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VNSA-L digest 292



			    VNSA-L Digest 292

Topics covered in this issue include:

  1) Re: China & Vietnam
	by vuca@envi.env.civil.saitama-u.ac.jp (Vu Thanh Ca)
  2) RE: China and VN
	by Tuan Pham <tuan.pham@unsw.edu.au>
  3) Ba'o VN: Tho+ Die^.p MT, Huy Ca^.n tu+` ba'o Va(n Nghe^.
	by AnHai Doan <anhai@cs.washington.edu>
  4) Ba'o VN: Bia o^m, ma't-xa, ma.i da^m mie^.t vu+o+`n
	by AnHai Doan <anhai@cs.washington.edu>
  5) Ba'o VN: Bo'ng dda' VN - Khoa?ng ca'ch chu+a an toa`n
	by AnHai Doan <anhai@cs.washington.edu>
  6) Ba'o VN: Ve^` chuye^.n ra ddi cu?a HLV Weigang
	by AnHai Doan <anhai@cs.washington.edu>
  7) Ba'o VN: Sa^n kha^'u Nho? Nha` VH Lao DDo^.ng TP HCM
	by AnHai Doan <anhai@cs.washington.edu>
  8) Re: Vietnam and China
	by "Toan" <toan@usa.net>
  9) Misc: Va`i quy ddinh cu?a bo^. GD va` DT (fwd)
	by AnHai Doan <anhai@cs.washington.edu>
 10) Chuye^.n cu+o+`i (fwd)
	by AnHai Doan <anhai@cs.washington.edu>
 11) FOUND!!!: chu+~ Vie^.t NT
	by "Toan" <toan@usa.net>
 12) Thanks (Re: One question to ..)
	by Sonnet Nguyen <Sonnet.Nguyen@fuw.edu.pl>
 13) Nho+' ve^` HP: "Tha`nh pho^' hoa phu+o+.ng ddo?"
	by AnHai Doan <anhai@cs.washington.edu>
 14) [POEM] The saddest poem of  Xa^n Die^.u
	by Nguyen Toan Quoc <t.nguyen@elvis.murdoch.edu.au>
 15) HELP !!!
	by "Doan Hong Nghia" <nghia@telemedia.hu>

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Topic No. 1

Date: Fri, 21 Mar 97 14:56:35 JST
From: vuca@envi.env.civil.saitama-u.ac.jp (Vu Thanh Ca)
To: vnsa-l@csd.uwm.edu
Subject: Re: China & Vietnam
Message-ID: <9703210556.AA00940@envi.env.civil.saitama-u.ac.jp>

Cha`o ca'c ba'c,

Ba^.n qua' nhu+ng tha^'y vu. na`y nu+o+'c so^i lu+?a bo?ng qua' ne^n go'p
mo^.t ty'.

Tru+o+'c he^'t, to^i tha^'y mu+`ng la` i't nha^'t nha` khoa ho.c tre? So+n Net
dda~ ta.m bo? y' ddi.nh tu+ duy theo bi`nh die^.n quo^'c te^" dde^? tro+? la.i
vo+'i chu? nghi~a da^n to^.c Vie^.t nam (Ba'c SN ddu+`ng gia^.n nhe', nhu+ng
to^i kho^ng co' ddo^`ng y' vo+'i chu? nghi~a quo^'c te^' cu?a ba'c dda^u).

Ca?m o+n ta^'t ca? ca'c ba'c ve^` tinh tha^`n da^n to^.c Vie^.t nam.

Ve^` tha(`ng Ta`u thi` me^.t dda^'y ca'c ba'c a.. Ca'c ba'c co' bie^'t la`
ho^`i dda'nh
nhau vo+'i My~, ta`u My~ ngang nhie^n neo ngoa`i kho+i, o+? trong bo+` 
nhi`n tha^'y ma` kho^ng da'm ba('n kho^ng? Muo^'n ba('n 1 ta`u, ban dde^m
bo^. ddo^.i
ke'o pha'o ve^`, chua^?n bi. sa(~n sa`ng, ba^'t thi`nh li`nh ta^.p trung
ba('n cha'y
ta`u ro^`i ke'o pha'o cha.y tha(?ng. O+? la.i mo^.t nga`y cho^~ bo+` bie^?n
la` tha`nh tro bu.i.

Ca'c ba'c co' bie^'t la` ha?i qua^n ta ma.nh the^' na`o kho^ng? Co' nhie^`u ta`u
ddang cha.y tre^n bie^?n thi` tu+. nhie^n che^'t ma'y, tre^n ta`u kho^ng co' ca?
dde^'n ma'y ddi.nh vi. :))), ne^n kho^ng hie^?u ta`u ddang o+? cho^~ na`o. 
DDie^.n ve^` BTLHQ xin cu+'u, nhu+ng o+? nha` chi.u cu+'ng, kho^ng hie^?u
ta`u ddang o+? dda^u ca? ma` cu+'u. DDa`nh cu+' dde^? ta`u tro^i gia.t, "nho+`
tro+`i", may ra ti`m ddu+o+.c.

Ma^'y o^ng ba.n to^i ddi ta`u Ha?i Qua^n dde^? kha?o sa't bie^?n, nho+` ca'i vu.
na`y ma` ddu+o+.c gia.t va`o bo+` bie^?n thuo^.c Singapore dda^'y.

Taiwan la` mo^.t ti?nh cu?a TQ, giu+~ mi`nh co`n cha(?ng no^?i, sao da'm nghi~
to+'i giu'p ai. Ma` Taiwan cu~ng la` Ta`u, cu~ng muo^'n a(n tu+o+i nuo^'t so^'ng
ta la('m ddo'.

Nha^.t ba?n thi` so+. Ta`u mo^.t phe'p, cha? da.i gi` da^y va`o Ta`u dda^u. Co`n
ngu+o+`i ba?o ve^. nha^n quye^`n Me~o thi` kho^ng bie^'t co' le^n tie^'ng ca?nh
ca'o Ta`u ddu+o+.c kho^ng a^'y chu+'. Nga thi` ne^n que^n ddi. Ma^'y vu. Ta`u 
dda'nh ta, Nga chi? to mo^`m chu+' co' la`m gi` dda^u.

To'm la.i la` TU+. TA PHA?I CU+'U LA^'Y TA. Ta pha?i ma.nh le^n thi` mo+'i
dda'nh ddu+o+.c Ta`u. Ngu+o+`i Vie^.t ta hay dda'nh nhau va` co`n nhie^`u
thu` ha^.n qua'. No'i gi` thi` no'i, ca^`n pha?i que^n thu` rie^ng, ho+.p
ta'c vo+'i 
nhau, xa^y nu+o+'c ta gia`u ma.nh ca`ng so+'m ca`ng to^'t. No'i thi` de^~, la`m
thi` kho'. Ma` chu+a bie^'t chu+`ng la.i co' ba'c na`o kie^.n to^i vi` ke^u go.i
ddoa`n ke^'t a^'y chu+'.

Mong ra(`ng ta ki.p ma.nh le^n tru+o+'c khi Ta`u dda'nh ta.

Ca.



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Topic No. 2

Date: Fri, 21 Mar 1997 18:30:22 -0800
From: Tuan Pham <tuan.pham@unsw.edu.au>
To: vnsa-l <vnsa-l@csd.uwm.edu>
Subject: RE: China and VN
Message-ID: <3333443E.49A4@unsw.edu.au>

Hi

Buu Long made an excellent point. Globally, NEVER has VN
been so weak as at present, compared to other countries
in the region and the world. Never has it been in a
situation where it is poorer and 
technologically more backward than all its neighbours, save 
Cambodia and Laos, and behind most countries in the
world. What has saved VN so far is a delicate balance of 
world power - which won't last forever. In 50 years or
so, there is no country who can balance China's power
in this region - not even the USA.

Fancy footwork, rhetorics and the like may work once, twice, 
three times... but eventually our luck will run out, unless
VN take steps to rectify the situation.

VN must progress, must integrate into the world economy,
must leapfrog China, must become a Korea in the next 30 years.
Otherwise there is little hope for Vietnam. There is not
infinite time to play around.

Cheers?
Tuan Pham

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Topic No. 3

Date: Thu, 20 Mar 1997 23:48:47 -0800 (PST)
From: AnHai Doan <anhai@cs.washington.edu>
To: vnsa-l@csd.uwm.edu
Subject: Ba'o VN: Tho+ Die^.p MT, Huy Ca^.n tu+` ba'o Va(n Nghe^.
Message-ID: <Pine.ULT.3.93.970320234623.23064A-100000@june.cs.washington.edu>


Ba'o VN servive
===============

Nhu+~ng ba`i tho+ trong ba'o Va(n Nghe^. so^' Te^'t (so^' 5+6, tha'ng 2/1997)

*La~ng dda~ng kho'i su+o+ng- Di.e^p Minh Tuye^`n

        Xe tro+? ta tru+o+`n le^n ddi?nh nu'i
        Be^`nh bo^`ng tro^i giu+~a tra('ng ma^y bay
        Tam dda?o tro+`i cao xanh dda('m dduo^'i
        Ti`nh dda^'t, ti`nh ngu+o+`i che^'nh choa'ng say

        Ba.n cu~ bao nga`y xa dda(`ng dda(~ng
        Bo^~ng nhie^n tao ngo^. giu+~a cho^'n na`y
        Le^n cao mi`nh nha^.u cu`ng ma^y tra('ng
        Mie^.ng ho+'p ngu.m bia hay uo^'ng ma^y?

