Re: Protocol, Interface,....

["Toan" <toan@usa.net>]

Sao, ba'c AnHa?i a(n mi` go'i xong chu+a?

Ba'c Tua^'n no'i ve^` du`ng tie^'ng Vie^.t ddo^'i vo+'i la.i  Ha'n Vie^.t
ma` kho^ng cho thi' du.

Tui nu+?a ddo^`ng y', nu+?a kho^ng o+'i ba'c Tua^'n.

Chu+`ng na`o ba'c chia cho tui ddu+o+.c la`m hai tu+` ddie^?n, mo^.t
thua^`n Vie^.t, mo^.t thua^`n Ha'n Vie^.t thi` tui chi.u. Co`n kho^ng thi`
tui tha^'y nhu+ va^`y ne`:

Ha'n Vie^.t CU~NG la` tie^'ng Vie^.t! Da^n mi`nh <cha'nh thu+'c> co' co^'ng
hie^'n va`o tie^'ng Ha'n, va` cu~ng tu+`ng bao la6u Du`ng tie^'ng Ha'n. No'
cu~ng la` cu?a mi`nh.
No^m la` tie^'ng Vie^.t
Chu+~ phie^n a^m du`ng ro^.ng va` ddu+o+.c hie^?u cu~ng la` tie^'ng Vie^.t:
pho' ma't, ca`rem, sam-banh, ghi-ddo^ng, xi'ch-lo^,

PHO+?
Da. thu+a ba'c co' a(n PHO+? chu+a a.? Ba'c ti`m cho ra ddie^? ti'ch Pho+?
tie^'ng Vie^.t thi` tui phu.c ba'c la('m ddo'!


****tie^'ng Vie^.t co`n so^'ng, va` co`n bie^'n hoa',  thay ddo^?i*****

Nhu+ ba'c AnHa?i no'i, cu`ng co`n tu`y cho^~ ma` du`ng.

Ddem <Software> ma` di.ch ra <Nhu Lie^.u> thi` cu~ng dda'ng tra'ch la('m,
Tu+` dden to^'i sang mu`mo+`.

Soft+ware la` hai chu+~ tu.c no'i cho tie^.n, chu+~ ha(`ng nga`y. Di.ch
theo y' ra tie^'ng Vie^.t la` Pha^`n me^`m thi` chuye^?n ddu+o+.c ca'i
<tinh tha^`n> bi`nh da^n cu?a no', nhu+ng ma^'t ba` ddi nghi~a la` gi`.

Ngo^`i du+o+'i ruo^.ng tu tra'i du+`a ma` ai ba?o pha^`n me^`m la`m sao
hie^?u no^?i ca'i thu+' cao xa kia? co`n pha^`n cu+'ng nu+~a, thi` co' le~
xhi? thi.t vo+'i so. du+`a tho^i chu+' gi`?

A^'y ro^`i thi` da^n mi`nh cu~ng du`ng <ma'y>  thay va`o <pha^`n cu+'ng>
co`n <pha^`n me^`m> thi` tui chu+a bie^'t so^' pha^.n ra sao a..

Co' le~ software di.ch cho ra le~ pha?i no'i dde^'n <la^.p tri`nh vi ti'nh>
hay ddie^.n ti'nh thi` de^~ hie^?u ho+n.
  
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Co`n ba'c Tua^'n no'i ve^` ma^'y ngu+o+`i khoa'i khoe tie^'ng loa.n gio^'ng
thi` tui tha^'y ddu'ng. Nhu+ tui thi` thi'c du`ng nhu+`ng thu+' VPs la`,
kha' hay, nhu+ng ra^'t kho' chi.u vo+'i tu+`<Nhu lie^.u> ho. du`ng.

SOFT cha? pha?i la` NHU
SOFT ddu'ng la` me^`m, hoa(*.c ta cu~ng du`ng <xo^'p>
Ne^'u muo^'n di.ch ra Ha'n thi` di.ch la` NHUYE^~N

WARE cha? pha?i la` LIE^.U.
WARE cu~ng cha(?ng pha?i la` PHA^`N, nhu+ng co`n hay ho+n Lie^.u.
WARE la`KIE^.N 

Theo di.ch ra Ha'n pha?i la` <Nhuye^~n Kie^.n> cu+' nhu+ ngu+o+`i Nha^.t
du`ng.

NHU va` CU+O+NG la` co' ta'nh ddo^.ng chu+' kho^ng ti.nh nhu+ trong
Nhuye^~n va` Nga.ch. SOFT va` HARD la` hai tu+` Ti.nh.   

SOFTWARE=<la^.p tri`nh vi ti'nh> (la^'y la^.p tri`nh la`m danh tu+`) di.ch
gia?i nghi~a luo^n the^?
SOFTWARE=muo^'n ba hoa thi` la` <Nhuye^~n Kie^.n>

HARDWARE=<Ma'y ddie^.n ti'nh> hay <ma'y vi ti'nh> (vi ti'nh cu. the^? cho
ca'c loa.i nhu+ PC, ddie^.n ti'nh ro^.ng ho+n, bao go^`m luo^n ca'c ma'y
lo+'n).
HARDWARE=muo^'n ddie^.u thi` du`ng <Nga.ch Kie^.n>
 
Co`n ve^` ba'c Tua^'n no'i <ba tha'ng> thi` nhie^`u khi kho^ng dda'ng the.n
nhu+ ba'c a^'y nghi~ dda^u. Tie^'ng ta du`ng co`n co' nhu+~ng khi'a ca.nh
xa~ ho6.i, tho+`i gian va` kinh te^' nu+~a.

