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VNSA-L digest 307
VNSA-L Digest 307
Topics covered in this issue include:
1) Re: wavelets
by "Doan Hong Nghia" <nghia@telemedia.hu>
2) Re: Re[2]: Take something back to Vietnam
by Ho Tu Bao <bao@jaist.ac.jp>
3) Re: Solar power
by "Doan Hong Nghia" <nghia@telemedia.hu>
4) War & statistics
by huy.duong@ctsu.ox.ac.uk
5) Re: TWO questions to experts, (academics & pratical)
by Sonnet Nguyen <sonnet@theta1.ifpan.edu.pl>
6) Take something back: Contacts needed
by huy.duong@ctsu.ox.ac.uk
7) Re: Chu*~ BA'C trong tie^'ng Viet.
by "Toan" <toan@usa.net>
8) Re: "Independence" Movement in Xinjiang/China
by Bui Duy Thanh <etc59651@ait.ac.th>
9) Re: Take something back: Contacts needed
by TPLS <tran@spike.fa.gau.hu>
10) Re: Take something back to Vietnam
by Aiviet Nguyen <aiviet@cat.syr.edu>
11) Re: "Independence" Movement in Xinjiang/China
by Aiviet Nguyen <aiviet@cat.syr.edu>
12) Re: Chu*~ BA'C trong tie^'ng Viet.
by My Huyen Nguyen <M.H.Nguyen-iq1b7756@lmu.ac.uk>
13) Re: Take something back: Contacts needed
by Judy Ladinsky <jlladins@facstaff.wisc.edu>
14) Re: TWO questions to experts ...
by Aiviet Nguyen <aiviet@cat.syr.edu>
15) Re: Specificity
by Aiviet Nguyen <aiviet@cat.syr.edu>
16) Re: Ti'nh ca'ch... (3)
by Aiviet Nguyen <aiviet@cat.syr.edu>
17) Re: Paracels and Spratleys
by Aiviet Nguyen <aiviet@cat.syr.edu>
18) Re: TWO questions to experts, (academics & pratical)
by Aiviet Nguyen <aiviet@cat.syr.edu>
19) Re: TWO questions to experts ...
by Quoc-Lan Nguyen <Quoc-Lan.Nguyen@imag.fr>
20) Re: Ti'nh ca'ch... (3)
by Tran Minh Tien <tran@idefix.mpipks-dresden.mpg.de>
21) Re: Specificity
by Dung Trong Nguyen <nguyen@jaist.ac.jp>
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Topic No. 1
Date: Thu, 27 Mar 1997 11:20:26 CET
From: "Doan Hong Nghia" <nghia@telemedia.hu>
To: vnsa-l@csd.uwm.edu
Subject: Re: wavelets
Message-ID: <7ABB971BEB@telemedia.hu>
> Date: Wed, 26 Mar 1997 11:12:33 -0600 (CST)
> Reply-to: vnsa-l@csd.uwm.edu
> From: Do Dinh Nghia <don@iem.pw.edu.pl>
> To: Multiple recipients of list <vnsa-l@csd.uwm.edu>
> Subject: wavelets
> Cha`o ca'c ba.n!
>
> To^i co' mo^t. va^n' dde^` muo^n' ddu*o*c. ca'c ban. giu'p ddo*~.
> DDo' la` so-called "wavelets & wavelet transformation"
> To^i dda~ co' trong tay cuo^n' "Approximation Theory,Wavelets & Applications"
> nhu*ng qua? tha^t. to^i ddo.c kho' qu'a vi vo^n' di~ chi? la` nha` ky~ thua^t.
> ma` NATO ANSI Series do ca'c nha` toa'n vie^'t , kha' la` triu` tu*o*ng.(ddo^i'
> vo*i' to^i).
> Bie^n' ddo^i? Fourier thi` chung' to^i , nhu*ng~ nha` ky~ thua^t. dda~ quen
> va` dda~ co' thua^t. toan' bie^n' ddo^i? Fourier nhanh (FFT) , tha^m. tri' trongMATLAB co' le^nh. FFT va` IFFT(inverce) . Ba?n cha^t' cua? bie^n' ddo^i? Fourierla`xap xi? hoa'(approximation) mo^t. t
> Gia? su*? ta co' mo^t. chuo^i~ so^' X=[x1 x2 ....xn]T thi` bie^n' ddo^i? WT
> cua? X o* scale s nhu* the^s nao`? Co' cha(ng mo^t. thua^t. toan' bie^n' ddo^i?
> nhanh ?
> Ra^t' mong nha^.n ddu*o*c. su*. giu'p ddo*~ cua? cac' ban. Chao`!
>
>
Dau tuan minh se tra loi cho anh Nghia, anh thay sao, vi tu gio den
dau tuan sau truong minh nghi xuan, ma minh thi khong co tai lieu
ve phan nay o nha, mac du day la chuyen mon cua minh :). The co gi
khoang thu 3-4 anh Nghia nhe.
Than ai,
Doan Hong Nghia
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Topic No. 2
Date: Thu, 27 Mar 1997 20:13:37 JST
From: Ho Tu Bao <bao@jaist.ac.jp>
To: vnsa-l@csd.uwm.edu
Subject: Re: Re[2]: Take something back to Vietnam
Message-ID: <199703271113.UAA04730@mikan.jaist.ac.jp>
Cha`o ca'c anh chi.,
Khi o+? Vietnam to^i cu~ng co' nhu+~ng na(m tham gia da.y IT o+? mo^.t
va`i dda.i ho.c (Hanoi Univ., HoChiMinh City Univ., Thang Long Univ.).
To^i nha^.n tha^'y ve^` sa'ch IT:
1) Ca'c sa'ch pho^? tho^ng programming languages, su+? du.ng computers
va` software, ... co' kha' nhie^`u, ddu+o+.c di.ch cu~ng nhie^`u. Do
va^.y co' le~ la` ca? dda.i ho.c va` be^n ngoa`i kho^ng thie^'u la('m
nhu+~ng sa'ch na`y.
2) Tuy nhie^n IT textbooks thi` ra^'t thie^'u va` ra^'t hie^'m. Ha^`u
he^'t gia'o vie^n dda.i ho.c dde^`u kho^ng co' sa'ch to^'t (chu+a no'i
gi` dde^'n sinh vie^n). Theo to^i ca'c loa.i sa'ch na`y ddang ra^'t
ca^`n, vo^ cu`ng quan tro.ng, kho^ng so+. kho^ng co' ngu+o+`i
du`ng. To^i va^~n mong gia' nhu+ Khoa Tin ho.c o+? ma^'y dda.i ho.c
lo+'n co' ddu? mo^.t bo^. textbook to^'t cho ca'c mo^n ho.c co+ ba?n
cu?a undergraduate programme thi` cha^'t lu+o+.ng da.y o+? dda.i ho.c
se~ co' mo^.t ddie^`u kie^.n (ca^`n) dde^? ta(ng dda'ng ke^?.