        Gio.ng no'i bay xa cu`ng gio' nu'i
        E^m dde^`m ho+i tho+? bu.i mu+a vu+o+ng
        Ti`nh ta la~ng dda~ng nhu+ su+o+ng kho'i
        Mai mo^'t ta ve^` nho+' kho'i su+o+ng

        Tro+`i phu' cho ta tha`nh thi si~
        Suo^'t ddo+`i Nam, Ba('c ma?i ngu+o+.c xuo^i
        Vo+'i ta dda^u cu~ng la` xu+' so+?
        Dda^u cu~ng la` no+i Que^ hu+o+ng tho^i

        Ta dde^'n, ta ye^u, ta to^`n ta.i
        Dda^'t nu+o+'c no+i dda^u cu~ng nghi~a ti`nh
        Mo^~i lu'c ta ve^` ta go+?i la.i
        Mo^~i no+i mo^.t go'c tra'i tim mi`nh

                        8-11-96

* Hie^?u ra mu`a xua^n - Ddo^ng Tri`nh
        Thuo+? a^'y na`o to^i co' bie^'t gi`
        Mu`a Xua^n non ne?o na('m tay ddi
        La' ca^y mo+n mo+?n xanh mo^i gio'
        Va` gio' vo^ ti`nh xanh lo^'i que^

        Kho^ng hie^?u vi` sao no^~i nho+' nha`
        Na(.ng lo`ng day du+'t ddu+'a con xa
        Chuye^'n ta`u Ba mu+o+i kho^ng co`n ve'
        Ngu+o+`i ve^` ba^.t kho'c giu+~a sa^n ga!

        Va` em to^i - co^ ga'i lo+~ ddu+o+`ng
        Ro+`i que^ nghe`o ca^`u thu+.c tha phu+o+ng
        Cuo^'i na(m kho^ng co' tie^`n ve^` Te^'t
        Qua'n tro. .. giao thu+`a .. tha('p ne'n hu+o+ng ...

        Cu+' tu+o+?ng trong em cha(?ng co`n gi`
        Mie^'ng co+m manh a'o nha.t lu+o+ng tri
        Nu+o+'c cha?y hoa tro^i, ghe^`nh tha'c xoa'y
        Dde^m giao thu+`a bu+`ng ddo^'m lu+?a que^!

        The^' dda^'y ... Mu`a Xua^n to^i hie^?u ra
        Nhu+~ng gi` ta`n ru.ng cu?a nga`y qua
        Khe'p mo^.t chu ky` - Ddo+`i lo^.c bie^'c
        Trong tre?o co^.i nguo^`n dda^'t no+? hoa ...

* Mo+? ho^.i - Huy Ca^.n

Pha?i cha(ng dda^y ngo~ cha`ng Thi nha^n
Cho lu~ chim to^i nha('n mo^.t va^`n
Co' pha?i lo`ng anh tha thie^'t giu.c
Co^? chim cu~ng ro^.n tie^'ng va`ng nga^n?

Pha?i cha(ng dda^y ngo~ cu?a cha`ng tho+
Cho lu~ hoa to^i ddu+o+.c gu+?i nho+`
Xin ma(.c vi` cha`ng bao a'o dde.p
Vi` cha`ng dda^'t me. dda~ na(`m mo+

Chu'ng to^i lu~ bu+o+'m mo+'i ra ddo+`i
Go'p vo+'i chim hoa nha('n gu+?i lo+`i
Asnh sa'ng go~ hoa`i be^n cu+?a ke'n
Vi` cha`ng xin dde^'n qua.t xa kho+i

Pha?i cha(ng dda^y ngo~ cha`ng-me^-say
Ta ha~y va`o tha(m vo+'i a'nh nga`y
Vu+`a nha^.p ddo+`i vui ta ha~y dde^'n
Ti`m cha`ng mo+? ho^.i dde^? cha`ng hay

Nhu+~ng lu'c ho^`n cha`ng nghie^ng nu'i so^ng
Chu'ng em la` bo'ng dde.p vo^ cu`ng
Bu+o+'m chim ha't da.o ba`i xua^n tre?
Ngoa`i no^.i hoa ve^` phu't phu't ddo^ng

Cu+?a vu+`a he' mo+?. Bu+o+'m, chim, hoa
Trao ta(.ng nha` tho+ mo^'i ca?m ho`a
Thi si~ ra(`ng :
  Chim ca bu+o+'m da.o,
Hoa cu+o+`i! Ta ngo+~ a^'y lo`ng ta.









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Topic No. 4

Date: Thu, 20 Mar 1997 23:51:52 -0800 (PST)
From: AnHai Doan <anhai@cs.washington.edu>
To: vnsa-l@csd.uwm.edu
Subject: Ba'o VN: Bia o^m, ma't-xa, ma.i da^m mie^.t vu+o+`n
Message-ID: <Pine.ULT.3.93.970320234912.23064B-100000@june.cs.washington.edu>


Ba'o VN service
================
Te^. na.n xa~ ho^.i
Bia o^m, ma't-xa, ma.i da^m mie^.t vu+o+`n

Tra^`n Ngo.c - Ddo^~ Tha`nh
Ba'o Ngu+o+`i Lao ddo^.ng So^' 362 (12/3/1997)

* Tu+` bia o^m ha. ba?ng hie^.u dde^'n bia... "dda'm gio^~"
* Du li.ch ho^` Bi`nh An... kho^ng bi`nh ye^n

Chu'ng ta kho^ng the^? phu?  nha^.n su+.  chuye^?n bie^'n ti'ch cu+.c sau
tho+`i gian thu+.c hie^.n Nghi. ddi.nh 87-88/CP va` Chi?  thi. 814/TTg
ve^` vie^.c la^.p la.i ky? cu+o+ng trong ca'c hoa.t ddo^.ng kinh doanh
va(n hoa', ba`i tru+` ca'c te^. na.n xa~ ho^.i. Tuy nhie^n, ddo^'i vo+'i
nhu+~ng ke? thu lo+.i tu+` ca'c hoa.t ddo^.ng te^. na.n xa~ ho^.i, thi`
tru+o+'c su+. tuy que't, ho. luo^n ti`m ca'ch thay hi`nh ddo^?i da.ng.
Ba(`ng nhie^`u thu? ddoa.n bie^'n tu+o+'ng, bia o^m, ma't-xa, ma.i da^m
tuy` no+i, tuy` lu'c va^~n to^`n ta.i nhu+ mo^.t ca(n be^.nh dai da(?ng. 

Cuo^.c di ta?n chie^'n thua^.t

... Bie^'t chu'ng to^i co' y' ddi.nh ti`m hie^?u ve^` ti`nh hi`nh te^.
na.n xa~ ho^.i o+? ngoa.i tha`nh, ngu+o+`i ba.n vo^'n la` "da^n tho^?
ddi.a" o+?  Thu? Ddu+'c no'i vo+'i chu'ng to^i :"Bia o^m ba^y gio+` xu+a
ro^`i !  Muo^'n vui ve?... ve^` vo+'i vo+. thi` uo^'ng "bia dda'm gio^~"
mo+'i cha('c a(n". The^' la` theo su+. hu+o+'ng da^~n, chu'ng to^i ddi
cu`ng vo+'i anh qua nhu+~ng con he?m ngoa(`n nghe`o o+? xa~ Ta(ng Nho+n
Phu' dde^? cho bie^'t bia dda'm gio^~. No+i chu'ng to^i dde^'n la` mo^.t
ca(n nha` tre^.t bi`nh thu+o+`ng trong xo'm lao ddo^.ng.  Co~ le~ dda~
quen bie^'t tu+` tru+o+'c ne^n vu+`a da^~n chu'ng to^i va`o nha` la` anh
chie^'m li~nh ngay ca(n pho`ng kha'ch o+? nha` tre^n. Chu? nha` la` mo^.t
phu. nu+~ ngoa`i tuo^?i ba mu+o+i. Sau khi ddem nu+o+'c, kha(n lau ma(.t,
chi. dde^'n tru+o+'c ba`n tho+`i ngay chi'nh giu+~a nha` va` ddo^'t ma^'y
ne'n hu+o+ng, tre^n ba`n tho+`i co' sa(~n va`i ba ddi~a tra'i ca^y. Khi
kho'i hu+o+ng vu+`a nghi ngu't thi` cu~ng vu+`a lu'c ba co^ ga'i bu+o+'c
va`o ngo^`i xen ke~ vo+'i chu'ng to^i. Mo^.t co^ ho?i :"Ca'c anh a(n gi`
chu+'?"  To^i no'i :"Tho^i uo^'ng va`i lon tho^i, mo+'i vu+`a a(n, co`n no
la('m..."  Anh ba.n hu+o+'ng da^~n no'i cha(.n ngang:"Kho^ng ddu+o+.c
dda^u! Dda~ uo^'ng bia dda'm gio^~ thi` du+'t khoa't pha?i co' "mo^`i".
Tho^i, la`m mo^.t con ga` na^'u cha'o xe' phay, nhanh nhanh nghe !".
Cuo^.c bia ke'o da`i va` cu~ng ddu? ca'c co^ng ddoa.n nhu+ bia o^m thuo+?
thi.nh ha`nh o+? no^.i tha`nh.  Co' kha'c cha(ng la` ca'i ba`n tho+` vo+'i
kho'i hu+o+ng nghi ngu't... Ngoa`i ca'c khoa?n bia bo.t, kha(n, boa,
chu'ng to^i bi. che'm dde.p ddi~a ga` xe' phay to+'i 150 nga`n ddo^`ng.
Bia dda'm gio^~, uo^'ng mo^.t la^`n so+. dde^'n che^'t ! 

