiles and tactics can also defend the islands and sea in a way that
> is more within Vietnam's grasp than buying and training a navy that can never
> match China's. Vietnam has the advantage of air fields near the area of
> conflicts and Chinese ships as yet have no air cover.
Some months ago I saw in a Russian newspaper a piece of news telling China
intended to buy a Seaplane Tender (ha`ng kho^ng ma^~u ha.m ?) and a number
of warships from Ukraina (from the Black Sea Fleet). I really don't know
whether it was true. If yes, Chinese warships might have air cover now.
I agree with you there is no sense to try building up navy. Vietnam does
need one. But the bitter truth is that Vietnamese navy never could match
the Chinese one, as you said.
> I think Vietnam should build up a good air force and then resist Chinese
> aggression.
Is Vietnam able to do that? Do we have the time? What do you think?
Take care!
Buu-Long
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Topic No. 14
Date: Wed, 19 Mar 1997 14:29:22 -0600 (CST)
From: Tuan Anh Tran <tat1821@unix.tamu.edu>
To: vnsa-l@csd.uwm.edu
Subject: Re: What is interesting in Physics
Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.91.970319140709.4249A-100000@scully.tamu.edu>
On Mon, 17 Mar 1997, Ha Le wrote:
>
> Hi Ba'c A'i Vie^.t,
> Thanks much for answering my question. I do need some time to digest what
> you wrote and besides, i would like to hear from the "pro".
>
> I personally, don't believe in any TOE ( Theory of everything)...
>
> As i understand, "everything" here just mean a unification theory, it
> does not mean "everything" i.e the end of Physics. In this respect, is
> string theory has any chance?
>
There are five different string theories. Since you don't believe in
TOE, there is no problem. If you want to have a unification theory, five
string theories are gonna be too many candidates. I personally don't
think that string theories will be a candidate of unification theory.
>
> The passion of strings was revived by John Schwartz at Caltech and
> exactly atracted attention by explaining why the dimension is 10 or 26.
> It was discovered that when a field theory is quantized, some troubles
> emerge ( so called anomaly). In the mathematical terms, quantum anomalies
> have origin in the index theorems. I will not go into details here.
> There is a possibility that the anomalies can have opposite sign and
> they can cancelled each other if the theory has more components. The
> multi-dimensional theories are one way to introduce multi-fields as
> components of an unique object.
>
> i'm not sure if i understand here, so you mean that istead of considering
> each "individual" anomaly, they consider a kind of moduli space of all
> anomalities by throwing in more dimensions?
>
> The way to go from a multi-dimensional
> theory to the usual 4-dim field theory is through a process called
> dimesion reduction.
>
> Do you have any simple example of this "dimension reduction" process?
>
>
Tough question. Naively, you can think as follows:
let us take a plan which is 2-dimensional space (x,y). -infinity< x
<+infinity, -infinity< y < +infinity. Then we identify -infinity and
+infinity of x-axis (for example). The x-axis becomes a cirle of
infinite radius (R=infinity). If you can let R-->0, the x-axis will be
disappeared and this procedure reduces your plane (2-dim) to a line
(1-dim) namely y-axis only. In fact, what people do is to take an axis
(let say X) and assume that X=X+2*pi*interger.
> It is believed widely that duality is universal.( You can think of Jing-Jang as
> a very good and simple model for the world).
>
> If i remember correctly, one of Hilbert's problem is to describe the
> so-called "universal duality" - I dont' really understand what it means,
> but it seems that he wanted a kind of axiommatic approach to duality
> phenomena so that for example if something is true, then we get for free its
> "duality" is also true !?
>
> Btw, Can you explain the phenomenon "Cu+.c du+o+ng sinh a^m (and vise
> versa) " in terms of say, perhaps entropy?
> cheers!
> Ha
>
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Topic No. 15
Date: Wed, 19 Mar 1997 14:20:33 -0800 (PST)
From: AnHai Doan <anhai@cs.washington.edu>
To: vnsa-l@csd.uwm.edu
Subject: Chuye^.n cu+o+`i ve^` Trung Quo^'c
Message-ID: <Pine.ULT.3.93.970319140955.12802C-100000@june.cs.washington.edu>
Cha`o ca'c ba'c, tha^'y ca'c ba'c ba`n ve^` Ta`u khu+.a kinh qu'a
to^i cu~ng muo^'n no'i leo ma` ddang ba^.n qu'a. Tho^i co' ma^'y chuye^.n
bi ha`i nghe ddu+o+.c ve^` Trung Quo^'c ke^? ca'c ba'c nghe cho+i:
1) My~ ra^'t so+. TQ vi` TQ co' the^? ga^y ra ddo^.ng dda^'t lo+'n ta.i
My~. Thu+? tu+o+?ng tu+o+.ng ne^'u to^'i nay DDa?ng Co^.ng Sa?n TQ ha.
