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VNSA-L digest 293
VNSA-L Digest 293
Topics covered in this issue include:
1) HELP !!!
by "Doan Hong Nghia" <nghia@telemedia.hu>
2) Re: China and VN & VN contra China
by Sonnet Nguyen <Sonnet.Nguyen@fuw.edu.pl>
3) Re: China & Vietnam
by Buulong Nguyen <buulong@dutmpw1.tudelft.nl>
4)
by Dang Ho <dangho@utkux.utcc.utk.edu>
5) Re: China & Vietnam
by Tran Minh Tien <tran@idefix.mpipks-dresden.mpg.de>
6) Ca^u ddo^'i
by Minh Vu Huynh <huynm000@goofy.zdv.Uni-Mainz.de>
7) HELP; su+' qua'n VN ta.i Y'
by Phung Phuong Nam <ppn@iist.unu.edu>
8) No comment (Re: Chine & VN)
by Sonnet Nguyen <sonnet@theta1.ifpan.edu.pl>
9) Re: Motive and Result of Action
by huy.duong@ctsu.ox.ac.uk
10) VN contra China
by Peter_Donahoe@notes.rbs.org
11) Re: Medical Imaging - image co-registration
by Vu Nam <musen212@geisya.or.jp>
12) VKT dictionnary
by nguyen.d@ccmail.cgi.fr
13) Re: Nho+' ve^` HP: "Tha`nh pho^' hoa phu+o+.ng ddo?"
by h9451817@falbala.wu-wien.ac.at (vu xuan quang)
14) Xa^y Du+.ng ?
by "Toan" <toan@usa.net>
15) Take something back to Vietnam
by huy.duong@ctsu.ox.ac.uk
16) China & the Godfather
by ianb@sun670.telecom.tandem.com (Ian Bui)
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Topic No. 1
Date: Fri, 21 Mar 1997 09:51:01 CET
From: "Doan Hong Nghia" <nghia@telemedia.hu>
To: vnsa-l@csd.uwm.edu
Subject: HELP !!!
Message-ID: <299BEE83F5E@telemedia.hu>
Co' anh em na`o giu'p mi`nh chu't xi'u kho^ng ?
MATH PROBLEM:
a,b,c,d,e,f cho tru+o+'c va` la` ca'c so^' phu+'c.
Ti`m x, y, z la` ca'c so^' phu+'c sao cho:
[ a b c ]
A = [ x d e ] la` ma tra^.n 3x3 thoa? ma~n ddie^`u kie^.n sau:
[ y z f ]
A*.A = A.A*, o+? ddo' A* = adjugate(transpose(A)).
Doan Hong Nghia
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Topic No. 2
Date: Fri, 21 Mar 1997 10:06:03 +0100 (MET)
From: Sonnet Nguyen <Sonnet.Nguyen@fuw.edu.pl>
To: VNSA-l <vnsa-l@csd.uwm.edu>
Subject: Re: China and VN & VN contra China
Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.95.970321092611.19776B-100000@albert5>
Hi friends,
I'm under impressive reading military analysis of Huy Duong. Many aspects
and problems were considered. I have only one attention to adding to his
and other counterparts analysis. All of us need a peace but not for every
price. About war, we can decompose it to three (for instance) kinds:
total war, bounded war and pocket war.
What is important in a total war and bounded war, we know.
Let me talk few words about pocket war.
Probably if China need a war they'll expect a "pocket war". It's less
expensive for them. Air force play very important rule in our time, but
can VN uses Airforce agaist China when they offense Island "Truong Sa"?
I have to remind you that VN didn't use air force both in the war 1979
with China and (of South VN defence) in a historical pocket war in "Hoang
Sa" 1974. It was a good lession for Chinese force and they have a right
to expect the same thing in a "pocket war" in "Truong sa" in 199(?).
Morely, I'm sure that if Chinese Ships bound VN-se island, then VN-se
goverment will do nothing. (I mean a military action.)
I'm really feeling bad thinking about that.
Could someone make me feel better?
enjoys,
SN
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Topic No. 3
Date: Fri, 21 Mar 1997 10:13:50 +0100 (MET)
From: Buulong Nguyen <buulong@dutmpw1.tudelft.nl>
To: vnsa-l@csd.uwm.edu
Subject: Re: China & Vietnam
Message-ID: <Pine.HPP.3.91.970321092629.25195B-100000@dutmpw3.tudelft.nl>
On Fri, 21 Mar 1997, Vu Thanh Ca wrote:
> To'm la.i la` TU+. TA PHA?I CU+'U LA^'Y TA. Ta pha?i ma.nh le^n thi` mo+'i
> dda'nh ddu+o+.c Ta`u. Ngu+o+`i Vie^.t ta hay dda'nh nhau va` co`n nhie^`u
> thu` ha^.n qua'. No'i gi` thi` no'i, ca^`n pha?i que^n thu` rie^ng, ho+.p
> ta'c vo+'i
> nhau, xa^y nu+o+'c ta gia`u ma.nh ca`ng so+'m ca`ng to^'t. No'i thi` de^~, la`m
> thi` kho'. Ma` chu+a bie^'t chu+`ng la.i co' ba'c na`o kie^.n to^i vi` ke^u go.i
> ddoa`n ke^'t a^'y chu+'.