Ro+`i Thu? Ddu+'c, chu'ng to^i vo`ng qua Nha` Be`, no+i no^?i tie^'ng
vo+'i ddi.a danh Ca^`u Ha`n va` da~y bia o^m ddu+o+`ng Tre^n Xua^n Soa.n.
Tro+`i vu+`a su.p to^'i, ha`ng qua'n dda~ le^n dde`n. Gio' tu+` con ke^nh
Te?  - con ke^nh dden bo^'c le^n mu`i no^`ng na(.c kha'c ha(?n mu`i
nu+o+'c hoa toa? ra tu+` n co^ ga'i ma' ddo? mo^i ho^`ng ddang ngo^`i
tru+o+'c cu+?a qua'n va^~y va^~y tay mo+`i kha'ch. Theo su+. ma'ch ba?o
tru+o+'c, chu'ng to^i kho^ng ghe' la.i dda^y ma` no+i dde^'n la` mo^.t
qua'n kho^ng te^n o+? ddu+o+`ng lie^n ti?nh 15, xa~ Phu' My~...  o+? dda^y
kha'ch cu+' tu+. nhie^n cha.y tha(?ng va`o phi'a trong, sau mo^.t ca'i
co^?ng he.p treo ma`nh. Mo^.t khu vu+o+`n ro^.ng de^~ chu+`ng ho+n hai
co^ng dda^'t, du+o+'i nhu+~ng ta'n ca^y ba.ch dda`n vi vu gio' la` nhu+~ng
ca(n nha` la' ca^'t theo kie^?u nha` ro^ng.  Tro+`i sa^?m to^'i, khi
bu+o+'c va`o mo^.t ca(n nha` du+o+'i ta`ng ca^y, co^ ga'i phu.c vu.  ddu+a
tay ba^.t co^ng ta('c dde`n, nhu+ng a'nh sa'ng cu~ng cha(?ng kha' ho+n,
bo+?i mo^~i - ca(n pho`ng ro^.ng chu+`ng 10 me't vuo^ng a^'y chi? co'
ddo^.c nha^'t mo^.t bo'ng dde`n ma`u ddo? ba(`ng tra'i ca` na` nhu+ va^~n
thu+o+`ng tha^'y tre^n ba`n tho+` o^ng ddi.a.  Trong tranh to^'i tranh
sa'ng nhu+ the^', ca'c co^ ga'i tu+` ca'c ca(n pho'ng ga^`n ddo' bu+o+'c
dde^'n tru+o+'c cu+?a, co' co^ tho+` dda^`u va`o ho?i ddo^?ng :"Co' ai
quen ai thi` tu.i em go.i giu`m, ho^?ng co' thi` tu.i em tie^'p ca'c anh
luo^n nghe". Chu'ng to^i chu+a ki.p tra? lo+`i, ca'c em cu+' nha`o dda.i
vo^ ke'o ghe^' ngo^`i ca.nh chu'ng to^i . Thu+.c ti`nh, co' nhi`n ro~
ma(.t co^ na`o tro`n me'o ra sao ma` cho.n... Qua'n bia o^m no^?i tie^'ng
"ba.o" qua? kho^ng sai vo+'i lo+`i ddo^`i dda~i ?  o+? dda^y ngoa`i
chuye^.n "ga'c tay, ga'c cha^n", trong khi nha^.u co' co^? dde^` nghi.
cho+i tro` xo^? so^', da'n tem, lo^.t tem. Va` nhu+ cho+.t hie^?u ra
chu'ng to^i la` kha'ch la., ca'c co^ ca('t nghi~a :" Thi` ca'c anh thi'ch
coi cho^~ na`o... cu+' vie^.c da'n tie^`n le^n cho^~ dda', thi` tu+'c
kha('c se~ tha^'y 100% (!)...". Mo^.t lu'c sau, khi tro+`i to^'i ha(?n,
bu+o+'c ra ngoa`i len va`o nhu+~ng ha`ng ca^y ba.ch dda`n, chu'ng to^i
ba('t ga(.p nhie^`u o^ng kha'ch nha^.u ddang o^m cu+'ng ca'c co^ tie^'p
vie^n, di~ va`o go^'c ca^y...  Ho. thi` tha^`m, cu+o+`i khu'c khi'ch. Co`n
ho. la`m gi` nu+~a, thi` chi? co' ca'i go^'c ca^y va` ho. mo+'i bie^'t !!! 
Ngo^`i ca.nh to^i, co^ ga'i te^n Trang cho bie^'t :"o+? no^.i tha`nh bi.
"bo^'"  du+~ qua' ne^n tu.i em di ta?n ra dda^y la`m ddo+~. Ngoa`i na`y
cu~ng co' mo+? chie^'n di.ch, nhu+ng do ddi.a ba`n ro^.ng, nhie^`u no+i
he?o la'nh ne^n va^~n luo^`n la.ch tra'nh ne' ddu+o+.c ca'c ddo+.t kie^?m
tra" (?). Va` co' le~ nhu+ va^.y tha^.t, nhu+ no+i chu'ng to^i dde^'n,
theo ca'c co^ o+? dda^y thi` tru+o+'c co' te^n la` Kim Tuye^'n, nay dda~
de.p ba?ng hie^.u nhu+ng thu+.c ra va^~n hoa.t ddo^.ng i` xe`o. Va`
tu+o+ng tu+. nhu+ va^.y, o+? do.c bo+` ke^nh Te?, ddu+o+`ng Tra^`n Xua^n
Soa.n co`n co' nhie^`u qua'n kho^ng te^n, nha` ha`ng ma'y la.nh tie^'p
vie^n sa(~n sa`ng phu.c vu.  "to+'i be^'n", hoa(.c ki'n dda'o ho+n thi
cho.n "ba~i dda'p"o+?  ca'c nha` tro.. Theo ti`m hie^?u cu?a chu'ng to^i,
nhu+~ng ddi.a chi? "qua^.y"  ba.o nhu+ va^.y va^~n co`n la` mo^.t danh
sa'ch da`i...! 

Bi`nh An kho^ng  bi`nh ye^n...

Dda'nh mo^.t vo`ng xa ho+n, chie^`u nga`y 1/3/1997 chu'ng to^i co' ma(.t
ta.i khu du li.ch ho^` Bi`nh An. Sau khi la`m nghi~a vu. no^.p tie^`n vo^
co^?ng, mo^~i sua^'t 4.000 ddo^`ng (kho^ng he^` co' ve'), so^' tie^`n ddo'
ddu+o+.c ca'c o^ng ga'c co^?ng ddu't tha(?ng vo^ tu'i qua^`n, ke`m theo
mo^.t ca'i nhi`n dda^`y ti'nh do` xe't. Xe chu'ng to^i cha.y nu+?a vo`ng
bo+` ho^` va` du+`ng la.i tru+o+'c pho`ng tie^'p ta^n. Co^ tie^'p ta^n
co`n kha' tre?, mang ddo^i ma('t kie^'ng tra('ng co' ve? tri' thu+'c,
nie^`m no+? mo+`i cha`o chu'ng to^i theo cung ca'ch he^'t su+'c
ma-ke't-tinh :"Da., thu+a, ma^'y anh thue^ pho`ng hay ma't-xa?". 

Sau khi tha(m ho?i ve^` gia' ca? mo^.t so^' di.ch vu. o+? dda^y, chu'ng
to^i ddu+o+.c bie^'t :  Ngoa`i 18 pho`ng ma't-xa vo+'i gia' 40.000
dd/gio+`, co`n thue^ pho`ng tu+` 50.000 dd dde^'n 65.000 dd/"mo^.t ca"
(tuy` theo pho`ng nha` tu+o+`ng hay cho`i go^~, co' vo`i nu+o+'c no'ng hay
nu+o+'c ma'y thu+o+`ng)... Chu'ng to^i quye^'t ddi.nh mua mo^.t sua^'t
ta('m ho+i va` ma't-a. 
 Ta.i pho`ng so^' 10, theo hu+o+'ng da^n cu?a co^ "chuye^n vie^n va^.t ly'
tri. lie^.u", to^i va`o pho'ng ta('m ho+i, xa? he^'t van cho ho+i no'ng
bo^'c ra, tha^.t dda'ng ddo^`ng tie^`n ba't ga.o ! Nhu+ng khi vu+`a
bu+o+'c ra kho?i pho`ng ta('m, chu+a ki.p na(m le^n "ba`n tri.  lie^.u",
to^i dda~ bi. co^ nha^n vie^n ma't-xa "ta^'n co^ng va`o cu+?a ha^.u". Va`
theo co^ cho bie^'t : Gia' mo^~i "nga^'t ngu+" la` 60.000 ddo^`ng.  To^i
ti`m mo.i ca'ch pho`ng ngu+.  dde^? kho?i "nga^'t ngu+". Ra^'t may cho
to^i, co^ nha^n vie^n te^n "Thuy'" ta.i pho`ng to^i,
 co' ngu+o+`i quen ddo`i "phu.c vu." ta.i pho`ng so^' 9, nghe dda^u ddo'
la` mo^.t nha^n va^.t "VIP". Thay va`o ddo' la` mo^.t co^ nha^n vie^n
ma't-xa te^n "Trang", co' tro.ng lu+o+.ng u+o+'c dda.t ga^'p ddo^?i the^?
tro.ng cu?a to^i, va` co' mo^.t bo^. ma(.t he^'t su+'c "phi` nhie^u", va`
the^' la` to^i co' ca'i co+' dde^? ma` thoa't na.n. 