Xin tham gia ba`n tie^'p chuye^.n na`y ...
Thanks,
HT Bao
>> Ne^'u anh em co' any sa'ch vo+? ho.c IT hoa(.c ba^'t cu+' thu+' gi`
>> co' the^? hu+~u du.ng xin gom la.i du`m. Khi dda~ nhie^`u kha kha' co'
>> the^? go+?i ve^`. Nho+` anh em cho mo^.t ca'i list. dde^? ddo+~ shipping
>> expense.
>> Thanks
>> Aiviet
> O+? ha~ng mi`nh la`m cu~ng thu+o+`ng xuye^n co' sa'ch IT (C/C++, Assembler,
> Pascal, ect.) kho^ng du`ng nu+a~. Ma^'y tha'ng nay mi`nh co' giu+~ la.i mo^.t
> so^', anh em na`o ve^` VN hay co' ca'ch na`o gu+?i ve^` chung cho ddo+~ to^'n
> tie^`n cho mi`nh gui+? theo vo+'i.
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Topic No. 3
Date: Thu, 27 Mar 1997 11:22:28 CET
From: "Doan Hong Nghia" <nghia@telemedia.hu>
To: vnsa-l@csd.uwm.edu
Subject: Re: Solar power
Message-ID: <7AC4076654@telemedia.hu>
> Date: Wed, 26 Mar 1997 10:54:21 -0600 (CST)
> Reply-to: vnsa-l@csd.uwm.edu
> From: huy.duong@ctsu.ox.ac.uk
> To: Multiple recipients of list <vnsa-l@csd.uwm.edu>
> Subject: Solar power
> Tra.m pha't ddie^.n na(ng lu+o+.ng ma(.t tro+`i dda~ ddu+o+.c ti?nh BDd
> xa^y du+.ng ta.i ba'n dda?o ba~i Xe^'p, thuo^.c phu+o+`ng Quang Trung - TP
> Quy Nhon. To^?ng co^ng sua^'t cu?a tra.m la` 1.200W cung ca^'p nguo^`n
> ^^^^^
> This seems too small, can you check, anh Son?
> ddie^.n cho khu da^n cu+ ta.i dda^y. Kinh phi' xa^y du+.ng co^ng tri`nh
> la` 120 trie^.u ddo^`ng. Vie^.t Hie^`n
>
>
Theo Nghia~ nghi~ thi` 120 trie^.u chi xa^y ddu+o+.c mo^.t tra.m nhu+
the^' tho^i. :).
>
>
>
Doan Hong Nghia
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Topic No. 4
Date: Thu, 27 Mar 1997 12:03:16 GMT
From: huy.duong@ctsu.ox.ac.uk
To: vnsa-l@csd.uwm.edu
Subject: War & statistics
Message-ID: <97032712031693@a2.ctsu.ox.ac.uk>
Dear anh Tuan,
What I meant was that although wars might be related, eg all wars by Napoleon,
because:
1) for example Napleon might not start his wars in one year,
2) for most of the period 1500-1931, ie before the days of global
connectedness, the number of wars that are related to each other is small
compared to all the wars in the world in that period,
it is resonable to see all the wars started in any one year as independent.
Random or otherwise is a property that depends on the level that we observe
and what we can observe and calculate (perhaps quantum effects and only quatum
effects are fundamentally random? Any expert opinions here?). At the level
we are looking at, I think it is reasonable to say that the number of wars that
starts in one year is random. This is not to say that wars start at random.
Eg given that Saddam invaded Kuwait, we would like to think that the decision
to start the Gulf war was not made at random.
I wonder if the rate of war is actually approximately constant for 1500-1931.
Have you got the rate for each of the century or 50 year period in question?
I don't think that because the fit is good you can say that the rate is
constant.
Huy
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Topic No. 5
Date: Thu, 27 Mar 1997 11:59:20 +0100 (MET)
From: Sonnet Nguyen <sonnet@theta1.ifpan.edu.pl>
To: Aiviet Nguyen <aiviet@cat.syr.edu>
Cc: Multiple recipients of list <vnsa-l@csd.uwm.edu>
Subject: Re: TWO questions to experts, (academics & pratical)
Message-ID: <Pine.SGI.3.95.970327112224.26518A-100000@theta1.ifpan.edu.pl>
Hi,
On Wed, 26 Mar 1997, Aiviet Nguyen wrote:
> Sure, there are quite a lot in Fortran and in C. You can also write one
> by yourself if no additional requirements are needed.
Your answer is as usually "too general". Each person perfectly knows
about that.
Of course, I can write (and I've written a lot), but my products are
useful and convenient only for my uses. (For solving only special types
of equations (for eg: fixed functional coefficients, etc.), and
convergence of algorithm is not verified for variety of boundary
conditions)
Let consider for example the Navier-Stokes equation. Problems of
hidrodynamics and fluid dynamics (and many problems of NASA, BOEING) are
reduced to solving this equation with different (arbitrary) boundary
conditions.
But could you imagine yourself a patological boundary consisting of
100.000 different elements? (For interesting applications, boundary
consists of more than 1 million diff. elements). Do you know how many
institutes of fluid dynamics are in the world?
For what, if each student can write a program solving Navier-Stokes
equation. The problem is that program must be convenient (for
engeeners) and algorithm of solving is tested and optimalized.
Not everything is "simple" and "beauty" as in Pure Math or in theoretical
physics.
regards,
SN
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Topic No. 6
Date: Thu, 27 Mar 1997 12:17:30 GMT
From: huy.duong@ctsu.ox.ac.uk
To: vnsa-l@csd.uwm.edu, VNFORUM@saigon.com
Subject: Take something back: Contacts needed
Message-ID: <97032712173025@a2.ctsu.ox.ac.uk>
Dear friends,
I have just talked to my head of department, Prof Richard Peto, one of
the most famous epidemiologists in the worlds. I asked for books, monographs,
journals that the department might throw away. He said that the department
could do better than that, and he offered new and important books and
proceedings--my baggage allowance might not be enough, he offered to invite a
Vietnamese to an international conference--expenses paid, he offered to ask the
journals to give free subscription to certain institutions in Vietnam. But we
need to know what work is being done in Vietnam and what is needed there so
there is no waste.
In epidemiology, we need to know the cause of deaths in the population and the
age at death. Then we can optimize control strategy. How can I find out what is
being done, who are doing it, what they need in Vietnam?
