Re: Mo^ hi`nh li.ch su+? Re: Ba('c Ngu.y ... Help!?!

["Hoa Nguyen" <thanhhuy@email.msn.com>]

Cha`o ba'c Thach Nguyen,
La^u qua' kho^ng tha^'y ba'c le^n tie^'ng ba`n ve^` su+?. To^i xin go'p va`i
y' nghi~ rie^ng ve^` ca^u chuye^.n thu' vi. du+o+'i dda^y.


>>    Theo y' to^i chu'ng ta va^~n co`n bi. a?nh hu+o+?ng lo^'i nghi~ cu~
>> ve^` chuye^. "Ngu~ Ho^` Loa.n Hoa". To^i co' ca?m tu+o+?ng Trung quo^'c
>> nga`y nay la` ho+.p nha^'t cu?a Ha'n, Ho^` va` Nam Trung Hoa.
>
>     Cho^? na`y thi` ddo^`ng y'  vo+'i ba'c. Va` ngay ca?
>da^n Ha'n cu~ng la` gio^'ng lai giu+~a da^n ca'c nu+o+'c tho+`i Chie^'n
>quo^'c, Ma^n, Chie^'t and who knows what else (So+?, Ngo^, Vie^.t cha(?ng
>cu`ng gio^'ng vo+'i con cha'u cu?a Chu, ngay Ta^`n cu~ng la` Nhung Ho^`
>mo^.t pha^`n).

To^i nghi~ tu+` ddo+`i Ha'n,  "Trung Nguye^n" dda~ hi`nh tha`nh  mo^.t vu`ng
dda^'t co' bo+` co~i minh ba.ch, co' va(n ho'a rie^ng bie^.t, du` tru+o+'c
ddo' la` no+i ta^.p ho+.p nhie^`u nho'm  da^n to^.c kha'c nhau, trong ddo'
dda'ng ke^? co' nho'm Ba'ch Vie^.t o+? phi'a Nam. Vi` va^.y, Hung No^ ddo^'i
vo+'i Chie^u Qua^n cu~ng gio^'ng nhu+ Giao chi? (La.c Vie^.t) ddo^'i vo+'i
Ma~ Vie^.n, dde^`u la` dda^'t Ho^`, Man kho^ng thuo^.c Ha'n to^.c.
Sau na`y ngu+o+`i Kim thuo^.c Ma~n to^.c va`o chie^'m mie^`n Ba('c cu?a nha`
To^'ng, cu~ng pha?i ke^? la` gio^'ng "ngoa.i lai" ddo^'i vo+'i ngu+o+`i
"Trung" Hoa, nhu+ ngu+o+`i nu+o+'c Ta^y Ha. thuo^.c Ta.ng, hay ngu+o+`i
Mo^ng cu?a Tha`nh Ca't Tu+ Ha?n. To^i cho la` xo'a he^'t su+. pha^n bie^.t
ve^` nguo^`n go^'c chu?ng to^.c  la` "ro+i " va`o chi'nh sa'ch nu+o+'c
"Trung Hoa la` Mo^.t" hie^.n nay. Chu'ng ta kho^ng pha?i la` "ngu+o+`i Ba('c
Kinh" vie^.c gi` pha?i la`m the^'. Ai cu~ng bie^'t ngu+o+`i Dda`i Loan ba?n
ddi.a kha'c ngu+o+`i Trung Hoa lu.c ddi.a, chi? ve^` chi'nh tri. la` ho.
cu`ng chung mo^.t nu+o+'c. Cho ne^n ddu+'ng ve^` ma(.t li.ch su+?, pha?i co'
can dda?m nha^.n ra su+. kha'c nhau ve^` chu?ng to^.c, ve^` va(n ho'a cu?a
ca'c gio^'ng Ha'n, Ma~n, Mo^ng, Ho^`i, Ta.ng. Ddie^`u ddo' xe't ra cu~ng
cha(?ng co' ha.i gi`, nhu+ Hoa ky` va^~n tu+. nha^.n la` Hie^.p chu?ng
quo^'c, hay nu+o+'c Anh va^~n nha^.n bi. ca'c gio^'ng German, Viking, Frank
tu+` ngoa`i va`o xa^m chie^'m tru+o+'c khi tro+? tha`nh mo^.t chu?ng to^.c
rie^ng, co' mo^.t ngo^n ngu+~ rie^ng (xin lo^~i ne^'u sai, to^i kho^ng
thuo^.c su+? Anh quo^'c).
Nguye^~n Ho`a
>     Co' le? vi` trong previous post du`ng chu+~ "Ta`u" ne^n bi. ba'c
>hie^?u la^`m, actually by Ta`u I was meaning Ha'n trong giai ddoa.n ddo'.
>Intermarriage giu+~a Ha'n, Ho^` pho^? bie^'n tu+` tho+`i ba('c Ngu.y va`
>dde^'n DDu+o+`ng thi` su+. kha'c bie^.t kho^ng co`n, dda(.c bie^.t trong
>nhu+~ng gia ddi`nh cu+. to^.c Ba('c Hoa (DDu+o+`ng Ly' The^' Da^n mo^.t
>pha^`n Ha'n va` ma^'y pha^`n Ho^`) va` ngay ca? da^n "Ho^` inside the
>wall" cu~ng tha`nh Ha'n ho'a, ca'c ho. DDo^.c co^, Vu~ va(n, A^u du+o+ng
>dde^`u la` con cha'u cu?a "ngu~ Ho^`".
>
>>
>>    La`m gi` co' chuye^. Ho^` Loa.n Hoa.
>
>  Ne^'u nhi`n tre^n phu+o+ng die^.n toa`n cu.c cu?a li.ch su+? thi`
>so sa'nh Hoa Ho^` kho^ng to^`n ta.i, nhu+ng ne^'u nhi`n tre^n phu+o+ng
>die^.n cu?a tu+`ng ta^.p ddoa`n trong giai ddoa.n li.ch su+? na`y thi` co'
>to^`n ta.i .
>
>> Na(m to^.c Ho^` dde^` la` bo^.
>> pha^.n ca^'u tha`nh cu?a TQ nga`y nay. Tha^.m chi' mo^ ta? li.ch su+?
>> TQ ma` cho Nam To^'ng la` Ta`u, Kim la` ngoa.i bang la` thie^n le^.ch.
>
>  Chi? thie^n le^.ch trong today viewpoint (hay i't nha^'t tu+`
>early 20th century). Trong ca'i nhi`n ddu+o+ng tho+`i, cha('c cha('n pha?i
>co' su+. kha'c bie^.t. DDo+n gia?n la` vi` ngu+o+`i Kim va` ngu+o+`i
>To^'ng kho^ng cu`ng gio^'ng. Nhu+ng ne^'u ta du`ng ca'i nhi`n cu?a
>ngu+o+`i Ta`u nga`y nay (con cha'u cu?a ca? hai) thi` su+. thie^n le^.ch
>kho^ng ne^n co'.
>
>> Theo to^i sau na`y vie^'t la.i su+? TQ ca^`n kha'ch quan
>> cho ra(`ng Kim cu~ng la` mo^.t bo^. pha^.n ca^'u tha`nh cu?a TQ va`
>> cuo^.c chie^'n tranh Kim To^'ng chi? la` hi`nh tha`nh nu+o+'c Ta`u
>> hie^.n dda.i y nhu+ Chu dda'nh Thu+o+ng, Thu+o+ng dda'nh Ha. va^.y.
>
>   Regards
>
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