Tam ca' nguye^.t cha(?ng pha?i ta.i ngu+o+`i ta ham khoe tie^'ng Ha'n ma`
du`ng, ma` la` no' nha^.p qua mi`nh tu+` ddu+o+`ng ddo', theo lo^'i ha`nh
cha'nh chia na(m ra bo^'n ki`, mo^~i ki` ba tha'ng. No'i ba tha'ng la` ba
tha'ng, co`n no'i tam ca' nguye^.t la` hie^?u mo^.t pha^`n tu+ cu?a na(m,
tu+'c la` cu`ng ba tha'ng nhu+ng co' y' chi? pha^n so^' theo doanh thuo+ng
va` ha`nh cha'nh. Tie^'ng Anh  thi` go. i no' la` <quarter>. 

 Ba^y gio+` tui xi'a vo^ chuye^.n ba'c AnHa?i be^n du+o+'i nhe'...... 
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> From: AnHai Doan <anhai@cs.washington.edu>
> To: Multiple recipients of list <vnsa-l@csd.uwm.edu>
> Subject: Re: Protocol, Interface,....
> Date: Saturday, 12 April, 1997 5:51 PM
> 
> 
> 
> On Sat, 12 Apr 1997, Trinh Anh Tuan wrote:
> 
> > Chuye^.n ve^` nhie^`u 
> > ngu'o'`i Vie^.t Nam thi'ch khoe chu'~,kho^ng  thi'ch du`ng tu'` Vie^.t
> > ma` thi'ch du`ng tu'` ha'n Vie^.t,no'i vi' du. nhu' ho. thi'ch no'i
> > "tam ca' nguye^.t" thay cho cho mo^.t tu'` ddo'n gia?n va` de^~ hie^?u
> > la` "ba tha'ng"....Em ,ca' nha^n,tha^'y xa^'u ho^? thay cho ho.,kho^ng 
> > tha^'y ddu'o'.c ca'i nhu.c bi. ddo^ ho^. ma` pha?i du`ng tie^'ng cu?a
no',
> > la.i co`n cu'' hue^nh hoang ta dda^y hie^?u bie^'t.

===== pha^`n ba'c AnHa?i vie^'t

> Tua^'n va` ca'c ba.n kha'c tha^n me^'n,
> 
> Mi`nh kho^ng co' ddu? tho+`i gian dde^? ddi chi tie^'t va`o thread na`y 
> (tie^'c qu'a), nhu+ng co' mo^.t comment ve^` y' Tua^'n no'i o+? tre^n.
> 
> Vie^.c khi na`o du`ng tu+` Ha'n Vie^.t, khi na`o du`ng tu+` thua^`n 
> Vie^.t la` mo^.t vie^.c kha' te^' nhi va` subtle. Cha(?ng ha.n kho^ng 
> the^? bo? du`ng "Ho^.i Lie^n Hie^.p Phu. Nu+~" ma` du`ng "Ho^.i Lie^n
Hie^.p
> DDo+`n Ba`" ddu+o+.c. Cu~ng nhu+ kho^ng the^? thay "Nha` Ho^. Sinh" 
> ba(`ng "Xu+o+?ng DDe?". Co`n nhie^`u thi' du. kha'c nu+~a nhu+ng mi`nh 
> que^n tie^.t ca? ro^`i.
> 
> Chuye^.n kha'c. Co' nghe no'i ra(`ng: Ne^'u no'i ve^` na.n ga'i ma~i da^m
> no+i co^ng co^.ng thi` pha?i no'i "na.n ga'i ma~i da^m o+? Sa`i Go`n
va^~n
> ddang co`n to^`n ta.i". Ne^'u thay tu+` "Sa`i Go`n" ba(`ng te^n chi'nh
thu+'c
> cu?a no' ba^y gio+` thi` e ra(`ng de^~ bi. ca.o dda^`u. Chuye^.n 
> na`y nghe la^u la('m ro^`i kho^ng hie^?u thu+.c hu+ ba^y gio+` ra sao. 


Ca'i cho^` be^n tre^n na`y hay ddo' ba'c. Va^.y Sa`i Go`n thi` la` ba'n
cha'nh thu+'c, no'i gi` no'i, co`n te^n cha'nh thu+'c thi` pha?i tu+.
kie^?m khai ho^. kha^?u tru+o+'c hi??  

> Va`i vi' du. va^.y ddu? tha^'y tie^'ng Vie^.t lo^`ng vo+'i chi'nh tri., 
> phong tu.c ta^.p qua'n, va(n ho'a, tho'i quen, ... tro+? ne^n ra('c 
> ro^'i nhu+ the^' na`o. Va` vi` va^.y chu'ng ta va^~n ne^n duy tri` va` 
> pha't trie^?n ca? tie^'ng thua^`n Vie^.t cu~ng nhu+ Ha'n Vie^.t, chi? 
> ne^n lu+u y' du`ng tu+` na`o ddu'ng cho^~ na`o ma` tho^i.
> 
> Va`i do`ng vie^'t vo^.i trong khi ddo'i.
> Tha^n, Ha?i.

Tui tha^'y ra('c ro^'i cu~ng vui tho^. No' cu~ng cha? ra('c ro^'i ho+n ba'c
Trung Hoa ha`ng xo'm ta hay bac Nha^t be^n tre^n a^'y dda^u.


Ngo^. pa'i pa` con pha?i li na`m vie^.c the^m mo^.t ti'  a.!

Toa`n