Huy
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Topic No. 7
Date: Thu, 27 Mar 1997 08:15:30 -0500
From: "Toan" <toan@usa.net>
To: <vnsa-l@csd.uwm.edu>
Subject: Re: Chu*~ BA'C trong tie^'ng Viet.
Message-ID: <199703271311.IAA23775@ns.kreative.net>
Cha`o ba'c ga'i va` ca? la`ng,
Mi`nh la` ngu+o+`i dde^` nghi. du`ng Ba'c trong la` ta, nhu+ng cu~ng kho^ng
pgha?i y' cu?a mi`nh dda^u. Chu+~ ba'c dda da.ng, ddu+o+.c du`ng trong
va(n ma.ch nhu+ trong VNSA la^u la('m ro^`i, nhu+ ba'c co' ke^? dde^'n.
Chu+~ <Ba'c> co' nhie^`u tha^n ho+n la^?y, va` to^n ki'nh cu~ng co' ddu?;
cho nhau dda~ ma^'t gi`, dda^u ca^`n pha?i ga(.p ma(.t gia` thi` mo+'i
ki'nh nhau ba'c co' ddo^`ng y' vo+'i mi`nh kho^ng?!
La.i nu+~a la` <ba'c> kho^ng pha^n bie^.t gio+'i pha'i. Nhu+ng mi`nh bie^'t
pha'i be^n a^'y ho+i nga.i du`ng <ba'c> cu~ng vi` tho'i quen xu+a nay be^n
a^'y bi. ba?o <co^ng, dung, ngo^n, ha.nh> nhie^`u ho+n be^n na`y tho^i.
Vo+'i la.i cu+' nghi~ <ba'c> la` lie^n tu+o+?ng to+'i ca'c cu. gia` cho^'ng
ga^.y ne^n be^n a^'y kho^ng muo^'n ca?m nhu+ va^.y, tha^'y kho' chi.u chu+'
gi`.
Tre? la` o+? mi`nh tho^i. Ba'c gia` ba'c tre? gi` cu~ng la` ba'c vo+'i be^n
ni he^'t a`. Va? la.i be^n to+ cu+' nghi~ xem, cha`o anh chi. thi` ga(.p
ba'c cu~ng pha?i thu+a ba'c, ro^`i thi` ga(.p em thi` cu~ng cha`o em, ga(.p
tha^`y thi` la.i da. tha^`y....me^.t chu+a. Ba'c la` ma^~u so^' chung bao
la xa`i cho mo.i <platform> ddang tho+`i trang la('m ddo' be^n to+ a.
Co`n nu+~a, ma^'y ho^m nay ca'c bo^ nha` ta dda'nh Ta`u chu+a xong la.i
choa?ng nhau u dda^`u me? tra'n. Cha('c ma^'y ba'c Ngo^ nhi`n mi`nh cu+o+`i
mo^.t bu.ng dda~ cha'n. Mo+'i thi` xu+ng anh xu+ng chi., ddu`ng ddu`ng le^n
thi` <o^ng a^'y> vo+'i <ho. kia,> a^`m le^m nu+~a thi` <no', bo.n, ke?,
tha(`ng...con> lo^.n xo^.n me^.t la('m. Co' ma^~u so^' chung xa`i ddo+~
la('m be^n a^'y ddo^`ng y' kho^ng?
Ma^'y ddu+'a em cu?a be^n ni o+? trong nha` thi` xu+ng <tui vo+'i o^ng>
vo+'i nhau, ma` tu.i nho' nho'c ti` kho^ng ha`, dda^u co' gia` gi` dda^u.
Nghe cu~ng vui nhu+ thu+o+`ng.
Tho^i, be^n a^'y cho.n ddi:
Ba'c: ma^~u so^' chung ra^'t tho+`i trang, xa`i tre^n mo.i <platform>
Ba'c ga'i: vu+`a to^n tro.ng, vu+`a tre? ma(ng ha`, gia` dde^'n dda^u,
che^m chu+~ ba'c va`o thi` tro+? la.i <ga'i> ddu+o+.c ngay!
Be^n na`y, be^n a^'y: trung la^.p nhu+ng cu~ng ddu+o+.c, ho+i lo^.n xo^.n,
xa`i mo^.t ho^`i kho^ng bie^'t be^n na`o la` na`o!
Chi.: ca'i na`y la` ma^~u so^' rie^ng ddo'!
Em: qua rie^ng, nhie^`u khi kho^ng ne^n xa`i?
Ba`: cha('c pha?i ddo^?i te^n Bi`nh, lo't chu+~ Thi. thi` mo+'i ho+.p
chu+~ na`y.
Co^: tu`y tha'i ddo^. va` la9'm lu'c co`n ca(ng ho+n ba'c nu+~a la`.
Mi`nh vo+'i mi`nh: U'i chu choa, ca'i na`y qua' la` rie^ng ma` cu~ng qua'
la` chung, kho^ng xa`i ngoa`i la`ng ngoa`i cho+. ddu+o+.c dda^u ne^'u
xa`i hai chie^`u.
Ki'nh ba'c be^n a^'y,
Toa`n
==========
From: My Huyen Nguyen <M.H.Nguyen-iq1b7756@lmu.ac.uk>
Hi ca'c "Ba'c" ,
Ba'c la` sao dzi. , tui nghe la. tai qua'
Xin lo^~i cho ca^u ho?i ho*i ngo*' nga^?n cu?a tui hi?
Tui kho^ng hie^?u ta.i sao ma^'y anh chi. la.i du`ng chu*~ Ba'c trong
ca'ch xu*ng ho^ vo*'i nhau . Theo my feeling for vietnamese language ,
ngu*o*`i ta du`ng BA'C khi nguo*`i ta gia^.n ho*`n vo*'i nhau va` muo^'n
no'i la^?y hay la` nguo*`i tre? no'i chuye^.n vo*'i ngu*o*`i gia` va`
muo^'n express su*. to^n ki'nh cu?a mi`nh , pha?i kho^ng ?
Cha(?ng ha.n:
Nha` ca'c Ba'c lu'c na`o cu~ng tie^u bie^?u ca? ;-)
hay
Ba'c co' the^? gia?I thi'ch cho con ...
Tui tha^'y ma^'y anh chi. ta^m dda^`u i' ho*.p trong vie^.c ba`n tha?o 1
va^'n dde^` , thi` chuzy^.n du`ng tu*` BA'C co' thi'ch ho*.p o*? dda^y
kho^ng nhi?