Khi ra kho?i pho`ng ta('m ho+i, ma't-xa, ra?o mo^.t vo`ng, chu'ng to^i
nha^.n tha^'y dda so^' nhu+~ng ca(.p trai ga'i dde^'n dda^y thue^ pho`ng
la` ngu+o+`i tu+` TP HCM le^n bo+?i vi` xe ga('n ma'y toa`n mang bie^?n
so^' cu?a TP. 

Qua quan sa't, chu'ng to^i ghi nha^.n ta.i dda^y co' ra^'t nhie^`u "VIP"
dde^'n thue^ pho`ng,
 mo^.t ca'ch thu+o+`ng xuye^n. Ba(`ng chu+'ng la` khoa?ng ga^`n 21 gio+`,
mo^.t ngu+o+`i dda`n o^ng ddi chie^'c xe cub mang bie^?n so^' 60.9... HT
cho+? mo^.t co^ ga'i ma` so vo+'i o^ng ta dda'ng tuo^?i con cha'u, cha.y
tha(?ng xe va`o pho`ng tie^'p ta^n, chu+' kho^ng pha?i gu+?i xe ta.i ba~i,
ro^`i ddi tha(?ng dde^'n ba`n ghi-se^ buo^ng mo^.t ca^u go.n lo?n : 
"Pho`ng so^' 2, to+'i sa'ng", va` o^ng ta nha(.t chie^'c chi`a khoa' tre^n
ba`n ghi-se^, nhu+ nha(.t chi'nh chi`a khoa' nha` o^ng ta va^.y!!! 

Tre^n ddu+o+`ng tu+` ho^` Bi`nh An tro+? ra nga ba Ta^n Va.n, chu'ng to^i
co`n ba('t ga(.p nhie^`u ca'i va^~y tay cu?a ca'c co^ ga'i hai be^n
ddu+o+`ng, dda^`y ti'nh mo+`i go.i. Khi du+.ng la.i ho?i mo^.t co^,
ddu+o+.c bie^'t :  Ne^'u muo^'n ngu? qua dde^n thi` va`o khu Bi`nh An
thue^ pho`ng, ca'c co^ se~ ba?o dda?m an toa`n tra(m pha^`n tra(m... 

Chu'ng to^i ta(ng ga do.t le. theo hu+o+'ng suo^'i Lo^` o^`, sang lo^. 1
ve^` hu+o+'ng So'ng Tha^`n, dde^? tro+? ve^` TP theo nga? Bi`nh Trie^.u.
Dda~ ho+n 23 gio+` dde^m ma` nhu+~ng qua'n ca` phe^, qua'n bia... hai be^n
ddu+o+`ng dde`n xanh, dde`n ddo?, cho+'p cho+'p, ta('t ta('t nhu+ nhu+~ng
ho^`n ma...! 
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Topic No. 5

Date: Thu, 20 Mar 1997 23:53:47 -0800 (PST)
From: AnHai Doan <anhai@cs.washington.edu>
To: vnsa-l@csd.uwm.edu
Subject: Ba'o VN: Bo'ng dda' VN - Khoa?ng ca'ch chu+a an toa`n
Message-ID: <Pine.ULT.3.93.970320235204.23064C-100000@june.cs.washington.edu>


Tuo^?i Tre? nga`y 15/03/97:
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Gia?i vo^ ddi.ch bo'ng dda' quo^'c gia ha.ng nha^'t 1997

                          Khoa?ng ca'ch chu+a an toa`n
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Lu+o+.t dda' thu+' nhi` cu?a gia?i dda~ khe'p la.i ba(`ng ke^'t qua? cu?a
ba tra^.n cuo^'i cu`ng (nga`y 13-3) nhu+ sau: Ca?ng Sa`i Go`n - Vi~nh Long
: 2-1, An Giang - Ddo^`ng Tha'p:  2-0, CA Ha?i Pho`ng - SLNA: 1-0. Ba.o
lu+.c va` tru+`ng pha.t Nga`y 13-3-1997, tru+o+?ng BTC gia?i - o^ng
Nguye^~n Ddi`nh Khoa'i - dda~ ra quye^'t ddi.nh ky? lua^.t dda^`u tie^n
trong mu`a gia?i na`y nhu+ sau: treo gio` hai tra^.n vo+'i Va(n Thi.nh
(17) do co' ha`nh vi ke'm va(n ho'a; treo gio` bo^'n tra^.n vo+'i Mai
Tie^'n Du~ng vi` co' ha`nh vi manh ddo^.ng vo+'i tro.ng ta`i. Ngoa`i ra,
buo^.c ddo^.i CAHN pha?i tie^'n ha`nh kie^?m ddie^?m nghie^m kha('c hai
ca^`u thu? no'i tre^n. Dda^y la` quye^'t ddi.nh ky? lua^.t ki.p tho+`i,
ddu'ng ddie^`u le^. gia?i, ddu+o+.c su+. ddo^`ng ti`nh cu?a gio+'i ha^m
mo^. trong vie^.c la^.p la.i ky? cu+o+ng tre^n sa^n co?.  Tro+? la.i vo+'i
tra^.n dda^'u, o^'ng ki'nh truye^`n hi`nh tru+.c tie^'p cu?a VTV 3 dda~
cho tha^'y kha' tu+o+`ng ta^.n nhu+~ng pha bo'ng kho^ng dda'ng co' trong
tra^.n CLBQDd - CAHN. Va`o hie^.p hai, tra^.n dda^'u lie^n tu.c bi. xe'
vu.n bo+?i nhu+~ng pha tranh bo'ng dda^`y tie^?u xa?o cu?a ca? ddo^i be^n.
Ngu+o+`i xem cu~ng tha^'y ro~ thay vi` ha`nh xu+? nghie^m kha('c theo
lua^.t, tro.ng ta`i Bu`i Nhu+ Ddu+'c dda~ sa va`o nhu+~ng cuo^.c tranh
lua^.n, gia?i thi'ch lua^.t vo+'i ca^`u thu?. Giu+~a hie^.p hai, Va(n
Thi.nh (17-CAHN) bi. the? va`ng thu+' hai pha?i ro+`i sa^n va` ngang
nhie^n co+?i a'o va('t vai vo+'i tha'i ddo^. coi thu+o+`ng kha'n gia?.
Va`i phu't sau ddo', Mai Tie^'n Du~ng (5-CAHN) dda~ vo^ co+' ta^'n co^ng
To^ Va(n An (10-CLBQDd) khi kho^ng co' bo'ng, ba(`ng cu' gia^.t cu`i cho?
va`o ma(.t. To^ Va(n An nga~ xuo^'ng sa^n vo+'i gu+o+ng ma(.t dda^`y ma'u
trong su+. pha^~n no^. cu+.c ddie^?m cu?a ngu+o+`i xem tre^n sa^n la^~n
qua ma`n a?nh nho?. Chu+a he^'t, khi bi. pha.t the? ddo?, Tie^'n Du~ng
dda~ bo^.c lo^. ha`nh vi manh ddo^.ng:  toan ti'nh ha`nh hung tro.ng ta`i.
Ha`nh vi ddo' dda~ bi. cha^.n ddu+'ng nho+` su+. can thie^.p ki.p lu'c
cu?a ddo^.i tru+o+?ng La~ Xua^n Tha('ng (9-CAHN). Ddie^`u dda'ng buo^`n
la` ca? hai dde^`u ra^'t tre? (23 tuo^?i). 