le^.nh cho ta^'t ca? da^n TQ la` sa'ng mai ddu'ng 9 gio+` sa'ng gio+`
Ba('c Kinh ta^'t ca? pha?i nha?y le^n mo^.t ca'i. Ho+n mo^.t ty? ngu+o+`i
TQ ma` ai cu~ng nha?y le^n mo^.t ca'i cu`ng mo^.t lu'c thi` co`n gi` la`
n'c My~ o+? be^n kia qu?a ddi.a ca^`u nu+~a.
Nghe ba?o My~ ddang co' du+. a'n la` cu~ng ha. le^.nh da^n My~ va` ca'c
n'c ddo^`ng minh cu~ng nha?y le^n mo^.t ca'i dde^? gia?m bo+'t pha^`n na`o
cha^'n ddo^.ng nha?y cu?a da^n TQ.
2) VN so+. TQ vi` TQ co' the^? ga^y ra lu.t lo+'n ta.i ddo^`ng ba(`ng
so^ng Ho^`ng. Ne^'u dda?ng CS TQ ma` ha. le^.nh sa'ng mai ddu'ng 9 gio+`
Ba('c Kinh ta^'t ca? da^n TQ ke'o ra dd... va`o so^ng Ho^`ng (xin lo^~i
ca'c ba'c, nghe the^' na`o ke^? va^.y) thi` lu.t lo+'n o+? Ba('c VN.
Conclusion: Nu+o+'c ca'c ba'c Ta`u khu+.a ddo^ng da^n qu'a, thie^n ha.
tha(`ng na`o cu~ng nga'n.
Ha?i.
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Topic No. 16
Date: Wed, 19 Mar 1997 14:43:56 -0800 (PST)
From: AnHai Doan <anhai@cs.washington.edu>
To: vnsa-l@csd.uwm.edu
Subject: Re: [Viet-Khsv: 4368] Ti'nh ca'ch ngu+o+`i ... ta (human beings) (fwd)
Message-ID: <Pine.SGI.3.91.970319143451.666A-100000@peony.cs.washington.edu>
On Tue, 18 Mar 1997, Truong Trong Hoang wrote:
> Xin phe'p forward posting cu?a ba'c Ba?o le^n VNSA list vi` tha^'y hai
> ca^u tho+ cu?a Ba'c Ba?o kha' thu' vi. ! Ne^'u ba'c na`o co' bie^'t ca^u
> tho+ na`o kha'c cu~ng xin post le^n cho vui. :)
> A(n nhanh, ddi cha^.m, hay cu+o+`i
> Hay mua ddo^` cu~ la` ngu+o+`i Vie^.t nam
> ...
>
> Tri' thu+'c Vie^.t nam tha^.t la` kinh
> Mo^.t ngu+o+`i (tha(`ng) vu+`a no'i chi'n ngu+o+`i (tha(`ng) khinh
> ...
Cha`o ba'c Hoa`ng, ba'c Ba?o, va` ca'c ba'c kha'c,
Thread na`y cu~ng hay la('m. Nga(.t no^~i toa`n vie^.c "dde^'n he.n la.i
le^n", ma(.c ddu` ddu'ng he.n cu~ng kho^ng pha?i la` ti'nh ca'ch ng`
Vie^.t mi`nh, nhu+ng kho^ng la`m bo.n Ta^y no' dda'nh cho thi` bo? m..,
ne^n dda`nh he.n ca'c ba'c ta'n ga^~u va`o di.p kha'c. Ba'c Hoa`ng co'
ba`i gi` mo+'i hay tho+ ca vu+`a vie^'t thi` mong ba'c post cho anh
em ddo.c.
Ta(.ng ca'c ba'c va`i ca^u tho+ vui:
1) No'i ve^` ti'nh ca'ch ng` Vie^.t:
Vie^.t Nam co' ti'nh ca^`n cu`
Thi.t ro+i xuo^'ng dda^'t tho^?i phu`, la.i a(n
2) No'i ve^` li.ch su+? VN bo^'n nga`n na(m va(n hie^'n:
Tu+` trong hang dda' chui ra
Vu+o+n vai mo^.t ca'i ro^`i ta chui va`o
3) No'i ve^` thu+o+? "dde? dda^'t dde? nu+o+'c":
A^u co+ la^'y La.c Long Qua^n
DDe? ra mo^.t lu~ vu+`a dda^`n vu+`a ngu
(Co' ba?n vie^'t la` "dde? ra mo^.t lu~ vu+`a dda^`n vu+`a ddie^n", sau
ddo' co`n hai ca^u tie^'p nu+~a nhu+ng kho^ng dda(ng ra no+i co^ng
co^.ng.)