Xin lo^~i ne^'u tui ca?m nha^.n sai , va` xin ca'c BA'C tha thu*' a. ;-)
Cheers
===========
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Topic No. 8
Date: Thu, 27 Mar 1997 20:38:07 +0700 (GMT+0700)
From: Bui Duy Thanh <etc59651@ait.ac.th>
To: Multiple recipients of list <vnsa-l@csd.uwm.edu>
Subject: Re: "Independence" Movement in Xinjiang/China
Message-ID: <Pine.OSF.3.94.970327203614.31534A-100000@alphaserv.ait.ac.th>
On Thu, 27 Mar 1997 Yurong@oes.itri.org.tw wrote:
I suggest you read the newest issue of TIME on March 24 97. I saw an
article about this thing but did not remember it well
>
>
>
>
> Hello, forumors
> You have certainly sometimes heard about movements for independence in
> Taiwan and Tibet. Recently, there are some news about this kind of movement
> in Xinjiang which is one of the largest provinces located in the North-West
> of China.
> Can anyone out there provide me some news about this?
> If Taiwan becomes independent country then Tibet become independent, then
> Xinjiang become independent, then Quangdong become... then China will be
> ....This kind of event may become real ???
>
> Regards
>
>
>
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Topic No. 9
Date: Thu, 27 Mar 1997 15:13:05 +0100 (CET)
From: TPLS <tran@spike.fa.gau.hu>
To: Multiple recipients of list <vnsa-l@csd.uwm.edu>
Subject: Re: Take something back: Contacts needed
Message-ID: <Pine.BSF.3.95q.970327150833.2300C-100000@spike.fa.gau.hu>
Dear anh Huy,
You can contact Peter Higgs. Maybe he can give you some info!!!
His address is
Peter Higgs
Epidemiology and Social Research Unit
Macfarlane Burnet Centre for Medical Research
PO Box 254
Fairfield 3078
telephone 61 3 9282 2143
facsmille 61 3 9482 3123
Peter Higgs <peterh@mbcmr.unimelb.edu.au>
Regards,
Son
> Dear friends,
>
> I have just talked to my head of department, Prof Richard Peto, one of
> the most famous epidemiologists in the worlds. I asked for books, monographs,
> journals that the department might throw away. He said that the department
> could do better than that, and he offered new and important books and
> proceedings--my baggage allowance might not be enough, he offered to invite a
> Vietnamese to an international conference--expenses paid, he offered to ask the
> journals to give free subscription to certain institutions in Vietnam. But we
> need to know what work is being done in Vietnam and what is needed there so
> there is no waste.
>
> In epidemiology, we need to know the cause of deaths in the population and the
> age at death. Then we can optimize control strategy. How can I find out what is
> being done, who are doing it, what they need in Vietnam?
>
> Huy
>
------------------------------
Topic No. 10
Date: Thu, 27 Mar 1997 09:31:36 -0500 (EST)
From: Aiviet Nguyen <aiviet@cat.syr.edu>
To: vnsa-l@csd.uwm.edu
Subject: Re: Take something back to Vietnam
Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.91.970327092124.26474A-100000@lynx.cat.syr.edu>
Hi Anh So+n and friends,
I am faithful to the bottom up approach and found "there are only two
places" a bad idea. Those places have better books than you can have.
Students need text books. I think those places don't need "junky books".
It is not worth to copy and send books in a large scale. ( Of course if
you have connection with a working group in VN occassionally you can do
that).
I have quite different views on this topics. But I don't think the top
down approach believers would be interested in.
Just let you know that there are few places in VN where you can find
more updated books than your Department libraries. ( The budget cut in
the US is universal, don't say that it is not true).
Cheers
Aiviet
On Wed, 26 Mar 1997, Dam Son wrote:
>
> On Wed, 26 Mar 1997, Quoc-Lan Nguyen wrote:
>
> > FAHASA (Co^ng ty phat' hanh` sach' TP HCM) co' dich vu nha^p sach' cu~ (original
> > version) ve^` ban' tru*c tie^p'. U*u tie^n cho cac' sach' ve^` Computer Science,
> > Economic, Management .., va` luo*ng sach' ve^` kho^ng it'. Buo*c' vao` cac'
> > qua^y` sach' nay`, hay nhin` vao` tu? sach' cac' co^ng ty may' tinh', kho' noi'
> > ra*ng` Vnam thie^u' tho^n' tai` lie^u. Cac' chuye^n nganh` khac' (Hoa', Co*
> > Khi' ...) it' sach' ve^` va` cung~ ha^u` nhu* kho^ng co' ai dich ra.
>
> Ca'c sa'ch gia'o khoa hie^.n dda.i o+? My~ ra^'t nhie^`u, ddu? ca'c
> nga`nh, nhu+ng ra^'t dda('t ($70/quye^?n), kho^ng hie^?u ne^'u la`m xerox
> ro^`i gu+?i ve^` thi` co' pha?i la` good idea kho^ng nhi? ?
>
> Also, I recieved an email from Prof. Truong Nguyen Tran in France, in
> which he wrote (we exchanged email about physics books but I guess
> something can be done in other fields):
>
> "It is a good idea to send basic books to VN, as you suggested. I assume
> that you can have the book free of charge and want the vietnamese
> institutions pay for the shipping charge. There are only 2 places which is
> willing to do so but you must have their agreement in advance. These 2
> persons are: Nguyen van Hieu from Hanoi and Tran Ha Anh from the Nuclear
> Research Institute of Dalat."
>
> Son.
>
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Topic No. 11
Date: Thu, 27 Mar 1997 09:47:52 -0500 (EST)
From: Aiviet Nguyen <aiviet@cat.syr.edu>
To: vnsa-l@csd.uwm.edu
Subject: Re: "Independence" Movement in Xinjiang/China
Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.91.970327094038.26474B-100000@lynx.cat.syr.edu>
Hi ANh Vinh,
Ta^n Cu+o+ng xa qua'. Anh ba.n to^i o+? Va^n nam va` Quy' Cha^u muo^'n
ddo^.c la^.p mo+'i dda'ng ke^? kia.
Va^n nam kho^ng co' bie^?n ma` su+? du.ng ca?ng cu?a Qua?ng DDo^ng bi.
charge dda('t ne^n ho. cho la` lie^n minh kinh te^' vo+'i VN dde^? su+?
du.ng ca?ng Ha?i pho`ng co`n re? va` la^u da`i ho+n.
Ca'ch pha^n chia vu`ng kinh te^' che^' sua^'t,...da^~n to+'i ca'c hi`nh
tha'i kinh te^' kha'c nhau. Ca'ch na`y dde^? la`m nu+o+'c Ta`u co' the^?
ta.m tho+`i pha't trie^?n va` giu+~ o^?n ddi.nh, nhu+ng cu~ng la` ma^`m
cu?a na.n su+' qua^n.