                           Tro+? la.i va.ch xua^'t pha't

Sa'u tra^.n dda^'u thu+' nhi` ke^'t thu'c vo+'i chie^'n tha('ng tuye^.t
ddo^'i thuo^.c ve^` ca'c ddo^.i chu?  nha`. Vi~nh Long (mo^.t ho`a, mo^.t
ba.i) ta.m xe^'p cho't ba?ng, CATP.HCM (mo^.t ho`a, mo^.t tha('ng) vu+o+n
le^n da^~n dda^`u. Tuy nhie^n, chu+a co' khoa?ng ca'ch an toa`n ve^`
ddie^?m giu+~a 12 ddo^.i du+. gia?i.  Thua sa't nu't CSG 1-2, ddo^.i Vi~nh
Long cho tha^'y ho. kho^ng pha?i la` mo^.t ddo^.i ye^'u, de^~ cho ca'c
ddo^.i kha'c "ba('t na.t" nhu+ Hue^', Ca^`n Tho+ cu?a mu`a ro^`i. Ne^'u
nhu+ ca'c cha^n su't cu?a ho. ti?nh ta'o ho+n thi` ddo^.i chu? nha` CSG
dda~ nga^.m vi. dda('ng ngay tu+` hie^.p mo^.t. Tre?, kho?e va` y' chi'
tu+. tin, co^.ng vo+'i lo^'i cho+i thie^n ve^` the^? lu+.c, chi'nh Vi~nh
Long - du` dda' tre^n sa^n ddo^'i phu+o+ng - dda~ vo^ hie^.u ho'a lo^'i
dda' ky~ thua^.t cu?a CSG.  Vie^.c thay ddo^~i tho+`i tie^'t khie^'n cho
La^m Ddo^`ng so+'m dduo^'i su+'c, cha^'p nha^.n thua hai ba`n tra('ng
tru+o+'c ddo^.i chu? nha` An Giang. Ro+`i kho?i "ca(n cu+' ddi.a" cu?a
mi`nh, SLNA dda~ pho+i a'o 0-1 tre^n sa^n La.ch Tray tru+o+'c CA Ha?i
Pho`ng. Mo^.t tra^.n dda^'u ma` ba`n tha('ng luo^n "nha?y mu'a" tru+o+'c
khung tha`nh, song ca? ddo^i be^n dde^`u du+'t ddie^?m kho^ng tha`nh
co^ng. Ma~i dde^'n phu't 75, Ddu+'c Ho+.p (9-CAHP) mo+'i ghi ddu+o+.c ba`n
tha('ng duy nha^'t cu?a tra^.n dda^'u.  Qua hai vo`ng dda^'u, lo+.i the^'
sa^n nha` (10/12 tra^.n tha('ng) dda~ ddu+o+.c ca'c ddo^.i ta^.n du.ng
to^'i dda dde^? kie^'m ddie^?m an toa`n tru+o+'c lu'c chuye^?n sang thi
dda^'u ta.i sa^n kha'ch. Kha'c vo+'i mu`a ro^`i, vie^.c tha('ng - ba.i qua
la.i giu+~a ca'c ddo^.i dda~ ta.o ra the^' ca`i cha^n la^~n nhau. Tu+`
ddo', ti'nh cha^'t ha^'p da^~n cu?a gia?i ca`ng ddu+o+.c ta(ng cao, chu+a
co' ranh gio+'i giu+~a ddo^.i ma.nh - ddo^.i ye^'u. 

                                                                 Si~ Huye^n


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Topic No. 6

Date: Thu, 20 Mar 1997 23:55:05 -0800 (PST)
From: AnHai Doan <anhai@cs.washington.edu>
To: vnsa-l@csd.uwm.edu
Subject: Ba'o VN: Ve^` chuye^.n ra ddi cu?a HLV Weigang
Message-ID: <Pine.ULT.3.93.970320235355.23064D-100000@june.cs.washington.edu>


Tuo^?i Tre? 15/03/97:
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Ve^` chuye^.n ra ddi cu?a HLV Weigang:

                    Lie^n ddoa`n Bo'ng dda' VN tho^ng ba'o gi` ?
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Ho^mqua, 14-3, to^?ng thu+ ky' Lie^n ddoa`n Bo'ng dda' (LDdBDd) VN, o^ng
Tra^`n Ba?y, dda~ co' ba'o ca'o nhanh gu+?i Bo^. tru+o+?ng Ha` Quang Du+.,
la~nh dda.o To^~ng cu.c The^? du.c the^? thao ve^` du+ lua^.n "ra ddi"
cu?a HLV Weigang. Tho^ng ba'o nhu+ sau: Vu+`a qua tre^n mo^.t va`i to+`
ba'o co' ddu+a tin ve^` o^ng Weigang - HLV tru+o+?ng ddo^.i tuye^?n bo'ng
dda' quo^'c gia VN - dda~ ky' ho+.p ddo^`ng hua^'n luye^.n cho ddo^.i
bo'ng dda' CLB Perak (Malaixia), la`m cho co^ng lua^.n ra^'t quan ta^m va`
ho?i LDdBDd VN ve^` va^'n dde^` na`y. Vo+'i tra'ch nhie^.m cu?a mi`nh,
LDdBDd VN dda~ fax dde^'n ho?i o^ng Weigang hie^.n ddang chu+~a be^.nh
ta.i Co^.ng ho`a Lie^n bang Ddu+'c, o^ng Weigang dda~ co' thu+ tra? lo+`i.
Lie^n ddoa`n chuye^?n thu+ cu?a o^ng Weigang dde^? ba'o ca'o la~nh dda.o
To^?ng cu.c The^? du.c the^? thao bie^'t va` ddo^`ng tho+`i xin ddu+o+.c
tho^ng ba'o dde^'n ca'c co+ quan truye^`n tho^ng dda.i chu'ng. (No^.i dung
thu+ cu?a HLV Weigang co+ ba?n gio^'ng nhu+ bu+'c fax dda~ dda(ng tre^n
Tuo^?i Tre? nga`y 13-3 va` mo^.t so^' ba'o kha'c). 



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Topic No. 7

Date: Thu, 20 Mar 1997 23:57:14 -0800 (PST)
From: AnHai Doan <anhai@cs.washington.edu>
To: vnsa-l@csd.uwm.edu
Subject: Ba'o VN: Sa^n kha^'u Nho? Nha` VH Lao DDo^.ng TP HCM
Message-ID: <Pine.ULT.3.93.970320235523.23064E-100000@june.cs.washington.edu>


Tuo^?i Tre? 15/03/97:
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Ddo+`i so^'ng va(n ho'a:

                  "Nhu+~ng vie^n so?i" & mo^.t sa^n kha^'u ki.ch mo+'i
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Trong mo^.t tho+`i gian nga('n nu+~a, co^ng chu'ng ye^u ki.ch trong tha`nh
pho^' se~ co' the^m mo^.t ddi.a chi? dde^? lui to+'i: sa^n kha^'u nho? NVH
Lao ddo^.ng TP.HCM (55B Nguye^~n Thi.  Minh Khai, Q.1). Da`n die^~n vie^n
chi'nh o+? dda^y la` Hu+o+ng Giang, Chu Thie^.n, Vo~ So^ng Hu+o+ng va`
ca'c tha`nh vie^n kha'c cu?a CLB ki.ch no'i "Nhu+~ng vie^n so?i". "Nhu+~ng
vie^n so?i" ddu+o+.c tha`nh la^.p tha'ng 12-1995, la` mo^.t CLB tru+.c
thuo^.c NVH Lao ddo^.ng.  Con so^' ban dda^`u la` 12 tha`nh vie^n, co'
ngu+o+`i dda~ co' te^n tuo^?i nhu+ Le^ Tua^'n Anh, Hu+o+ng Giang, Vo~
So^ng Hu+o+ng, co' ngu+o+`i co`n la` ho.c sinh cu?a Tru+o+`ng cao dda(?ng
Sa^n kha^'u - ddie^.n a?nh nhu+ Quo^'c Nam, Ddu+'c Thi.nh, Ba?o Cha^u,
Hu+~u Thu+o+.ng... Cu~ng nhu+ chu? nhie^.m CLB - dda.o die^~n tre? Hoa`ng
Vu~, ta^'t ca? dde^`u co' chung mo^.t u+o+'c mo+ gia?n di. nhu+ng kho^ng
de^~ thu+.c hie^.n: ti`m dda^'t die^~n, ti`m no+i dde^? re`n luye^.n, trau
do^?i kinh nghie^.m va` the^? nghie^.m chi'nh mi`nh. Bu+o+'c dda^`u, vo+'i
hai vo+? die^~n nga('n Phie^n to`a u+o+'c mo+ va` Do`ng so^ng kho^ng
du+`ng la.i, CLB dda~ chie^'m ddu+o+.c ca?m ti`nh cu?a kha'n gia? va` ga^y
tie^'ng vang kho^ng nho? qua phong ca'ch die^~n ki.ch nga('n mo+'i me?,
vo+'i die^~n xua^'t cu?a Hu+o+ng Giang, Chu Thie^.n, Hu+~u Cha^u... Cho
dde^'n nay, sau nhu+~ng vo+?  mo+'i nhu+ Va'n ba`i dden, Dde`n kho^ng
ha('t bo'ng, CLB dda~ ddi.nh hi`nh ddu+o+.c phong ca'ch cu?a mi`nh vo+'i
nhu+~ng vo+? die^~n mang ti'nh tho+`i su+. va` nhu+~ng bu+'c xu'c no'ng
bo?ng cu?a the^' he^. tre?, nhu+~ng no^.i dung dde^` cao ti`nh ye^u, lo`ng
nha^n ha^.u va` ti`nh ngu+o+`i. Na(m 1996 vo+'i CLB kho^ng pha?i la` de^~
da`ng: tu+. ti`m ki.ch ba?n, tu+. ta^.p die^~n dda~ dda`nh, la.i cu~ng
tu+. lo pho^ng ma`n, dda.o cu., qui tu. die^~n vie^n, no'i chung ta^'t ca?
mo.i kha^u. Mo^o+.i dde^m die^~n, khoa?n tro+. ca^'p duy nha^'t la`
300.000 ddo^?ng cu?a NVH Lao ddo^.ng. Co' khi thie^'u cho^o+. ta^.p,
dda`nh nho+` nha` cu?a mo^.t tha`nh vie^n na`o ddo'. Nhie^`u vo+? ta^.p
ro^`i kho^ng ddu+o+.c duye^.t, hoa(.c chi? cho phe'p die^~n no^.i bo^. ma`
kho^ng the^? co^ng die^~n ro^.ng ra~i, nhu+ Va'n ba`i dden, Ngo^i nha`
thie^'u dda`n ba`. Tu+o+?ng chu+`ng pha?i ra~ dda'm. Nhu+ng ca'i CLB
"kho^ng gio^'ng ai" a^'y (theo ca'ch ho. tu+. go.i) va^~n so^'ng, hoa.t
ddo^.ng va` nga`y ca`ng lo+'n ma.nh, cu+'ng ca'p, vo+'i die^~n xua^'t co'
nghe^`, co' kinh nghie^.m cu?a mo^o+.i tha`nh vie^n. Tuy nhie^n, so vo+'i
ra^'t nhie^`u du+. ddi.nh to^'t dde.p ban dda^`u thi` CLB va^~n chu+a
hoa.t ddo^.ng dda.t mu+'c mong muo^'n. Sa('p to+'i, khi sa^n kha^'u nho?
ta.i NVH Lao ddo^.ng hoa`n tha`nh, ho. cu~ng chi? ddu+o+.c cho.n die^~n
mo^.t trong ba to^'i thu+' hai, ba, tu+ ha(`ng tua^`n, vi` co`n pha?i
nhu+o+`ng cho^~ cho ca'c hoa.t ddo^.ng thu+o+`ng xuye^n kha'c nhu+ ca
nha.c, tho+`i trang. "Chi? co' mo^.t to^'i dda^`u tua^`n, kho^ng bie^'t
co' tha`nh co^ng kho^ng... La.i pha?i tie^'p tu.c co^' ga('ng dde^? tu+.
kha(?ng ddi.nh mi`nh tho^i" - dda.o die^~n Hoa`ng Vu~ ta^m su+.. Co' mo^.t
ddie^?m die^~n o^?n ddi.nh, cu~ng nhu+ co' mo^.t ma'i nha` dde^? ca? CLB
"an cu+ la.c nghie^.p". Hie^.n nay, CLB ddang ta^.p hai vo+? mo+'i (Bu'p
be^, Kho^ng chi? la` ki.ch) dde^? chua^?n bi. li.ch die^~n ha(`ng tua^`n.
Nhu+~ng vie^n so?i lu'c dda^`u co`n tho^ ra'p, sau nhu+~ng la(n dda^.p, va
cha.m ro^?i se~ bo'ng le^n ne^'u cu+'ng ca'p, hoa(.c vo+~ tan ne^'u ye^'u
o+'t. Nhu+ng co' nhu+ va^.y mo+'i go'p pha^`n pha't hie^.n ddu+o+.c
nhu+~ng ta`i na(ng mo+'i, la`m phong phu' bo^. ma(.t sa^n kha^'u ki.ch
cu?a tha`nh pho^' cu~ng nhu+ ca? nu+o+'c. 