Tho+ con co'c ddo.c cho vui, ddu+`nng co' ba'c na`o take it seriously
nhe'.
Tha^n, Ha?i.
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Topic No. 17
Date: Wed, 19 Mar 1997 14:46:24 -0800 (PST)
From: AnHai Doan <anhai@cs.washington.edu>
To: vnsa-l@csd.uwm.edu
Subject: Re: Ba'o VN: Gia?i vo^ ddi.ch ha.ng nha^'t Quo^c gia
Message-ID: <Pine.SGI.3.91.970319144418.666B-100000@peony.cs.washington.edu>
Hi Nguye^n,
Ra^'t tie^'c trong tay to^i kho^ng co' ke^'t qu?a ca'c vo`ng dda^'u ma`
anh ho?i. Nhu+ng to^i se~ ho?i ve^` vie^.c na`y cu~ng nhu+ ca'c tin
mo+'i nha^'t ve^` dda' bo'ng cho Nguye^n va` ca'c ba.n kha'c.
Tha^n, Ha?i.
On Tue, 18 Mar 1997, Nguyen Danh Nguyen wrote:
> Ca'm o+n anh dda~ cho nhu+~ng ngu+o+`i ha^m mo^. bo'ng dda' VN bie^'t
> nhu+~ng tho^ng tin mo+'i ve^` gia?i quo^'c gia.
> Xin lo^~i, anh co' the^? post ke^'t qua? ca'c vo`ng dda^'u o+? gia?i vo^
> ddi.ch ha.ng ma.nh le^n du+o+.c kho^ng ?
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Topic No. 18
Date: Thu, 20 Mar 1997 10:33:43 +1100
From: "Caotri Nguyen" <caotri@axis.jeack.com.au>
To: <vnsa-l@csd.uwm.edu>
Subject: Re: Ca^`n giu'p:Tu+. ddie^?n Lac Vie^.t EVA
Message-ID: <199703200029.KAA17577@axis.jeack.com.au>
Hi Bac Toan,
Cach dda'nh VNI nhu* sau:
1 da^'u sa('c
2 da6/u huye^`n
3 da^'u ho?i
4 da^'u nga~
5 da^'u na(.ng
6 da^'u ^
7 da^'u mo'c cho cu8~ u*, o*
8 da^'u ( cho chu8~ a(
9 da^'u ga.ch chu8~ DD
Vi' du.: To^i ddi ho.c se~ dda'nh la`: to^i d9i ho5c
Tha`nh pho^' ho^` chi' Minh -->>>> Tha2nh pho61 ho62 chi1 minh
Ti'nh ca'ch ngu*o*`i Vie^.t -->> Ti1nh ca1ch ngu7o72i vie65t
----------
> From: Toan <toan@usa.net>
> To: Multiple recipients of list <vnsa-l@csd.uwm.edu>
> Subject: Ca^`n giu'p:Tu+. ddie^?n Lac Vie^.t EVA
> Date: Wednesday, March 19, 1997 4:40 PM
>
> Cha`o ca'c ba'c,
>
> Ba'c na`o du`ng tu+` ddie^?n Eva (cu?a La.c Vie^.t ddo+.t 1.1) trong
Win95
> (hay 3.1) thi` la`m o+n giu'p tui hie^?u ca'ch dde^? go~ chu+~ Vie^.t
ne^'u
> mi`nh muo^'n the^m tu+` va`o tu+` ddie^?n.
>
> Hu+o+'ng da^~n trong ddo' cha? no'i dde^'n ca'ch dda'nh. La^u nay tui mo`
> ho^?ng ra, ba^'m ddo^.n hoa`i no' ra tie^'ng ngo.ng gi` dda^u me^.t qua'
> ro^`i, chi.u thua.
>
> Ca'ch dda'nh Telex tui que^n he^'t tro.i ro^`i, co`n mo^.t khung cho
cho.n
> dda'nh chu+~ VNI, nhu+ng dda'nh la`m sao?
>
> Ca'c ba'c la`m o+n giu'p giu`m tui, ddang bu+.c mi`nh nho^? to'c ra
dde^'m
> dda^y.