Tuy nhie^n tro^ng va`o nhu+~ng di.p may ngoa`i ta^`m ddie^`u khie^?n
kho^ng tho^i thi` cu~ng "Phie^u" pha?i kho^ng anh.
Cheers
Aiviet
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Topic No. 12
Date: Thu, 27 Mar 1997 15:00:57 +0000 (GMT)
From: My Huyen Nguyen <M.H.Nguyen-iq1b7756@lmu.ac.uk>
To: Multiple recipients of list <vnsa-l@csd.uwm.edu>
Subject: Re: Chu*~ BA'C trong tie^'ng Viet.
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.3.95.970327145845.5496C-100000@jess>
O^'i chu choa o*i , tui chi? vie^'t co' va`i ca^u ma` sao "ba'c" ddo^'i
dda'p nhie^`u qua' dzi. thi` la`m mo^ ma` tui ddo.c cho ddu*o*.c ;-)
Thank you anyway for your explaination
Cheers
On Thu, 27 Mar 1997, Toan wrote:
> Cha`o ba'c ga'i va` ca? la`ng,
>
> Mi`nh la` ngu+o+`i dde^` nghi. du`ng Ba'c trong la` ta, nhu+ng cu~ng kho^ng
> pgha?i y' cu?a mi`nh dda^u. Chu+~ ba'c dda da.ng, ddu+o+.c du`ng trong
> va(n ma.ch nhu+ trong VNSA la^u la('m ro^`i, nhu+ ba'c co' ke^? dde^'n.
>
> Chu+~ <Ba'c> co' nhie^`u tha^n ho+n la^?y, va` to^n ki'nh cu~ng co' ddu?;
> cho nhau dda~ ma^'t gi`, dda^u ca^`n pha?i ga(.p ma(.t gia` thi` mo+'i
> ki'nh nhau ba'c co' ddo^`ng y' vo+'i mi`nh kho^ng?!
>
> La.i nu+~a la` <ba'c> kho^ng pha^n bie^.t gio+'i pha'i. Nhu+ng mi`nh bie^'t
> pha'i be^n a^'y ho+i nga.i du`ng <ba'c> cu~ng vi` tho'i quen xu+a nay be^n
> a^'y bi. ba?o <co^ng, dung, ngo^n, ha.nh> nhie^`u ho+n be^n na`y tho^i.
> Vo+'i la.i cu+' nghi~ <ba'c> la` lie^n tu+o+?ng to+'i ca'c cu. gia` cho^'ng
> ga^.y ne^n be^n a^'y kho^ng muo^'n ca?m nhu+ va^.y, tha^'y kho' chi.u chu+'
> gi`.
>
> Tre? la` o+? mi`nh tho^i. Ba'c gia` ba'c tre? gi` cu~ng la` ba'c vo+'i be^n
> ni he^'t a`. Va? la.i be^n to+ cu+' nghi~ xem, cha`o anh chi. thi` ga(.p
> ba'c cu~ng pha?i thu+a ba'c, ro^`i thi` ga(.p em thi` cu~ng cha`o em, ga(.p
> tha^`y thi` la.i da. tha^`y....me^.t chu+a. Ba'c la` ma^~u so^' chung bao
> la xa`i cho mo.i <platform> ddang tho+`i trang la('m ddo' be^n to+ a.
>
> Co`n nu+~a, ma^'y ho^m nay ca'c bo^ nha` ta dda'nh Ta`u chu+a xong la.i
> choa?ng nhau u dda^`u me? tra'n. Cha('c ma^'y ba'c Ngo^ nhi`n mi`nh cu+o+`i
> mo^.t bu.ng dda~ cha'n. Mo+'i thi` xu+ng anh xu+ng chi., ddu`ng ddu`ng le^n
> thi` <o^ng a^'y> vo+'i <ho. kia,> a^`m le^m nu+~a thi` <no', bo.n, ke?,
> tha(`ng...con> lo^.n xo^.n me^.t la('m. Co' ma^~u so^' chung xa`i ddo+~
> la('m be^n a^'y ddo^`ng y' kho^ng?
>
> Ma^'y ddu+'a em cu?a be^n ni o+? trong nha` thi` xu+ng <tui vo+'i o^ng>
> vo+'i nhau, ma` tu.i nho' nho'c ti` kho^ng ha`, dda^u co' gia` gi` dda^u.
> Nghe cu~ng vui nhu+ thu+o+`ng.
>
> Tho^i, be^n a^'y cho.n ddi:
>
> Ba'c: ma^~u so^' chung ra^'t tho+`i trang, xa`i tre^n mo.i <platform>
> Ba'c ga'i: vu+`a to^n tro.ng, vu+`a tre? ma(ng ha`, gia` dde^'n dda^u,
> che^m chu+~ ba'c va`o thi` tro+? la.i <ga'i> ddu+o+.c ngay!
> Be^n na`y, be^n a^'y: trung la^.p nhu+ng cu~ng ddu+o+.c, ho+i lo^.n xo^.n,
> xa`i mo^.t ho^`i kho^ng bie^'t be^n na`o la` na`o!
> Chi.: ca'i na`y la` ma^~u so^' rie^ng ddo'!
>
> Em: qua rie^ng, nhie^`u khi kho^ng ne^n xa`i?
>
> Ba`: cha('c pha?i ddo^?i te^n Bi`nh, lo't chu+~ Thi. thi` mo+'i ho+.p
> chu+~ na`y.
>
> Co^: tu`y tha'i ddo^. va` la9'm lu'c co`n ca(ng ho+n ba'c nu+~a la`.
>
> Mi`nh vo+'i mi`nh: U'i chu choa, ca'i na`y qua' la` rie^ng ma` cu~ng qua'
> la` chung, kho^ng xa`i ngoa`i la`ng ngoa`i cho+. ddu+o+.c dda^u ne^'u
> xa`i hai chie^`u.
>
> Ki'nh ba'c be^n a^'y,
>
> Toa`n
>
> ==========
> From: My Huyen Nguyen <M.H.Nguyen-iq1b7756@lmu.ac.uk>
>
> Hi ca'c "Ba'c" ,
> Ba'c la` sao dzi. , tui nghe la. tai qua'
> Xin lo^~i cho ca^u ho?i ho*i ngo*' nga^?n cu?a tui hi?