Cha`o ba'c Ca va` chu+ vi. bo^ la~o,
To^i dda~ ddi.nh tho^i kho^ng vie^'t ve^` vu. na`y nu+~a. Pha^`n vi` ca`ng
vie^'t ca`ng tha^'y ddau lo`ng vi` hie^?u la` ti`nh hi`nh be^' ta('c qua',
pha^`n kha'c so+. ca? la`ng bi. nha`m tai. The^' nhu+ng cu+' a^'m u+'c
trong lo`ng, dda`nh vie^'t the^m la^`n nu+?a va^.y.
Ba'c Ca a`, toi xin ddo^`ng y' hai tay vo+'i ba'c la` da^n ta pha?i
ddoa`n ke^'t mo+'i ma.nh ddu+o+.c.
Mong ra(`ng da^n Vie^.t ta - trong nu+o+'c cu~ng nhu+ ngoa`i nu+o+'c - tu+`
tha'i ddo^. ngang ngu+o+.c cu?a Ta`u, tu+` no^?i ddau ba^'t lu+.c, tu+`
mo^'i lo cho chu? quye^`n dda^'t nu+o+'c, se~ thay ddo^?i ca'ch nhi`n
va` cu`ng nhau ti`m ca'ch ho+.p ta'c xa^y du+.ng dda^'t nu+o+'c gia`u
ho+n va` nha^'t la` MA.NH ho+n.
Su+. thay ddo^?i a^'y pha?i la` mo^.t qua' tri`nh song phu+o+ng. Muo^'n
dda.t ddu+o+.c consensus mo^~i be^n pha?i nhu+o+.ng bo^. tre^n mo^.t so^'
khi'a ca.nh. No'i thi' du. ne^'u nhu+ ta no'i ngu+o+`i Vie^t o+? ha?i ngoa.i
ne^n ti`m ca'ch que^n ddi ha(`n thu` va` co+?i mo+? ho+.p ta'c vo+'i
chi'nh phu? trong nu+o+'c, thi` ta cu~ng cho+` ddo+.i mo^.t tha'i ddo^.
thie^.n chi' tu+o+ng tu+. tu+` phi'a chi'nh phu?. Xin ddu+o+.c tu+. gio+'i
ha.n o+? superficial level va^.y tho^i, dde^? kho^ng pha.m va`o
nguye^n ta('c cu?a VNSA.
Ba'c Huy (Duong) co' nhie^`u la^`n dde^` ca^.p dde^'n "civil society",
ve^` su+. ca^`n thie^'t pha?i co' mo^.t image cu?a mo^.t quo^'c gia da^n
chu? nhu+ la` ddie^`u kie^n ca^`n thie^'t dde^? co' mo^t ha^.u thua^?n
quo^'c te^', i't nha^'t la` tre^n phu+o+ng die^.n chi'nh tri.. Ca'c ba'c
va` to^i, va` dda.i dda so^' da^n Vie^.t ta, du` co' muo^'n ddie^`u na`y
ca'ch ma^'y cu~ng kho^ng tu+. thu+.c hie^.n ddu+o+.c va` cu~ng kho^ng
ddo`i ma` du+o+.c. Trong bo^'i ca?nh Vietnam hie^.n nay, qua' tri`nh a^'y
pha?i xa?y ra tu+` be^n tre^n, pha?i xua^'t pha't tu+` mo^.t tu+ duy
chi'nh tri. mo+'i cu?a nhu+~ng ngu+o+`i ddang ddie^`u ha`nh dda^'t nu+o+'c.
DDie^`u duy nha^'t chu'ng ta - nhu+~ng ngu+o+`i da^n thu+o+`ng - co'
the^? la`m trong hoa`n ca?nh na`y la` HY VO.NG.
Hy vo.ng ra(`ng nhu+~ng ngu+o+`i co' tha^?m quye^`n cu~ng ddau cu`ng no^?i
ddau nhu+ ta, cu~ng ca(m bo.n Ta`u ngang ngu+o+.c, cu~ng mong co' nga`y pha^'t
co+` phu.c ha^.n, va` tu+` ddo' se~ co' nhu+~ng sa'ch lu+o+.c phu` ho+.p.
Mong ra(`ng su+. ti'ch Tra^`n Hu+ng DDa.o ta('m cho Tra^`n Quang Kha?i
dde^? xo'a bo? thu` rie^ng, cu`ng nhau cho^'nh gia(.c, va^~n la`
ta^'m gu+o+ng cho nhu+~ng ngu+o+`i ddang na('m trong tay va^.n nu+o+'c.
Xin go+?i dde^'n ca'c ba'c lo+`i cha`o quye^'t ta^m cho^'ng Ta`u.
Bu+?u-Long
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Topic No. 4
Date: Fri, 21 Mar 1997 04:53:40 -0500 (EST)
From: Dang Ho <dangho@utkux.utcc.utk.edu>
To: Multiple recipients of list <vnsa-l@csd.uwm.edu>
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Topic No. 5
Date: Fri, 21 Mar 1997 11:36:49 +0100 (MET)
From: Tran Minh Tien <tran@idefix.mpipks-dresden.mpg.de>
To: vnsa-l@csd.uwm.edu
Subject: Re: China & Vietnam
Message-ID: <9703211036.AA07245@idefix.mpipks-dresden.mpg.de>
Cha`o ca'c ba'c,
To^i dda~ ddi.nh kho^ng tham gia va`o dde^` ta`i na`y vi` mi`nh kho^ng
pha?i la` chie^'n lu+o+.c gia hay chuye^n gia ve^` quan he^. Vie^.t-Trung
hay 1 ca'i gi` ddo' trong pha.m vi la^n ca^.n\.
