Re: Translation

[Vu Huu Vinh <vu@kuhp.kyoto-u.ac.jp>]

Hi anh Huy, anh Tuan Nguyen.. and all
Toi cu~ng xin ma.n phe'p gop y' them ve^` ma^'y tu+` cac anh dang ba`n,
co' gi` chu+a ddu'ng cac anh ba`n the^m:

>(a)     Clinical trial: Thi' (hay thu+?) nghie^.m la^m sa`ng.

Ne^n di.ch la` thu+? nghie^.m la^m sa`ng chu+' kho^ng ne^n la` thi'
ngie^.m la^m sa`ng.
vo+'i nghia~ la` dda~ la`m thi' nghie^m o+? dda^u ddo' ( ddo^.ng
va^.t,...?) tha^'y co' ke^'t qua?, nay thu+? nghie^.m la.i tre^n nguoi
be^.nh.
Ne^'u du`ng cu.m tu+` thi' nghie^.m la^m sa`ng de^~ nha^`m vo+'i nghia~
ba('t dda^`u la`m thi' nghie^.m tu+` dda^`u tre^n be^.nh nha^n.

>(b)     Randomised: Pha^n nho'm be^.nh nha^n mo^.t ca'ch 
>nga^~u nhie^n. 

Chi? ca^`n la` pha^n nho'm nga^~u nhie^n. Co' the^? du`ng cho ca? nguoi
hay ddo^.ng vat. DDe^? pha^n nho'm nga^~u nhien chuo^.t thi' nghiem
cu~ng du`ng tu+` na`y

>(c)     Random: theo nghi~a thu+o+`ng thi` di.ch la` "nga^~u 
>nhie^n". Theo to^i thi` ca'ch di.ch na`y cu~ng co' the^? 
>du`ng cho y khoa .

Tu+` na`y va^~n ddu+o+.c du`ng trong Y khoa theo tu+` anh du`ng ( nga^~u
nhie^n)

>(d)     Bias: Theo to^i thi` chu+~ na`y ne^n di.ch la` 
>"che^nh le^.ch" hay "thie^'u ti'nh ca^n ba(`ng".

Tu+` na`y to^i kho^ng da'm cha('c vi` i't ga(.p nhu+ng no' chi? nhu+~
ma^~u (sample) du+o+.c la^'y kho^ng trong cu`ng 1 ddie^`u kie^.n ( do
so+ xua^'t hoac co' chu? y') va^.y ne^n cha(ng ta co' the^? du`ng tu+` "
thie^n le^.ch" dde^? pha?n a'nh y' na`y.
 vd: Biased sample: Ma^~u thie^n le^.ch ( ma^~u du+o+.c la^'y thie^'u
ti'nh ca^n ba(`ng,,, nhu+ y' anh Tuan Nguyen du`ng)

regads
Vinh 

>From: Tuan V Nguyen <t.nguyen@garvan.unsw.edu.au>
>To: vnsa-l@csd.uwm.edu
>Subject: Re: [urgent]Translation for Statistical terms
>Message-ID: <1.5.4.16.19970502080535.27e7bde4@gimr.garvan.unsw.edu.au>

>Hello anh Huy and folks,

>        DDe^? to^i la`m gan go'p the^m va`i y' cho hai anh 
>Frank Nguyen & Buu Long Nguyen ve^` ma^'y cu.m tu+` na`y: 

>(a)     Clinical trial: Thi' (hay thu+?) nghie^.m la^m sa`ng.

>(b)     Randomised: Pha^n nho'm be^.nh nha^n mo^.t ca'ch 
>nga^~u nhie^n. 

>        Hmm! ca'ch di.ch nhu+ va^`y thi` da`i qua' nhu+ng 
>no'i le^n ddu+o+.c ca'i y' cu?a chu+~ na`y. 

>(c)     Random: theo nghi~a thu+o+`ng thi` di.ch la` "nga^~u 
>nhie^n". Theo to^i thi` ca'ch di.ch na`y cu~ng co' the^? 
>du`ng cho y khoa .

>(d)     Bias: Theo to^i thi` chu+~ na`y ne^n di.ch la` 
>"che^nh le^.ch" hay "thie^'u ti'nh ca^n ba(`ng".

>        To^i ti`m trong tu+` ddie^?n, nhu+ng cha(?ng tha^'y 
>ai gia?i thi'ch ma^'y cu.m tu+` na`y. Co' le~ ca'i concept 
>co`n mo+'i ddo^'i vo+'i VN ta . DDa^y cu~ng la` co^ng 
>vie^.c ma` anh Toa`n & Dzung and Co. ne^n ti`m hie^?u 
>the^m.



>        Tua^'n V Nguye^~n