> Tui kho^ng hie^?u ta.i sao ma^'y anh chi. la.i du`ng chu*~ Ba'c trong
> ca'ch xu*ng ho^ vo*'i nhau . Theo my feeling for vietnamese language ,
> ngu*o*`i ta du`ng BA'C khi nguo*`i ta gia^.n ho*`n vo*'i nhau va` muo^'n
> no'i la^?y hay la` nguo*`i tre? no'i chuye^.n vo*'i ngu*o*`i gia` va`
> muo^'n express su*. to^n ki'nh cu?a mi`nh , pha?i kho^ng ?
> Cha(?ng ha.n:
>
> Nha` ca'c Ba'c lu'c na`o cu~ng tie^u bie^?u ca? ;-)
> hay
> Ba'c co' the^? gia?I thi'ch cho con ...
>
> Tui tha^'y ma^'y anh chi. ta^m dda^`u i' ho*.p trong vie^.c ba`n tha?o 1
> va^'n dde^` , thi` chuzy^.n du`ng tu*` BA'C co' thi'ch ho*.p o*? dda^y
> kho^ng nhi?
>
> Xin lo^~i ne^'u tui ca?m nha^.n sai , va` xin ca'c BA'C tha thu*' a. ;-)
>
> Cheers
> ===========
>
>
>
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Topic No. 13
Date: Tue, 25 Mar 1997 00:11:04 -0600
From: Judy Ladinsky <jlladins@facstaff.wisc.edu>
To: vnsa-l@csd.uwm.edu
Subject: Re: Take something back: Contacts needed
Message-ID: <199703271506.JAA19144@audumla.students.wisc.edu>
At 06:22 AM 3/27/97 -0600, you wrote:
>Dear friends,
>
>I have just talked to my head of department, Prof Richard Peto, one of
>the most famous epidemiologists in the worlds. I asked for books, monographs,
>journals that the department might throw away. He said that the department
>could do better than that, and he offered new and important books and
>proceedings--my baggage allowance might not be enough, he offered to invite a
>Vietnamese to an international conference--expenses paid, he offered to ask
the
>journals to give free subscription to certain institutions in Vietnam. But we
>need to know what work is being done in Vietnam and what is needed there so
>there is no waste.
>
>In epidemiology, we need to know the cause of deaths in the population and the
>age at death. Then we can optimize control strategy. How can I find out
what is
>being done, who are doing it, what they need in Vietnam?
>
>Huy
Dear Huy
Epidemiology in Vietnam is being done by the Pasteur Institute in HCMC
for all the southern provinces
the Pasteur Institute in Nha Trang for the central Provinces and the
National Institute of Hygiene and Epidemiology
for the northern provinces and the synthesis of all data for the country.
There is also a division of Epidemiology
in the Ministry of Health. There is a systematic methodology for data
collection for the whole country in place and operrating fairly well.
The US Committee for Scientific Cooperation with Vietnam sends about l4
tons a year of scientific and medical books
and journals to various Institute and organizational libraries. Please
contact me if you need further information or detail
at 608-263-4l50. The agreement is that all books and journals must be
published within the last 5 years. They do not want
old books. They have subscriptions to many of the journals now. I
agree, please find out what they have and what they need
before sending. If you wish I can assistyou. Also please understand that
many other countries are also assisting Vietnam
Best wishes
Dr. Judith L. Ladinsky
USCFSCWVN
>
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Topic No. 14
Date: Thu, 27 Mar 1997 10:09:04 -0500 (EST)
From: Aiviet Nguyen <aiviet@cat.syr.edu>
To: vnsa-l@csd.uwm.edu
Subject: Re: TWO questions to experts ...
Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.91.970327095138.26474C-100000@lynx.cat.syr.edu>
Hi Anh Quoc-Lan,
The CERN Library package can be listed from any Physics Department
that affiliates with CERN. You may want to try with some Physics
Institution nearby.
There are few different programs for ODE and PDE in those packages
for your taste. I think the algorithm just for solving the equation is
not interesting. The strength of CERN packages is the error control and
the stability of the program. These codes have been written and tested
again and again on High-Energy Physics projects ( The largest number
punching benchmarks in the world). We can consider them as perfect at
least at the level of VNSA.
In the C or Fortran Recipes by the group of Cornell you can find
very simplified version of the used algorithm without strong error
controls. Those recipes are good for daily use and for non-stiff
equations.
I like the Runge-Kutta shooting for boundary condition problems
and finite element methods.
I don't think that in Algorithms we have some big discovery. This
area has been well explored by generations. My friend an expert in
Computing Hydrodynamics said that nowaday all algorithms are the same.
You can look at NASA archives for a lot of Algorithms in PDE and ODE.
I am sorry that I also share the same viewpoint with my friend so has been
trusting only in well tested algorithms.
Cheers
Aiviet
On Thu, 27 Mar 1997, Quoc-Lan Nguyen wrote:
> > Sure, there are quite a lot in Fortran and in C. You can also write one
> > by yourself if no additional requirements are needed.
> > The standard library package of CERN or CORNELL has very good error control
> > and very stable.
> > The program does not know that the equation has solution or not. So if
> > you specify a smalll error, the algorithm will not be convergent and will
> > loop forever. If you specify a large enough error, it will output some
> > solution depending on the starting point.
> > Cheers
> > Aiviet
> > PS: Are you interested in the Algorithm they use in those packages?
>
> Xin phep' bac' Aiviet de tui chen vo. Tui quan ta^m de^n' cac' Algorithm xu dung
> trong cac' pha^n` me^m` do', cang` ty? my? cang` to^t'. Cha*ng? hay bac' Aiviet
> co' the^? cho bie^t' dia chi? de^? tim` doc?
>
> Cam' o*n truo*c',
>
> QLa^n
>
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Topic No. 15
Date: Thu, 27 Mar 1997 10:12:38 -0500 (EST)
From: Aiviet Nguyen <aiviet@cat.syr.edu>
To: vnsa-l@csd.uwm.edu
Subject: Re: Specificity
Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.91.970327100944.26474D-100000@lynx.cat.syr.edu>
Anh Du~ng cha('c kho^ng hie^?u nhie^`u ve^` dda' ga`.
Ga` ma` dda' hay la` dda' ca`ng i't ca`ng to^'t. Dda' vo+' va^?n ho?ng
ma^'t ga`.
A^'y la` to^i hy vo.ng va^.y. Bie^'t dda^u la.i co' nhie^`u tru+o+`ng
pha'i, la.i co' di.p mo+? mang kie^'n thu+'c.
Aiviet
On Thu, 27 Mar 1997, Dung Trong Nguyen wrote:
> VU KHAC Tri <tvk@info.fundp.ac.be> wrote:
>
> > Cha`o ca'c ba.n,
> >
> > DDo.c ba`i na`y ma` thu*.c lo`ng tha^'y kho^ng vui/. Trong khi dda^'t
> > nu*o*'c co`n nghe`o, da^n mi`nh co`n nhie^`u ngu*o*`i kho^?/. Vui ca'i
> > no^~i gi`, gio?i ca'i no^~i gi` ma` giu*o*ng mo? "ti?a to't" nhau o*?