Co' ngu+o+`i nha('c ve^` ho^.i nghi. Die^n Ho^`ng, song que^n ma^'t ho^.i
nghi. Bi`nh Than va` co' le~ ngu+o+`i ta cu~ng kho^ng ro~ ho^.i nghi.
na`o mang ti'nh quye^'t ddi.nh\. O+? ho^.i nghi. Bi`nh Than, Tra^`n Quo^'c
Toa?n chi? ddu+o+.c thu+o+?ng cho qua? cam tho^i\. DDie^`u na`y co' le~ ca^`n
pha?i bie^'t\.
To^n tu+? binh pha'p co' no'i: Chie^'n tranh la` vie^.c to^'i quan
tro.ng cu?a quo^'c gia, la` vie^.c so^'ng co`n tha`nh ba.i. Do ddo'
ca^`n pha?i tha^.n tro.ng ca^n nha('c\.
To^i no'i the^m: chie^'n tranh kho^ng pha?i la` vie^.c ba`n ba.c
cu?a tre? con, cu?a nhu+~ng ngu+o+`i kho^ng co' kha? na(ng va`
ddie^`u kie^.n dda'nh gia' ti`nh hi`nh, thu+.c lu+.c, ba?n cha^'t ...
cu?a ca'c be^n co' the^? se~ tham gia\.
Ngu+o+`i ta ddo`i ho?i qua' nhie^`u o+? DDa^'t Nu+o+'c\. Ngu+o+`i
muo^'n the^' na`y, ngu+o+`i ddo`i the^' no.\. Song co' mo^.t ca^u
ho?i kho^ng tha^'y ai nha('c: mi`nh dda~ la`m gi` ddu+o+.c cho Dda^'t
Nu+o+'c chu+a ? Nhu+~ng ngu+o+`i dda~ tu+`ng ddi ho.c hoa(.c ba(`ng
tie^`n cu?a DDa^'t Nu+o+'c hoa(.c ba(`ng tie^`n cu?a nu+o+'c ngoa`i
vie^.n tro+. cho DDa^'t Nu+o+'c, nhu+~ng vi' du. ba(`ng xu+o+ng
ba(`ng thi.t tre^n die^~n dda`n cu?a chu'ng ta, lie^.u dda~ ddo'ng
go'p ddu+o+.c gi` cho DDa^'t Nu+o+'c, chi' i't lie^.u dda~ tra? ddu+o+.c
so^' tie^`n ma` dda~ du`ng chu+a ? Tie^`n ddo' la` xu+o+ng ma'u
mo^` ho^i cu?a da^n dda^'y\.
Trong 1 gia ddi`nh, con ca'i pha?i co' tra'ch nhie^.m vo+'i cha me.\.
Chu+a tha^'y ai la.i dda(.t ddie^`u kie^.n tie^n quye^'t vo+'i
cha me., ba('t cha me. pha?i nghe mi`nh, pha?i thay ddo^?i
mo+'i chi.u bo^?n pha^.n la`m con\. Tu+` gia ddi`nh co' the^?
suy ro^.ng ra Quo^'c gia\. Tu+` u+'ng xu+? trong pha.m vi
Quo^'c gia co' the^? tha^'y hi`nh a?nh u+'ng xu+? trong gia ddi`nh\.
"Ngu+o+`i nho? la`m vie^.c nho?; Tu`y theo su+'c cu?a mi`nh".
Va` to^'t ho+n ca? ha~y la`m nhu+~ng gi` o+? tru+o+'c ma(.t
mi`nh, ho+n la` ba`n nhu+~ng thu+' vie^?n vo^ng vo^ ti'ch
su+.\.
Va`i lo+`i nha(ng cuo^.i, mong ca'c ba'c bo? qua' cho\.
Tra^`n Minh Tie^'n
------------------------------
Topic No. 6
Date: Fri, 21 Mar 1997 12:11:32 +0100
From: Minh Vu Huynh <huynm000@goofy.zdv.Uni-Mainz.de>
To: vnsa-l@csd.uwm.edu
Subject: Ca^u ddo^'i
Message-ID: <199703211111.MAA13173@marie.zdv.Uni-Mainz.DE>
Cha`o ca'c ba'c,
tu+` ho^`i ho.c pho^? tho^ng to^i bi. tha'ch ddo^'i ca^u sau:
Tha^`y sinh va^.t va^.t co^ sinh va^.t
Va^.t dde^? sinh, sinh dde^? va^.t
dde^'n gio+` to^i chu+a ti`m ddu+o+.c ca^u ddo^'i la.i cho ho+.p .
Hy vo.ng co' ba'c na`o giu'p ddu+o+.c cha(ng ?