>
> Ca?m o+n ca'c ba'c,
>
> Toa`n
> toan@usa.net
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Topic No. 19
Date: Thu, 20 Mar 1997 10:34:33 +1100
From: "Caotri Nguyen" <caotri@axis.jeack.com.au>
To: <vnsa-l@csd.uwm.edu>
Subject: Re: Trang Web giu'p na.p/du`ng tie^'ng Vie^.t
Message-ID: <199703200030.KAA17661@axis.jeack.com.au>
Good idea
----------
> From: Toan <toan@usa.net>
> To: Multiple recipients of list <vnsa-l@csd.uwm.edu>
> Subject: Trang Web giu'p na.p/du`ng tie^'ng Vie^.t
> Date: Wednesday, March 19, 1997 5:03 PM
>
> Co' nhie^`u ba` con ho?i tui xin giu'p ve^` vie^.c na.p ca'c bo^. chu+~
va`
> dda'nh tie^'ng Vie^.t trong ca'c he^. kha'c nhau, tu+` 3.1, Unix, NT, cho
> dde^'n Mac.
>
> Tui nghi~ mi`nh ne^n la`m mo^.t trang Web tri`nh ba`y dda^`y ddu? va` ro~
> ca'c mo'n va` ca'ch na.p dde^? ba` con tie^.n dde^'n ma` xem va` la^'y
ve^`
> xa`i thay vi` cu+' ho?i to+'i ba`n lui mo^.t dde^` ta`i.
>
> La`m va^.y thi` ca^`n ca'c ba'c giu'p mo^.t tay:
>
> +Ba'c na`o co' nha` kho to to thi` cho xin cho^~ chu+'a. Ta^?u ta'n ta`i
> sa?n ca`ng nhie^`u cho^` ca`ng to^'t. Ta6.p trung tia'ch tru+~ he^'t
tho+`
> ro^`i.
> +Ba'c na`o xa`i Mac thi` la`m Mac su+
> +Ba'c na`o chuye^n Unix thi` la`m tu+ va^'n Unix, va` cu+' va^.y cho ca'c
> he^. kha'c.
> +Ba'c na`o thi'ch vie^'t ve^` kha'i nie^.m chung dde^? ngu+o+`i du`ng
> hie^?u thi` cu~ng xin la`m va(n kho^' gia te^` thie^n ha..
>
> No'i chung la` ca^`n thanh nie^n xung phong ddi la`m nghi~a vu. quo^'c
te^'
> o+? dda^'t kho^ng ngu+o+`i la'i (no man's land).
>
> Mong ca'c ba'c ddoa`n ke^'t ma` tie^'n le^n giu'p giu`m.
>
> Toa`n
>
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Topic No. 20
Date: Wed, 19 Mar 1997 15:52:46 -0800 (PST)
From: AnHai Doan <anhai@cs.washington.edu>
To: vnsa-l@csd.uwm.edu
Subject: Anyone around San Francisco?
Message-ID: <Pine.SGI.3.91.970319154802.666D-100000@peony.cs.washington.edu>
Hi, I will be attending a conference at Stanford University
from this Sunday until next Wednesday. Is there any VNSA netter
in the area? Perhaps we can get together for a beer, coffee,
dinner, or simple chatting?
If you are interested, please let me know via private e-mail.
Thank you, Hai.
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Topic No. 21
Date: Thu, 20 Mar 1997 11:16:28 -0800
From: Tuan Pham <tuan.pham@unsw.edu.au>
To: vnsa-l <vnsa-l@csd.uwm.edu>
Subject: China &Vietnam
Message-ID: <33318D0C.7BA9@unsw.edu.au>
Hello friends
Both from the short term and long term points of view,
the only way for VN to deal with the Chinese threat
is by pushing ahead faster and faster with the economic
reforms and diplomatic reorientation.
In the short term a Vietnam who demonstrates a clear,
unwavering intention to integrate with the world economy
will receive maximum support from other regional and
world powers. If it can get rid of corruption, inefficiencies,
arbitrary and irrational decision making, confusing
laws, etc. it will earn the respect of all.
In the long term a Vietnam who is prosperous and strong
will, like South Korea, have nothing to fear from China.
See how China was forced to please S.Korea in the recent
defection episode.
That VN wasted more than a decade or peace and is consequently
at least ten years behind China only makes it more essential
that we catch up on lost time. Now is not the time to
lose heart - China has its own problems and it is possible
to catch up and surpass it if the right policies are
followed. But VN must work hard AND smart. There's no quick,
easy solution.
Cheers
Tuan Pham
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