                                                    Ha?i Ye^'n



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Topic No. 8

Date: Fri, 21 Mar 1997 03:12:52 -0500
From: "Toan" <toan@usa.net>
To: <vnsa-l@csd.uwm.edu>
Subject: Re: Vietnam and China
Message-ID: <199703210756.CAA20908@ns.kreative.net>

Chu choa, 

La^u nay tui che^ ba'c A'iVie^.t A(ng-le^ dda^`y mi`nh ma`  nay thi`
A(ng-le^ tui cu~ng chi.u ddo.c luo^n. 
Ddo^`ng y' vo+'i ba'c nga`y hai la^`n kho^ng bie^'t co' ddu+o+.c cho to^
pho+? na`o ho^ng dda^y?

Tui tha^'y ta ne^n nhi`n ca'ch pha?n u+'ng cu?a ca'c the^' lu+.c (ba^'t
cu+' la` ai) theo qua' tri`nh die^~n tie^'n va` nhu+~ng gi` tu+`ng xa?y ra.


Vie^.c qua^n va` lu+.c (lu+.c no'i chung=vo~ va` cha'nh tri.) kho^ng
thu+o+`ng du+ng du+ng ma` bu`ng no^? vo^ ca(n cu+', vo^ ti'ch su+. dda(`ng
sau lu+ng. 

Bo^. ca'c ba'c nghi~ vu. vi.nh ba('c bo^. Maddox la` tai na.n hay sao?
Ta^'t nhie^n la` kho^ng. Bo^. ma^'y cha`ng Ta`u lo^i ma~ ta^'u vu+o+.t nu'i
qua Vie^.t Nam mua' Kung Fu cho+i cho vui ho^`i 78-79 sao? Bo^. Vie^.t Nam
buo^`n buo^`n dda'nh tra^.n Kampuchia 2 nga`y ro^`i ngo^`i i` ddo' cho+i 10
na(m mo+'i chi.u ve^` la` chuye^.n ngo^`i la^u quen cho^~ sao? 

Ta^'t ca? co' mo^.t bo^'i ca?nh dda(`ng sau. Kho^ng the^? bie^'t ro~
ddu+o+.c 100% vi` va^.n cuo^.c co`n co' la('m e'o le, nhu+ng nhi`n thi`
pha?i nhi`n qua' tri`nh nhu+ ba'c A'iVie^.t vu+`a tri`nh ba`y thi` i't ra
mo+'i cho ta tha^'y bo^'i ca?nh phi'a sau kia.

Tui kho^ng vo^.i tre^` mo^i che^ ma^'y chu' Chie^.t, nhu+ng ma` ma^'y chu'
la^u nay dda'nh dda^u thi` tu+. ba^`m mi`nh no+i ddo', cha? ra gi`. Dda'nh
dda^'m kho^ng pha?i nghe^` cu?a ma^'y chu' a^'y.  Nhu+ng ma^'y chu' a^'y
thi'ch ra ma(.t ma~i vo~ la('m. 

Tui kho^ng a(n pho+? ho^m nay vi` .... ddang a(n chay. (ca'c ba'c a., a(n
thi.t thi` a(n, nhu+ng ra'n ma` bo+'t la.i va` ddo^.n rau va`o cho nhie^`u)

Toa`n 

----------
> From: Aiviet Nguyen <aiviet@cat.syr.edu>
> To: Multiple recipients of list <vnsa-l@csd.uwm.edu>
> Subject: Re: Vietnam and China
> Date: Thursday, 20 March 1997 10:28 PM
> 
> Hi Ca'c Anh,
>    Suddenly it came to my mind that China had been involved in a lot of 
> quarrels with her 
> neighbors in this century, but never won totally. I hope that we will not

> be an exception.
> Look:
>    - War with USSR: China was totally defeated, so that after then the 
> russian can meats were called Chinese soldiers in East Europe.
>    - War with India: China victoried but only locally.
>    - Korean War: China baked more than haft million soldiers with a 
> limited success. She had to be satisfied with the existence of South
Korea.
>    - War with Japan: A clear defeat. Without the global victory of 
> aliens, especially the direct participation of Russian Red Army, China
> could have been a tragedy.
>   - Burma War: Not very impressive for China.
>   - War with Vietnam in 1979: Ridiculous soldier baking.
> If the induction is true then we can conclude about the China power. She 
> might be only a "paper tiger".
>   
>   Nga`y xu+a Trung Quo^'c the^` cho^'ng My~ cho dde^'n ngu+o+`i Vie^.t 
> nam cuo^'i cu`ng, ga^`n dda^y ho+n TQ the^` cho^'ng Vie^.t nam dde^'n 
> ngu+o+`i Ca(mpuchia cuo^'i cu`ng.
>   Vi` va^.y sau ma^'y nga`y, to^'i nay to^i la`m hai to^ pho+? xe lu+?a.
> 
> Cheers
> Aiviet
> 
> 

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Topic No. 9

Date: Fri, 21 Mar 1997 00:02:08 -0800 (PST)
From: AnHai Doan <anhai@cs.washington.edu>
To: vnsa-l@csd.uwm.edu
Subject: Misc: Va`i quy ddinh cu?a bo^. GD va` DT (fwd)
Message-ID: <Pine.ULT.3.93.970320235952.23064F-100000@june.cs.washington.edu>


>From VKS:
---------- Forwarded message ----------
Date: Fri, 21 Mar 1997 14:11:26 +0900 (JST)
From: Pham Xuan Da

>        Tie^.n the^? xin ho?i ca'ch xe^'p thu+' tu+. ABC cu?a ta la` theo "ho."
>hay theo "te^n". Ho^`i ho.c pho^? tho^ng, to^i nho+' la` theo te^n, nghi~a
>la` An, Bi`nh,  Cu+o+`ng...ma` ba^'t cha^'p ho. la` gi`.