> > ca'i xu*' na`y/. Nghe ra ma` the^m ra^`u tho^i/.
> > To^i cha('c cha('n VN co' ca^u:
> > "Ga` cu`ng mo^.t me. cho*' hoa`i dda' nhau"
> > Nhu*ng kho^ng nho*' tu*` ba`i tho* ca na`o/. Ai bie^'t xin post cho ddu?
> > ba`i/.
> >
> > Ca'm o*n/.
>
> Hi ba'c Tri',
>
> Ca^u ddu? hi`nh nhu+ the^' na`y:
>
> Kho^n ngoan ddo^'i dda'p ngu+o+`i ngoa`i
> Ga` cu`ng mo^.t me. cho+' hoa`i dda' nhau
>
> Nhu+ng to^i cho la` ga` cu`ng mo^.t me. cu~ng pha?i thu+o+`ng xuye^n
> ta^.p do+.t dda' nhau cho+i\. Khi mang ddi dda' ddo^. thi` mo+'i
> tru'ng gia?i ddu+o+.c cho+' :)
>
> Cheers, d~
>
------------------------------
Topic No. 16
Date: Thu, 27 Mar 1997 10:20:51 -0500 (EST)
From: Aiviet Nguyen <aiviet@cat.syr.edu>
To: vnsa-l@csd.uwm.edu
Subject: Re: Ti'nh ca'ch... (3)
Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.91.970327101825.26474E-100000@lynx.cat.syr.edu>
Hi Anh Tie^'n,
To^i tu+o+?ng Ngo^. vo+'i Nga~ la` mo^.t. Ne^'u xoa'y la^u qua' ro^`i
thi` " cha^'m dda^'t ma^'t ddo`i". Tu+` tho+`i la tin thi` kha'c xoa'y
tu+` nhu+ Be, Ghi,...cho+'.
Cheers
Aiviet
On Thu, 27 Mar 1997, Tran Minh Tien wrote:
> >
> > Nhu+ng Ta`u chi? co' Ngo^. vo+'i Ni. tho^i. Co`n ta thi` co' ca? ta^'n chu+~.
>
> Co`n nga~ nu+~a\. Ngay ca? to^i, ta ... to^i cu~ng ngo+` co' go^'c Ta`u\.
> Ne^'u no'i tie^'ng Anh kho^ng xoa'y cu?a DDu+'c thi` DDu+'c xoa'y cu?a
> Latin va^.y\.
>
> Cheers, Tien.
>
>
> > Kho^ng the^? no'i tie^'ng Anh la` xoa'y cu?a Ddu+'c ddu+o+.c vi` chi'nh
> > da^n A(nglo-Saxon cu~ng la` gio`ng Nha^.t nhi~ man tu+` Ddan ma.ch qua.
> > Cheers
> > NAV
> >
>
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Topic No. 17
Date: Thu, 27 Mar 1997 10:22:17 -0500 (EST)
From: Aiviet Nguyen <aiviet@cat.syr.edu>
To: vnsa-l@csd.uwm.edu
Subject: Re: Paracels and Spratleys
Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.91.970327102139.26474F-100000@lynx.cat.syr.edu>
Good design idea, but hard to implement.
On Thu, 27 Mar 1997 huy.duong@ctsu.ox.ac.uk wrote:
> Dear friends,
>
> I have an idea on how to divide these archipelagoes and their
> related resources. I think this idea is geographical and not
> political/nationalistic and thereby avoids many conflicts.
> What do you think?
>
> For an archipelago, find the `centre of gravity', this CoG represents the
> archipelago.
>
> A small bit of coastline will exert an ownership on the CoG that is:
> 1)proportional to the angle substended at the CoG,
> 2)inversely proportional to some power, eg 1, of the distance
> from the CoG.
>
> (The reason for rule (2) is as follows. Suppose country A has a coastline
> that is a semicircle of radius a centred on an island and country B has a
> coastline that is a semicircle of radius b(>a) also centred on the island.
> Although both coastlines substend the same angle of 180 degrees on the island,
> A is nearer and should have more ownership.)
>
> For each country, calculate the ownership by all bits of coastline
> that satisfy the following conditions:
> a)used by the international convention of the seas to calculate
> ownership of the seas,
> b)a straight line (strictly speaking a geodesic) can be drawn from that bit of
> coastline to the CoG without going over (i) that country's or (ii) other
> countries' land.
>
> (The reason for (i) is so that for example the Indian Ocean coast of Malyasia
> is irrelevant. The reason for (ii) is so that Australia's coast is irrelevant.)
>
> The resources related to the archipelago are defined by the international
> convention of the seas. They are then jointly exploited and the costs and
> benefits divided among the countries according to the ratios of ownership.
>
> Huy
>
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Topic No. 18
Date: Thu, 27 Mar 1997 10:34:40 -0500 (EST)
From: Aiviet Nguyen <aiviet@cat.syr.edu>
To: Sonnet Nguyen <sonnet@theta1.ifpan.edu.pl>
Cc: Multiple recipients of list <vnsa-l@csd.uwm.edu>
Subject: Re: TWO questions to experts, (academics & pratical)
Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.91.970327102951.26474H-100000@lynx.cat.syr.edu>
Hi Sonnet,
You should be more specific in questioning. I think I perfectly answered
your questions. Remember that I can answer only want you asked and not
what you wanted to ask.
I have few hand-on working experience on PDE and ODE programming, and
not at Pure Math Level at all. However, it is not smart to use the
most sophisticated when not neccessary.
Be more specific and we will talk more or I will disappear from this
topics.
Cheers
Aiviet
On Thu, 27 Mar 1997, Sonnet Nguyen wrote:
> Hi,
> On Wed, 26 Mar 1997, Aiviet Nguyen wrote:
>
> > Sure, there are quite a lot in Fortran and in C. You can also write one
> > by yourself if no additional requirements are needed.
>
>
> Your answer is as usually "too general". Each person perfectly knows
> about that.
> Of course, I can write (and I've written a lot), but my products are
> useful and convenient only for my uses. (For solving only special types
> of equations (for eg: fixed functional coefficients, etc.), and
> convergence of algorithm is not verified for variety of boundary
> conditions)
>
> Let consider for example the Navier-Stokes equation. Problems of
> hidrodynamics and fluid dynamics (and many problems of NASA, BOEING) are
> reduced to solving this equation with different (arbitrary) boundary
> conditions.