Tha^n,
Vu~
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Topic No. 7
Date: Fri, 21 Mar 1997 19:20:50 +0800
From: Phung Phuong Nam <ppn@iist.unu.edu>
To: vnsa-l@csd.uwm.edu
Subject: HELP; su+' qua'n VN ta.i Y'
Message-ID: <33326F12.6599@iist.unu.edu>
Xin cha`o ca'c chuye^n gia,
ba.n tui ca^`n la`m thu? tu.c mo+`i me. sang y'.
<sang ho.c ta.i Trento-Y' ve^` nga`nh kinh te^'>
dde^'n su+' qua'n VN thi` co' ngu+o+`i no'i la` kho^ng bie^'t ma^'y sinh
vie^n la` ai va` tra? lo+`i kho' dde^~. Co' 1 vi. dda~ dde^'n tru+o+`ng
ho.p ba'o khi ddoa`n ho.c sinh sang thi` ti`m ga(.p kho^ng ddu+o+.c.
Go.i so^' DT o+? nha` thi` ba?o ddi chie^u dda~i co`n o+? co+ quan thi`
ma'y ba^.n va` tri'ch nguye^n va(n
"The^' la- nguo+-i bie^'t thi- kho^ng ga+.p , nguo+-i chi.u tra'ch
nhie^.m pha^-n gia^'y to+- mo+-i nguo+-i nha- thi- kho^ng bie^'t."
...Ma- ca'i ba- o+? su+' qua'n co-n ke^u "Ne^'u muo^'n la^'y
ca'c loa.i chu+'ng nha^.n thi- pha?i ca^-m ba?n go^'c le^n chu+' su+'
qua'n kho^ng nha^.n ba?n photo"
.....Thu+' 4 tua^-n sau bo.n SV Y' dda^'y de^'n
VN , kho^ng hie^?u em co' xoay ki.p gia^'y to+- dde^? chu'ng no' ca^-m
luo^n ho^. kho^ng . Gu+?i buu+ ddie^.n thi- kho^ng bie^'t bao gio+-
mo+'i nha^.n dduo+.c.
Ddau dda^-u qua' ddi tho^i."
xin ca'c vi. chuye^n gia cho y' kie^'n kha^?n ca^'p xem pha?i la`m gi`
ba^y gio+`
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Topic No. 8
Date: Fri, 21 Mar 1997 11:54:11 +0100 (MET)
From: Sonnet Nguyen <sonnet@theta1.ifpan.edu.pl>
To: Multiple recipients of list <vnsa-l@csd.uwm.edu>
Subject: No comment (Re: Chine & VN)
Message-ID: <Pine.SGI.3.95.970321111949.29887A-100000@theta1.ifpan.edu.pl>
Hi all,
On Fri, 21 Mar 1997, Tran Minh Tien wrote:
>
> To^i no'i the^m: chie^'n tranh kho^ng pha?i la` vie^.c ba`n ba.c
> cu?a tre? con, cu?a nhu+~ng ngu+o+`i kho^ng co' kha? na(ng va`
> ddie^`u kie^.n dda'nh gia' ti`nh hi`nh, thu+.c lu+.c, ba?n cha^'t ...
> cu?a ca'c be^n co' the^? se~ tham gia\.
Very good! Kids usually ask more than they could ...
Their questions usually are more inteligent than questions of experts.
>
> Ngu+o+`i ta ddo`i ho?i qua' nhie^`u o+? DDa^'t Nu+o+'c\. Ngu+o+`i
> muo^'n the^' na`y, ngu+o+`i ddo`i the^' no.\.
Correct! Universal true!!! Differences of Society are required and they
are a locomotive for development.
> Song co' mo^.t ca^u
> ho?i kho^ng tha^'y ai nha('c: mi`nh dda~ la`m gi` ddu+o+.c cho Dda^'t
> Nu+o+'c chu+a ?
J. F. Kennedey's words ? Great american president in XX-th century.
He died too young.
>Nhu+~ng ngu+o+`i dda~ tu+`ng ddi ho.c hoa(.c ba(`ng
> tie^`n cu?a DDa^'t Nu+o+'c hoa(.c ba(`ng tie^`n cu?a nu+o+'c ngoa`i
> vie^.n tro+. cho DDa^'t Nu+o+'c, nhu+~ng vi' du. ba(`ng xu+o+ng
> ba(`ng thi.t tre^n die^~n dda`n cu?a chu'ng ta, lie^.u dda~ ddo'ng
> go'p ddu+o+.c gi` cho DDa^'t Nu+o+'c, chi' i't lie^.u dda~ tra? ddu+o+.c
> so^' tie^`n ma` dda~ du`ng chu+a ? Tie^`n ddo' la` xu+o+ng ma'u
> mo^` ho^i cu?a da^n dda^'y\.
Embarasied questions?
So privatization is required. Each person pay for himself. Any more?
>
> Trong 1 gia ddi`nh, con ca'i pha?i co' tra'ch nhie^.m vo+'i cha me.\.
> Chu+a tha^'y ai la.i dda(.t ddie^`u kie^.n tie^n quye^'t vo+'i
> cha me., ba('t cha me. pha?i nghe mi`nh, pha?i thay ddo^?i
> mo+'i chi.u bo^?n pha^.n la`m con\. Tu+` gia ddi`nh co' the^?
> suy ro^.ng ra Quo^'c gia\.
Very dangerous and not correct extension.