        Ne^'u thu+`a nha^.n BO GIAO DUC VA DAO DAO la` thay mat CHINH PHU
phu. tra'ch ve^` dda`o ta.o thi` QUY DINH ve^` vie^.c vie^'t te^n trong
lua^.n va(n ke^? ca? o+? pha^`n references nhu+ sau:
        - Vie^'t dda^`y ddu? ho. te^n dde^.m-te^n theo tri`nh tu+. cu?a
Vie^.t nam. Ga^`n dda^y co' va`i co+ so+? dda`o ta.o sau dda.i ho.c trong
ddo' co' 
Tru+o+`ng  Y Ha` no^.i co' mo^.t so^' Gia'o su+ co' dde^` nghi. " Dde^?
ho^.i nha^.p vo+'i The^' gio+'i " dde^` nghi. Vie^'t te^n tru+o+'c ro^`i
dde^'n Ho. va Te^n dde^m.
        eg: NGUYEN NGOC BINH se~ la` BINH NGUYEN NGOC
            KIEU HONG HOP   se~ la`  HOP KIEU HONG  ....
        Nhu+ng kho^ng ddu+o+.c Bo^. GD va DT cha^'p thua^.n.
        - Xe^'p thu+' tu+. ABC theo te^n ddo^'i vo+'i T/g Ngu+o+`i Vie^.t,
theo Ho. ddo^'i vo+'i T/g ngu+o+`i nu+o+'c ngoa`i.

        Tie^.n dda^y  em xin  no'i qua mo^.t chu't ve^` ca'c quy ddi.nh
HINH THUC MOT LUAN AN  o+? nha` ta.

        + Do^. da`y: 
                * Lua^.n a'n TS: 90-150 trang ( ddo^'i vo+'i ca'c nga`nh
KHTN, Y Duoc....)
                 ddo^'i vo+'i ca'c nga`nh KHXH( nhu+ VA(N, SU+?...) lua^.n
a'n co' the^? da`y 200 trang.
        + Chu+~ vie^'t ( dda'nh ma'y chu+~ or In ba(`ng ma'y ti'nh tre^n
kho^? gia^'y A4.       Khoa?ng 13-15 chu+~/do`ng
                 26-28 do`ng/trang 
        + Ca'ch tri`nh ba`y, ngoa`i pha^`n trang bi`a 1, bi`a 2 , lo+`i
ca?m o+n cu?a ta'c gia?( Acknowledgments) , thi` dde^'n: 
        _ Trang i;     lo+`i cam ddoan cu?a ta'c gia?, o+? dda^y ta'c gia?
pha?i ghi lo+`i  cam ddoan tu'm la.i la` " co^ng tri`nh na`y do chi'nh to^i
la`m, kho^ng sao che'p, ca'c so^' lie^.u la` trung thu+.c ... "
        -Trang ii, ca'c chu+~ vie^'t ta('t su+? du.ng trong lua^.n a'n
        -Trang iii, la` pha^`n Contents
        
        Sau ca'c thu? tu.c ddo' thi` va`o pha^`n lua^.n a'n chi'nh thu+'c
go^`m 4 chu+o+ng:
                         DAT VAN DE
        - Chuong ( Chapter) 1: Tong quan tai lieu
        - Chuong 2: DOI TUONG VA PHUONG PHAP NC
        - Chuong 3: KET QUA
        - Chuong 4: BAN LUAN 
                        KET LUAN
                        KIEN NGHI

So^' trang mo^~i chu+o+ng cu~ng ddu+o+.c quy ddi.nh tu+o+ng ddo^'i cu.
the^?, va` cuo^'i mo^~i chu+o+ng pha?i co' mo^.t trang to'm ta('t no^.i
dung cu?a 
chu+o+ng ddo'. 

        Lua^.n va(n Tha.c sy~ cu~ng tu+o+ng tu+. nhu+ va^.y chi? co' so^'
trang la` tu+` 60 - 90 trang.

        La.i tie^.n the^? no'i the^m mo^.t chu't ve^` HOI DONG.

        Ca'c Ba'c sau khi "vinh quy ba'i to^?" co' ba(`ng PhD ca^`m ve^`,
thi` sau 03 na(m se~ ddu+o+.c quye^`n tham gia Hu+o+'ng da^~n NCS, cu~ng
nhu+ ddu+o+.c QUYEN ngo^`i Ho^.i ddo^`ng cha^'m LUAN AN TIEN SY.

        Dde^? ba?o ve^. ddu+o+.c lua^.n a'n Tie^'n sy~ sau khi ca'c NCS
vie^'t xong lua.n a'n thi` ca^`n qua ca'c bu+o+'c sau:
        = Ba?o ve^. ta.i Bo^. mo^n ( chuye^n nga`nh)
        =Ba?o ve^. o+? Ca^'p co+ so+? ( ho^.i ddo^`ng do co_ so+? dda`o
ta.o tha`nh la^.p go^`m tu+` 7-9 tha`nh vie^n ( nga`y xu+a la` 9-11), trong
ddo' pha?i co' 2/3 so^' tha`nh vie^n cu`ng CN vo+'i dde^` ta`n cua? NCS.
        = Ca^'p nha` nu+o+'c, sau khi ddu+o+.c duye^.t o+? ca^'p co+ so+?
thi` lua^.n va(n ddo' se~ ddu+o+.c chuye^?n to+'i Bo^. GD va DT dde^? Bo^.
" DUYET" va` tha`nh la^.p ho^.i ddo^`ng Go^`m 7 tha`nh vie^n( T/c nhu+
tre^n)
        sau khi gu+?i ho^` so+ le^ Bo^. thi` to^'i thie^?u 04 tua^`n sau
mo+'i co' QD tha`nh la^.p HD, sau khi co' ca'c ban nhan xet cua cac Pha?n
bie^.n( 03) va` ca'c uy vie^n kha'c, chu? ti.ch HD se~ ca(n cu+' va`o ca'c
y' kie^'n nha^.n xe't trong ddo' ma` QD cho ba?o ve^. chi'nh thu+'c ngay
hay pha?i qua mo^.t ky` HOP TRU BI....
        Ne^'u ddu+o+.c ba?o ve^. chi'nh thu+'c ro^`i thi` pha?i dda(ng tin
ba?o ve^. le^n ba'o ( pha't ha`nh toa`n quo^'c) tru+o+'c nga`y ba?o ve^.
i't nha^' 2 tua^`n)....
--------------------------        


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Topic No. 10

Date: Fri, 21 Mar 1997 00:04:27 -0800 (PST)
From: AnHai Doan <anhai@cs.washington.edu>
To: vnsa-l@csd.uwm.edu
Subject: Chuye^.n cu+o+`i (fwd)
Message-ID: <Pine.ULT.3.93.970321000307.23064G-100000@june.cs.washington.edu>


>From VKS:

* Trong qua'n da+.c sa?n 
  Tai mot quan dac san kha noi tieng, nguoi ta nghe thay nhu the nay:
- Ba lo+.n mo+'i va`o, hai cho' a+n the^m.

* Tai quan dac san
  Khi thay mot chiec xe bo'ng lo^.n do^~ xich truoc cua, buoc ra la nhung
ong to beo, mat mui phuong phi thi ngay lap tuc nguoi chu quan goi voi vao
trong:
- De^, de^, de^!
Dot nhien ong ta nghe thay mot giong le` nhe` sau lu+ng:
- De^ dau ma de^, lo+.n da^'y chu+' do^` con bo`.  

* Thay mot bong den can bao nhieu nguoi

  Tu thuc tien, cac nha phan tich the gioi da dua ra ket luan ve so nguoi
can thiet de thay mot bong den chay o mot so nuoc nhu sau:
- O My ...
- O Nhat can toi 100 nguoi, mot nguoi thay bong den va 99 nguoi con lai ngoi
ti'nh ca'ch ba'n chiec bong den cha'y sang My.
- O Trung Quoc can toi 9 nguoi, mot nguoi thay bong den va 8 nguoi con lai
ngoi sua chiec bong den hong.
- O Phap can hai nguoi, mot nguoi thay bong va mot nguoi la`m tho+ ve chiec
bong den da chay.
- o Anh, doi voi cac nha Hau tuoc thi khong can nguoi nao ca vi ban than ho
da la nhung ngon den roi.
- O Viet Nam cung can toi 100 nguoi, mot nguoi thay bong den con 99 nguoi
con lai du+'ng vo^~ tay khen nguoi thay bong den gio?i.  
( Trich bao duoc xuat ban tai Viet Nam, rat tiec toi khong nho ten bao).











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Topic No. 11

Date: Fri, 21 Mar 1997 03:38:06 -0500
From: "Toan" <toan@usa.net>
To: <vnsa-l@csd.uwm.edu>
Cc: <hung@vsb.cz>
Subject: FOUND!!!: chu+~ Vie^.t NT
Message-ID: <199703210821.DAA21049@ns.kreative.net>

Cha`o ca'c ba'c:

Ha` Ra^`m ha` ra.p, tui mo` qua cho+. ca' thi` ti`m tha^'y va`ng. dda'nh
chu+~ tie^'ng Vie^.t trong NT ddu+o+.c vo+'i beta cu?a VPSkeys ddo+.t 4.
Ne^'u du`ng hie^?n thi. Web thi` theo ddu+o+`ng na`y:

ftp://ftp.best.com/pub/hcgvn/software/beta/

Thu+? xong cho tui bie^'t lie^`n dde^? tui ca^.p nha^.t va`o trang tho^ng
tin hu+o+'ng da^~n. Vo+'i ddu+`ng co' que^n go'p y' vo+'i ma^'y ngu+o+`i
kia dde^? ho. la`m cho hoa`n ta^'t ho+n.