> But could you imagine yourself a patological boundary consisting of
> 100.000 different elements? (For interesting applications, boundary
> consists of more than 1 million diff. elements). Do you know how many
> institutes of fluid dynamics are in the world?
> For what, if each student can write a program solving Navier-Stokes
> equation. The problem is that program must be convenient (for
> engeeners) and algorithm of solving is tested and optimalized.
> Not everything is "simple" and "beauty" as in Pure Math or in theoretical
> physics.
>
> regards,
> SN
>
>
>
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Topic No. 19
Date: Thu, 27 Mar 1997 16:32:16 +0100
From: Quoc-Lan Nguyen <Quoc-Lan.Nguyen@imag.fr>
To: vnsa-l@csd.uwm.edu
Subject: Re: TWO questions to experts ...
Message-ID: <199703271532.QAA16426@seth.imag.fr>
Cam' o*n bac' Aiviet vi` da~ tra? lo*i` ..:)
QLa^n
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Topic No. 20
Date: Thu, 27 Mar 1997 16:47:43 +0100 (MET)
From: Tran Minh Tien <tran@idefix.mpipks-dresden.mpg.de>
To: vnsa-l@csd.uwm.edu
Subject: Re: Ti'nh ca'ch... (3)
Message-ID: <9703271547.AA21437@idefix.mpipks-dresden.mpg.de>
>
>
> Hi Anh Tie^'n,
> To^i tu+o+?ng Ngo^. vo+'i Nga~ la` mo^.t. Ne^'u xoa'y la^u qua' ro^`i
Ne^'u "ngo^." vo+'i "nga~" la` mo^.t, thi` co`n "ngo^" nu+~a\.
Ne^'u xoa'y la^u qua' thi` "lu.c", "lam" ... cu~ng xoa'y tu+`
tho+`i Ma~ Vie^.n ro^`i\.
Ma`u sa('c o+? dda^u cu~ng the^' tho^i\. Ngu+o+`i ta bao gio+`
cu~ng "quan va^.t thu? tu+o+.ng", sau ddo' mo+'i kha'i qua't
tha`nh ma`u (tru+` ddi xoa'y cu?a thie^n ha.), nhu+ "bi'ch"
la` ma`u 1 loa.i ngo.c, "thanh" la` chi? ma`u xanh cu?a ca^y,
ca'i la' ddang dda^m cho^`i, "xi'ch" la` ma`u ngo.n lu+?a trong lo`,
"ha('c" la` ma`u muo^.i than trong be^'p ... Cha? cu+' ma`u,
thu+' kha'c cu~ng the^'\.
Chi? co' ddie^`u kho^ng tha^'y trong chu+~ Ha'n tu+` chi
tu+o+ng tu+. nhu+ "ma`u cu+'t ngu+.a" ... Cu+' theo quan
ddie^?m "quan va^.t thu? tu+o+.ng" thi` te' ra ca'c cu.
nha` ta nhi`n pha^n (sorry !) dde^? la^'y tu+o+.ng va`
tru+`u tu+o+.ng ho'a\.
Cheers,
Tran Minh Tien
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Topic No. 21
Date: Fri, 28 Mar 1997 01:09:58 JST
From: Dung Trong Nguyen <nguyen@jaist.ac.jp>
To: vnsa-l@csd.uwm.edu
Subject: Re: Specificity
Message-ID: <199703271609.BAA18889@mikan.jaist.ac.jp>
> Anh Du~ng cha('c kho^ng hie^?u nhie^`u ve^` dda' ga`.
> Ga` ma` dda' hay la` dda' ca`ng i't ca`ng to^'t. Dda' vo+' va^?n ho?ng
> ma^'t ga`.
>
> A^'y la` to^i hy vo.ng va^.y. Bie^'t dda^u la.i co' nhie^`u tru+o+`ng
> pha'i, la.i co' di.p mo+? mang kie^'n thu+'c.
> Aiviet
Cha`o anh Vie^.t. DDo^`ng y' vo+'i anh la` ga` hay kho^ng the^? mang
ddi dda' vo+' va^?n ddu+o+.c. Y' to^i muo^'n no'i la` ca^`n pha?i
"va^`n" ga` thu+o+`ng xuye^n tho^i\. Nghi~a la` bi.t cu+.a (co' khi
ca? mo?) cho hai con dda' nhau, dde^? ta^.p tho^i\. Ta^.p xong la.i
bo'p ba(`ng nu+o+'c nghe^. va` ru+o+.u. Co' the^' thi` da co^? mo+'i
da`y dde^? chi.u ddu+o+.c nhu+~ng cu' dda' co' cu+.a, su+'c dai dde^?
dda' ddu+o+.c be^`n, va` nha^'t la` cho ga` kho?i be'o qua', "mo^.ng
na(ng" kho^ng nha?y ddu+o+.c :)
Kha'c vo+'i chim ca^u, ga` tro^'ng choai cu`ng mo^.t lu+'a sau khi
dda'nh nhau mo^.t la^`n ra^'t du+~ (khoa?ng trong tho+`i gian ta^.p
ga'y), go.i la` tra^.n pha^n dda`n thi` kho^ng bao gio+` chi.u dda'nh
nhau nu+~a. Con chua se~ chi.u pha^.n la`m em suo^'t ddo+`i. DDo^i
khi vi` kho^ng ti`m ddu+o+.c ba.n co' ga` ddo^`ng la.ng dde^? va^`n
ma` chu? ga` pha?i cho hai con cu`ng dda`n ta^.p vo+'i nhau\. Muo^'n
chu'ng kho^ng nha^.n ra nhau ma` dda'nh nhau, ngu+o+`i ta pha?i du`ng
nho. no^`i tro^.n vo+'i mo+~ ma` bo^i ma(.t i't nha^'t la` con "anh".
Ca^u "ga` nha` bo^i ma(.t dda' nhau" to^i ddoa'n la` the^'.
Ho^`i be' to^i ra^'t thi'ch xem dda' ga`, nhu+ng nuo^i thi` cha(?ng
dda^u va`o dda^u\. Nha` to^i ddie^`u kie^.n cha^.t cho^.i qua', ga`
kho^ng co' cho^~ dde^? pho+i na('ng, ddi la.i. Ta^.n ti`nh he^'t
su+'c ma` ga` toa`n ru`. Nuo^i ca' cho.i de^~ ho+n nhie^`u. Cho.i
ca' cu~ng ha^'p da^~n kho^ng ke'm. Kho^ng bie^'t anh co' thi'ch ca'
cho.i kho^ng ?
Cheers, d~
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End of VNSA-L Digest 307
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