Theory of extension is hard and plays a important rule in math.
>
> "Ngu+o+`i nho? la`m vie^.c nho?; Tu`y theo su+'c cu?a mi`nh".
These are President HCM's words? May be not, Are they translated from
chinese?
>
> Va` to^'t ho+n ca? ha~y la`m nhu+~ng gi` o+? tru+o+'c ma(.t
> mi`nh, ho+n la` ba`n nhu+~ng thu+' vie^?n vo^ng vo^ ti'ch
> su+.\.
Earn more money are better? May be, play a computer game?
>
> Va`i lo+`i nha(ng cuo^.i, mong ca'c ba'c bo? qua' cho\.
I'm funny too! A cup of coffee, please.
enjoys,
SN
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Topic No. 9
Date: Fri, 21 Mar 1997 12:18:46 GMT
From: huy.duong@ctsu.ox.ac.uk
To: vnsa-l@csd.uwm.edu, VNFORUM@saigon.com
Subject: Re: Motive and Result of Action
Message-ID: <97032112184604@a2.ctsu.ox.ac.uk>
Dear friends,
It is possible that, the in the post-Deng scramble for influence,
the hardliners and the military in China is stirring up international
trouble to increase their influence in Chinese politics and get a
bigger military budget.
If the hardliners and military succeed in this, if they can say to the
people, `See, tough military action brings good results for China', then the
world is letting one billion people have a dangerous impression. And there will
be bigger trouble to come.
The world must condemn this threat to peace and stability.
Huy
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Topic No. 10
Date: Fri, 21 Mar 1997 08:04:11 -0400
From: Peter_Donahoe@notes.rbs.org
To: vnsa-l@csd.uwm.edu
Subject: VN contra China
Message-ID: <85256461.0047BBF6.00@notes.rbs.org>
From: Peter Donahoe@RBS on 03/21/97 08:04 AM
Dear Sonnet: I think maybe you are being a little too harsh in
this part of your 3/20/97 post regarding China:
Why the WEST expect a free democratic China? Why they help
Tibet and they do not help Kurdistan or Native Idians in
South America? If you do a little analysis, then you'll
understand that the economical laws play a fundamental rule
in Modern World. (Morality, ethics, etc. are only West's
propagande. Don't believe them!)
1) Few if any in the West expect a free or democratic China,
except perhaps in our dreams. Most of the West is puzzled by,
afraid and uncertain of China. Images of students shot and
crushed by tanks, and recent missile firings and naval maneuvers
near Taiwan are all very real to the West.
2) Few in West are doing anything at all to help Tibet. They
have no actual national or security interest for doing so. They
also just don't know HOW to help Tibet. Short of military
intervention, only massive, universal, international long-term
economic sanctions offer any hope of influencing Chinese policy
toward Tibet - that is still unlikely to succeed, and leaves the
West criticized by many nations for meddling in Chinese internal
affairs.
3) I honestly don't know enough about Kurdistan to know what
you are referencing. If you mean the conflicts between the
Kurds and both the Iraqi and Turkish governments then again, it
is easy to criticize the West's INaction - but offering a moral
and practical course of action is difficult. The Kurds are a
nation with no country. That CAN be blamed on Europeans who
died long ago. But what can Europeans in 1997 do about a
multinational ethnic conflict in Asia?
4) Native Indians in South America today are treated much the
same (and often worse) than were the Indians of North America.
Again, what would have the Western nations do about it? (Now
here I CAN think of several moral and practical ways to help
them... but I want your ideas first, if you will).
5) Never dismiss the morality and ethics preached by the West.
That's harmful. That makes it easy for the West to be fat,
lazy, and hypocritical. Instead, challenge us at every turn to
LIVE UP TO and honor that morality and those ethics.
Challenging us on it sometimes stirs us to action, and change.
This worked for Gandhi, and it worked for Dr. Martin Luther
King, Jr. It's worked for more people and in more places than I
can list.
Wasn't it Gandhi who said Western morality and ethics were our
great vulnerability? Probably he was speaking of the British.
But his point was that we value those so much that confronting
us and revealing our own hypocrisy truly could be a more
powerful weapon than a gun.
Challenge the West on its hypocrisy, and kick our asses if need
be, Sonnet, but don't dismiss us. :-)
Pete
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Topic No. 11
Date: Fri, 21 Mar 1997 22:06:06 +0900
From: Vu Nam <musen212@geisya.or.jp>
To: vnsa-l@csd.uwm.edu
Subject: Re: Medical Imaging - image co-registration
Message-ID: <333287BE.5D32@geisya.or.jp>
VU KHAC TRI wrote:
>
> Dear friend in vnsa,
>
> Anyone is working or studying in this domain ? Could you contact
> me, please.
>
> I'm a Ph.D. student who is working in coregistration of PET, SPECT,
> MRI, CT... will be very happy to exchange our ideas.
>
> Best regard,
>
> *-------------------------*-----------------------------------*
> | VU KHAC Tri. | Tel: +32-81-423411 (bureau) |
> | Medical Imaging Group | Tel: +32-81-737832 (private) |
> | Institut d'informatique | Fax: +32-81-423408 |
> | Rue de Grangagnage, 21 | http://www.info.fundp.ac.be/~tvk/ |
> | 5000 - Namur, Belgium. | |
> *-------------------------*-----------------------------------*
Hi Tri
Are you a medical doctor?
