Re: Re: Re: The Japanese

[hduc@airmoon.epa.nsw.gov.au]

Hi all,

I would like to contribute to the discussion on Japan in WWII in Vietnam 
by being informative and based on factual analysis. This will benefit 
everyone. 

(1) The Japanese delegation who came to Vietnam to make the documentaries 
was from the film company NHK. NHK made the film in 1994. Also many Japanese 
business people came to see the historical archive of Vo An Ninh when they 
visit and work in Vietnam. They were all moved by the terrible pictures 
they saw. Many apologised for what happened. 

(2) A comprehensive study of the war period 1940-145 and its effect was 
jointly conducted by a team of Vietnamese and Japanese historians 
recently. The result of the study has been published last year in one of 
the journal in Vietnam. The Vietnam-Japan study includes Prof. Van Tao, 
Yuuji Sano, Minami Yoshizawa..

A short version of the report was published in the reference below :

Gs Van Tao - Su+. tha^.t li.ch su+? ve^` na.n ddo'i na(m 1945 o+? Vie^.t Nam
Ta.p chi' Khoa ho.c xa~ ho^.i, So^' 27, 1-96, 1996, trang 71-79.
Vie^.n Khoa ho.c xa~ ho^.i ta.i Tp Ho Chi Minh.

A comprehensive survey of all provinces in Northern Vietnam in each 
district with the rate of death averaged over the region. Using the 
French "Annuaire statistique de l'Indochine 1943-1945" to get the 
population of 13,156,300 people and the low end of the average death rate 
of 15%, the estimated death is about 2 millions people.

This reference should be consulted as it tells a lot of statistics and 
some horror stories from both surviving Vietnamese and former Japanese 
officials working in Vietnam at that time.

I hope this is fairly factual informative to the recent thread on this 
subject. 

I don't think Vietnam at the moment and Vietnamese people ask for 
compassion or compensation from Japan. They only want to help Japan to 
know the truth and to consolidate the friendship between the people in 
the future generation. This will help Japan to be at peace with itself 
and to know what it was, what it is both within and without its soul in 
the context of Asian histories.

Cheers,

Hiep Nguyen

PS : A very good research article on the historical contact between 
Vietnam-Japan from the 16th century to the beginning of 20th century is :

Trinh Tien Thuat - Giao luu+ Nha^.t-Vie^.t the^' ky? 16-17th va` dda^`u 
the^' ky? 20.
Tap chi' Khoa ho.c xa~ ho^.i, so^' 30, 4-96, 1996, trang 55-64

and of course, a book by Prof. Vi~nh Sinh

Vi~nh Sinh - Vie^.t Nam-Nha^.t Ba?n trong the^' gio+'i DDong A' 
Nxb Tp. HCM 1992


On Fri, 4 Apr 1997, Aiviet Nguyen wrote:

> 
> Hi,
> On Fri, 4 Apr 1997 K430751@kepco.co.jp wrote:
>  
> > Their report has no effect in Japan, because the delegation was strongly 
> > affected by special politicl group and had no influence to Japanese 
> > society.
> 
>    Can you name the political group? Do you mean the Japanese communists?
> 
> >  Average people felt that the group began to cause trouble to 
> > speak loudly about what might be myth. 
> 
>    I am quite disappointed about this kind of patriotism and this kind of 
> average social spirit. 
>    Can we use the word "myth" for something unlikely to be true, according
> to the facts.
> 
> > And I know that in VN they teach that the Japanese caused 1945 problem 
> > in text book.  I think there would be some chance to check the library 
> > of Defence Institute in Tokyo.  Many materials seems to be sleeping in 
> > their library.
> 
>    You sounds not to be willing to admit the truth, even if they are true.
> It does not matter what they teach. It is important that if it really 
> happened, do you have enough courage to face to it. You can never find 
> the truth, if you think "the average" way.
>  
> > To find the truth, we should check everything from all sides including 
> > France.
> 
>   Yes, everything including France and Vo An Ninh's pictures. I don't 
> know why you nullify those pictures, just because of the average thinking
> and the delegation that represents a "special political group".
>   
>   The evidences in the Japan Defense Archives would potentially reveal
> the truths, and you don't know what they are. The Vo An Ninh's pictures
> do say something, until you cannot prove they are fake.
> 
>  That Vnmese People died in mass in North VN in 1945 was fact. There are 
> still many contemporaries who witnessed this tragedy including my parents.
> That the Japanese Army force was in power in VN ( not the French ) was fact.
> You are welcome to prove that if The Japanese Army would not have been there
> the hunger had had occured unavoidably.
> 
> Then I would think that all stories in Vnmese Literature about that period
> were "myth"s, even the writers were not taught in schools those "myths".
> 
> With the best regards
> 
> 
> > Tsuchikawa 
> 

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