Tui kho^ng co' NT o+? nha` ne^n kho^ng thu+? ddu+o+.c, nhu+ng theo tui
ddoa'n/hie^?u ca'i ca'ch kia la` dde^? khi na.p ca'i VPSkey ddo+.t 3 cho 95
va`o NT chi?  la` dde^? no' na.p/bo^' tri' font va`o registry na`y no.
gio^'ng nhu+ trong Win95. Ro^`i thi` du`ng ca'i EXE mo+'i va` DLL mo+'i
dde^? cha.y. 

Chu'c tha`nh co^ng,

Toa`n
toan@usa.net

________________________________________Xem be^n du+o+'i

Sau dda^y la` email tu+` anh Nha^n trong nho'm ddie^.n toa'n VPS. Co'
mo^.t so^' anh chi. dda~ cho bie^'t la` it works!

Cheers,
LIF :*)


--------------------------- begin message ----------------------------

Ca'c anh chi.,

Ne^'u anh chi. na`o co' Windows NT 4.0, xin vui lo`ng beta test du`m
VPSKeys 4.0 va` cho bie^'t ke^'t qua?.

Instructions:

- Downdload vpskeys40.zip tu+` ftp.best.com://pub/hcgvn/software/beta/
- Install VPSWin 3.0 for Win95 va`o ma'y WinNT 4.0 nhu+ thu+o+`ng le^.
- Sau ddo' unzip vpskeys40.zip dde^? co' vpskey32.exe va` vpskh32.dll

Khi dda'nh tie^'ng Vie^.t, cha.y vpskeys32.exe chu+' ddu+`ng cha.y
vpskey.exe

Nha^n


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Topic No. 12

Date: Fri, 21 Mar 1997 09:25:35 +0100 (MET)
From: Sonnet Nguyen <Sonnet.Nguyen@fuw.edu.pl>
To: VNSA-l <vnsa-l@csd.uwm.edu>
Subject: Thanks (Re: One question to ..)
Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.95.970321090900.19776A-100000@albert5>

Hi Dang Thanh, Tuan Pham and  Aiviet,
Thank you for a quick useful answer.
SN




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Topic No. 13

Date: Fri, 21 Mar 1997 00:26:36 -0800 (PST)
From: AnHai Doan <anhai@cs.washington.edu>
To: vnsa-l@csd.uwm.edu
Subject: Nho+' ve^` HP: "Tha`nh pho^' hoa phu+o+.ng ddo?"
Message-ID: <Pine.ULT.3.93.970321001413.23064H-100000@june.cs.washington.edu>


Cha`o ca'c ba'c, cha`o ba'c Ho^` Tu' Ba?o,

Xin ma.n phe'p ba'c Ba?o dda(ng la.i ba`i vie^'t "cu~ ri'ch cu~ ro+"  cu?a
bac' tre^n VKS ve^` ba`i "Tha`nh pho^' hoa phu+o+.ng ddo?", que^ no^.i
to^i va` tha`nh pho^' dda(.t te^n cho to^i. "Chu+a dde^'n chu+a tha(m ma`
dda~ nho+'...", chu+a mo^.t la^`n dda(.t cha^n le^n que^ no^.i, nhu+ng
va^~n co' ca?m gia'c tha^.t ga^`n gu~i va` da die^'t, mong dde^'n nga`y
ga(.p ma(.t.

Ca'ch dda^y va`i tha'ng, tha^.t vui mu+`ng khi nha^.n ddu+o+.c tin 
que^ no^.i to^i nay la` tha`nh pho^' ke^'t nghi~a vo+'i Seattle,
no+i to^i ddang so^'ng.

O+? dda^y co' ba'c na`o que^ o+? Ha?i Pho`ng cha(ng?     Ha?i.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Ho^m qua tre^n ta`u ve^` nha`, to^i nho+' va` ghi la.i lo+`i ba`i ha't
"Ngu+o+`i Ha` no^.i" (co' chi?nh la.i sau khi to^'i ve^` nghe la.i
ba(ng). To^i cu~ng thu+? nho+' la.i (lo~m bo~m) lo+`i ba`i ha't
"Tha`nh pho^' hoa phu+o+.ng ddo?" ve^` Ha?i pho`ng, nha^n ddo.c ma^'y
messages tua^`n tru+o+'c (ra^'t thi'ch vi` bie^'t the^m ve^`
HP). DDa^y la` mo^.t ba`i ha't ra^'t hay. To^i nho+' la` tho+ cu?a
Ha?i Nhu+, nhu+ng kho^ng nho+' he^'t lo+`i, cu~ng kho^ng nho+' nha.c
ai la`m.

Che'p la.i dda^y ca'c ba.n ddo.c cho+i, cu`ng nho+' chu't ve^` ca'c
tha`nh pho^' cu?a chu'ng ta, va` ne^'u ai nho+' thi` su+?a
du`m. Thanks.

(To^i ddang thu+? nho+' la.i ca'c ba`i ha't to^i bie^'t va` thi'ch
ve^` ca'c tha`nh pho^', ti?nh o+? VN. Tha^'y nhie^`u la('m va` ha^`u
nhu+ di.a phu+o+ng na`o cu~ng co' nhu+~ng ba`i ra^'t hay.)

Tha^n me^'n, Ba?o
-----------------

Tha`nh pho^' hoa phu+o+.ng ddo?

Tha'ng Na(m ro+.p tro+`i hoa phu+o+.g ddo?
O^i Ha?i pho`ng tha`nh pho^' que^ hu+o+ng
Ta ye^u tha`nh pho^' que^ ta
Nhu+ ye^u nhu+~ng ngu+o+`i tha^n ye^u nha^'t
Nhu+~ng he.n ho` be^n bo+` so^ng La^'p
Nhu+~ng con ddu+o+`ng ta^'p na^.p a'o tho+. nga`y dde^m
Nhu+~ng Be^'n Bi'nh, ??? ???, ca^`u Ra`o, ca^`u Va^'p, La.c vie^n
Nhu+~ng ca'i te^n nghe cha(?ng tho+ dda^u
Nhu+ng vo+'i ta vo^ cu`ng tha^n thuo^.c
O^i tha thie^'t tu+. ha`o que^ hu+o+ng

Ho+~i em ye^u trong dde^m da`i tie^~n bie^.t
Xin he.n nhe' Sa`i Go`n, DDa` na(~ng (???)
Ta ta.m bie^.t xa nhau (???)
Cha`o pho^' Ca?ng tha^n ye^u

Ha?i pho`ng ddo' que^ ta anh du~ng phi thu+o+`ng (???)
Trong dda.n lu+?a bom ro+i kie^n cu+o+`ng
Ha?i pho`ng o+i!
Ho^m nay va^'t va? nhu+ng ta va^~n tha^'y ro^.ng da`i ra.ng ro+~
Sa'nh vai cu`ng Sa`i Go`n, DDa` na(~ng ddi le^n.

O^i tha`nh pho^' tha'ng Na(m
Hoa phu+o+.ng ddo? que^ hu+o+ng
Ta mang Ngu+o+`i trong suo^'t tra'i tim ta.

(Tho+ Ha?i Nhu+, nha.c ???)



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Topic No. 14

Date: Fri, 21 Mar 1997 16:49:20 -0800
From: Nguyen Toan Quoc <t.nguyen@elvis.murdoch.edu.au>
To: vnsa-l@csd.uwm.edu
Subject: [POEM] The saddest poem of  Xa^n Die^.u
Message-ID: <33332C90.291@student.murdoch.edu.au>

Hi eveybody
When I was a high school kid, ny teacher gave us a very sad poem of Xua^n 
Die^.u which was written in around 1973? I can't help put it here. But 
guys, please don't quote it for your girlfrien...  :-)

	Mai sau du` co' bao gio+`
	Em ngo^`i -do.c la.i chu`m tho+ -da('ng na`y
	Co' ai tre^n tra'i -da^'t na`y
	Ye^u em sa^u tha(?m nhu+ nga`y anh ye^u

	Tho^i -du+`ng gia^.n tra'ch chi nhau
	No^~i nie^`m anh tra? ba(`ng -dau -do+'n ro^`i
	Tan -di na't la.i bao ho^`i
	Ye^u em ai kho^? tre^n -do+`i ba(`ng anh.
			Xua^n Die^.u

Cheers...
	Toan Nguyen

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Topic No. 15

Date: Fri, 21 Mar 1997 09:51:01 CET
From: "Doan Hong Nghia" <nghia@telemedia.hu>
To: vnsa-l@csd.uwm.edu
Subject: HELP !!!
Message-ID: <299BEE83F5E@telemedia.hu>

Co' anh em na`o giu'p mi`nh chu't xi'u kho^ng ?

MATH PROBLEM:

a,b,c,d,e,f cho tru+o+'c va` la` ca'c so^' phu+'c.

Ti`m x, y, z la` ca'c so^' phu+'c sao cho:

       [ a b c ]
A = [ x d e ] la` ma tra^.n 3x3 thoa? ma~n ddie^`u kie^.n sau:
       [ y z f  ]

A*.A = A.A*, o+? ddo' A* = adjugate(transpose(A)).

Doan Hong Nghia

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