Your message interested me. My knowledge about PET, SPECT, MRI, CAT scan
is not so good but we do use MRI & CT in dayly clinical works. I am
always eager to understand more about medical imaging ... You specialize
in this field, wright? How lucky I am!! I can learn from you... may I?
Best regards
Vu Nam
Emai: musen212@geisya.or.jp
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Topic No. 12
Date: Fri, 21 Mar 97 14:19:55 EST
From: nguyen.d@ccmail.cgi.fr
To: vnsa-l@csd.uwm.edu
Subject: VKT dictionnary
Message-ID: <9702218589.AA858983407@pctest.cgi.fr>
ITo VKT,
When i click on "disk1" to download the Eva dictionnay on your site i
've an error message (Forbidden bad user dictionnary)
So i've load it from another size (wich mentionned that it is your
copy)-
It's a shame because the load could be faster, because i'm in FRANCE
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Topic No. 13
Date: Fri, 21 Mar 1997 14:42:18 +0100 (MEZ)
From: h9451817@falbala.wu-wien.ac.at (vu xuan quang)
To: vnsa-l@csd.uwm.edu
Cc: h9451817@falbala.wu-wien.ac.at (vu xuan quang)
Subject: Re: Nho+' ve^` HP: "Tha`nh pho^' hoa phu+o+.ng ddo?"
Message-ID: <9703211342.AA19864@falbala.wu-wien.ac.at>
Hi, Xin chao cac bac, bac Bao, An Hai, co toi que o Hai Phong.
Toi lon len o HP hon 12 nam. Toi cung co rat nhieu ky niem va
ban be tai thanh pho Hoa phuong do. Xin duoc cap nhat them, he vua qua ve
VN, toi co ve tham HP may lan, Hoa phuong do van con nhieu va dep. Nhin
chung HP khong phat trien ram ro nhu HN va tpHCM, nhung van cho thay nhung
chuyen bien va phat trien lon.
Moi day (trong tuan nay) co le anh em chung ta deu da nghe, mot du an lien
doanh lon (toi khong co so lieu chinh xac len khong dua ra) tai HP duoc ky
ket giua VN, US, Belgium and Thailand. Bo truong Tran Xuan Gia va mot so vi
lien quan vua den Bi de hop ban. Phia US se giu vi tri Chu tich HDQT, VN
la pho. Chac chan chung ta xe thay nhieu hon nhung doi moi va phat trien
tai VN noi chung va HP noi rieng.
Toi cung rat thich bai hat "Thanh pho Hoa Phuong do" va nho cung rat lom
bom. Xin man phep bo sung theo tri nho cua toi duoi day.
PS: Let me type Vietnamese without 'huyen, sac, ...'. It looks like a
girl without clothers, but I type 'huyen, sac, ..' very slowly.
Than chao cac bac, Quang
>
> Cha`o ca'c ba'c, cha`o ba'c Ho^` Tu' Ba?o,
>
> Xin ma.n phe'p ba'c Ba?o dda(ng la.i ba`i vie^'t "cu~ ri'ch cu~ ro+" cu?a
> bac' tre^n VKS ve^` ba`i "Tha`nh pho^' hoa phu+o+.ng ddo?", que^ no^.i
> to^i va` tha`nh pho^' dda(.t te^n cho to^i. "Chu+a dde^'n chu+a tha(m ma`
> dda~ nho+'...", chu+a mo^.t la^`n dda(.t cha^n le^n que^ no^.i, nhu+ng
> va^~n co' ca?m gia'c tha^.t ga^`n gu~i va` da die^'t, mong dde^'n nga`y
> ga(.p ma(.t.
>
> Ca'ch dda^y va`i tha'ng, tha^.t vui mu+`ng khi nha^.n ddu+o+.c tin
> que^ no^.i to^i nay la` tha`nh pho^' ke^'t nghi~a vo+'i Seattle,
> no+i to^i ddang so^'ng.
>
> O+? dda^y co' ba'c na`o que^ o+? Ha?i Pho`ng cha(ng? Ha?i.
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Ho^m qua tre^n ta`u ve^` nha`, to^i nho+' va` ghi la.i lo+`i ba`i ha't
> "Ngu+o+`i Ha` no^.i" (co' chi?nh la.i sau khi to^'i ve^` nghe la.i
> ba(ng). To^i cu~ng thu+? nho+' la.i (lo~m bo~m) lo+`i ba`i ha't
> "Tha`nh pho^' hoa phu+o+.ng ddo?" ve^` Ha?i pho`ng, nha^n ddo.c ma^'y
> messages tua^`n tru+o+'c (ra^'t thi'ch vi` bie^'t the^m ve^`
> HP). DDa^y la` mo^.t ba`i ha't ra^'t hay. To^i nho+' la` tho+ cu?a
> Ha?i Nhu+, nhu+ng kho^ng nho+' he^'t lo+`i, cu~ng kho^ng nho+' nha.c
> ai la`m.
>
> Che'p la.i dda^y ca'c ba.n ddo.c cho+i, cu`ng nho+' chu't ve^` ca'c
> tha`nh pho^' cu?a chu'ng ta, va` ne^'u ai nho+' thi` su+?a
> du`m. Thanks.
>
> (To^i ddang thu+? nho+' la.i ca'c ba`i ha't to^i bie^'t va` thi'ch
> ve^` ca'c tha`nh pho^', ti?nh o+? VN. Tha^'y nhie^`u la('m va` ha^`u
> nhu+ di.a phu+o+ng na`o cu~ng co' nhu+~ng ba`i ra^'t hay.)
>
> Tha^n me^'n, Ba?o
> -----------------
>
> Tha`nh pho^' hoa phu+o+.ng ddo?
>
> Tha'ng Na(m ro+.p tro+`i hoa phu+o+.g ddo?
> O^i Ha?i pho`ng tha`nh pho^' que^ hu+o+ng
> Ta ye^u tha`nh pho^' que^ ta
> Nhu+ ye^u nhu+~ng ngu+o+`i tha^n ye^u nha^'t
> Nhu+~ng he.n ho` be^n bo+` so^ng La^'p
> Nhu+~ng con ddu+o+`ng ta^'p na^.p a'o tho+. nga`y dde^m
> Nhu+~ng Be^'n Bi'nh, ??? ???, ca^`u Ra`o, ca^`u Va^'p, La.c vie^n
Toi nho la:
Nhu+~ng Be^'n Bi'nh, Xi Ma(ng, Ca^\u Rao\, Ca^u\ DDa^'t, La.c Vie^n
> Nhu+~ng ca'i te^n nghe cha(?ng tho+ dda^u
> Nhu+ng vo+'i ta vo^ cu`ng tha^n thuo^.c
> O^i tha thie^'t tu+. ha`o que^ hu+o+ng
>
> Ho+~i em ye^u trong dde^m da`i tie^~n bie^.t
> Xin he.n nhe' Sa`i Go`n, DDa` na(~ng (???)
Q: Chua tro.n nghia~ Sai\ Gon\, DDa\ Na(~ng
> Ta ta.m bie^.t xa nhau (???)
> Cha`o pho^' Ca?ng tha^n ye^u
>
> Ha?i pho`ng ddo' que^ ta anh du~ng phi thu+o+`ng (???)
> Trong dda.n lu+?a bom ro+i kie^n cu+o+`ng
> Ha?i pho`ng o+i!
> Ho^m nay va^'t va? nhu+ng ta va^~n tha^'y ro^.ng da`i ra.ng ro+~
Q: Ho^m nay be' nho?, mai ta se~ tha^y' ro^.ng dai\, ru+.c sa'ng
> Sa'nh vai cu`ng Sa`i Go`n, DDa` na(~ng ddi le^n.
Q: Sa'nh vai cu\ng SG, DN que^ mi\nh
>
> O^i tha`nh pho^' tha'ng Na(m
> Hoa phu+o+.ng ddo? que^ hu+o+ng
> Ta mang Ngu+o+`i trong suo^'t tra'i tim ta.
>
> (Tho+ Ha?i Nhu+, nha.c ???)
>
>
>
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Topic No. 14
Date: Fri, 21 Mar 1997 10:14:25 -0500
From: "Toan" <toan@usa.net>
To: <vnsa-l@csd.uwm.edu>
Subject: Xa^y Du+.ng ?
Message-ID: <199703211457.JAA23858@ns.kreative.net>
Ma^'y ho^m nay ca'c ba'c cho+i da`n tra^.n<nu't ba`n phi'm> Ta vo+'i Ta`u
ca(ng qua'. Tui thi` ho+i la`m ca'c ba'c tha^'t vo.ng vi` cu+' ddo`i theo
chu? nghi~a xe't la.i. Ho^m nay ra tri`nh la`ng tha^.t ti`nh ngo'n nghe^`
cu?a mi`nh. Kho^ng bie^'t vie^'t la'ch o+? dda^y co' xong kho^ng; song tui
cu+' kho+?i dda^`u ca^u chuye^.n ro^`i tie^'p ne^'u ca^`n.
Vie^.c la` ho+n nu+?a so^' da^n mi`nh na(`m ngay o+? tuo^?i ...nghi~a vu.
thie^ng lie^ng... ddo' ca'c ba'c a`.
Nhu+~ng anh chi. tre? na`y so^'ng va` lo+'n le^n trong hai tha^.p nie^n qua
ta.i que^ nha`.
Xa~ ho^.i Vie^.t trong nhu+~ng na(m sanh tru+o+?ng a^'y nhu+ the^' na`o
cha('c ca'c ba'c cu~ng bie^'t ro^`i. Ho.c ddu+o+`ng va` ho.c thu+'c Vie^.t
trong nhu+~ng na(m a^'y, ti`nh tra.ng kinh te^' xa~ ho^.i, va(n hoa' va`
gia ddi`nh.v.v... kho^ng la` mo^.t tho+`i ddie^?m ta ye^n ta^m ddu+o+.c.
To^i la^'y la`m lo cho pha^.n da^n, ro^`i thi` mo+'i no'i pha^.n nu+o+'c.
Da^n mi`nh trong nu+?a the^' ki? to+'i se~ co' mo^.t ti? le^. dda so^'
nhu+~ng ngu+o+`i cu?a tho+`i ki` dde^` ca^.p dde^'n be^n tre^n. Ta la`m
sao? Tu+o+ng lai da^n Vie^.t se~ ddu+o+.c ai la'i?
Ba^y gio+` to^i no'i ve^` Con Ngu+o+`i.
Nhu+~ng lu'c ban dda^`u
Ddo+`i ngu+o+`i no'i to^?ng qua't la` ba('t dda^`u tu+` trong bu.ng me.,
vo+'i ca'c ma.ng tha^`n kinh na~o hi`nh tha`nh va` ba('t lie^n la.c, mo'c
no^'i vo+'i nhau. Ca'c gia'c quan pha't trie^?n tu+` dda^y. Khi ngu+o+`i ta
no'i dde^'n nhu+~ng ti'n hie^.u lo+'p tre^n dda.i na~o la` no'i dde^'n
nhu+~ng ti'n hie^.u cu?a mo^.t con ngu+o+`i vo+'i tri, vo+'i gia'c.
A^'y la` li' do nay cha me. ddu+o+.c khuye^'n khi'ch cho+i nha.c, no'i
chuye^.n vo+'i con ngay tu+` khi con co`n na(`m trong bu.ng.
Co`n nhu+~ng khi'a ca.nh kha'c nhu+ dinh du+o+~ng, ca'c sinh to^' ca^`n
thie^'t, tra'nh ca'c cha^'t do^.c ha.i, va` tho'i ne^'t cha me. tru+o+'c,
trong lu'c, va` sau khi ba^`u thai cu~ng ra^'t quan tro.ng.
Khi con ra ddo+`i la` nhu+~ng gia^y phu't ma~nh lie^.t nha^'t cu?a ca?m
gia'c con ngu+o+`i. Kho^ng pha?i chi? la` ngu+o+`i me., ma` bao gia'c ca?m
cu?a ddu+'a con trong ca'i bo.c nu+o+'c ddie^`u hoa` nay bie^'n ma^'t ddi
dde^? thay va`o mo^.t the^' gio+'i la.nh lu`ng, sa'ng cho'i va` tro^'ng
kho^ng. Tu+` nhu+~ng gia^y phu't a^'y, ddu+'a con nghe ddu+o+.c va` nha^.n
ra ddu+o+.c ngay tie^'ng me. quen thuo^.c, tie^'ng cha, ne^'u ba^'y la^u
nay cha no'i vo+'i no'...
Ddu+'a con mo+'i sanh na`y kho^ng pha?i la` mo^.t ddu+'a kho^ng no'i kho^ng
ra(`ng, chi? kho'c. Ca'c ba'c ha~y nhi`n no' nhu+ mo^.t Tha'nh Gio'ng,
bie^'t nghe, bie^'t tha^'y, nhu+ng chu+a no'i ddu+o+.c tho^i.
Ddu+'a con na`y ca?m va` ho.c ba(`ng ca?m gia'c. No' ho.c ba(`ng la`n da,
ho.c ba(`ng dda^`u ca'c ngo'n tay. Lo`ng ba`n tay so+` mo', ddu.ng va` thu
nha^.n the^' gio+'i. Lu+o+~i va` mo6i vu+` do` vu+` ddo va` ca?m nha^.n.
No' nha^.n ba(`ng ddo^i ma('t chu+a nhi`n ro~, nhu+ng bie^'t sa'ng va`
to^'i, bie^'t tha^n va` la., ba(`ng mu~i bie^'t mu`i va` ho+i. Nhu+~ng
gia'c ca?m na`y ki'ch thi'ch na~o bo^. cu?a no' la`m vie^.c kho^ng nghi?
dde^? ghi nha^.n va` da`n xe^'p dde^? bie^'t the^' gio+'i mo+'i la. Nhu+`ng
mo'c no^'i na`y la` cho ca? ddo+`i, ba('t dda^`u tu+` dda^y.
Ddu+'a be' ngu? ra^'t nhie^`u. Trong lu'c ngu?, na~o bo^. cu?a no' la`m
vie^.c kinh khu?ng, lie^n la.c va` mo'c no^'i vo+'i nhau dde^? ta.o nhu+~ng
ma.ng lu+o+'i tha^`n kinh thi'ch u+'ng va` chua^?n bi. no' cho the^' gio+'i
mo+'i la. Ho+n mo^.t ti? da^y tha^`n kinh mo'c no^'i va` sanh tru+o+?ng
tie^'p tu.c do.c ngang, le^n xuo^'ng no+i ca'i dda^`u be' ti' kia.
O+? dda^y la` cho^~ to^i muo^'n ca'c ba'c ai cu~ng pha?i ro~: Tre? con
Ra^'t ca^`n kic'h thi'ch dde^? na~o bo^. pha't trie^?n ca'c ma.ng lu+o+'i
lie^n la.c.
Te^' ba`o na~o, kha'c vo+'i ta^'t ca? ca'c te^' ba`o kha'c trong co+ the^?,
chi? ddu+o+.c ta.o ra mo^.t la^`n tu+` trong bu.ng me. to+'i tuo^?i 20 va`
kho^ng ddu+o+.c bo^`i hay thay the^' ma` chi? che^'t ddi tu+` tuo^?i 20
dde^'n gia`( Va` che^'t ca`ng le. ne^'u tu+o+'i ru+o+.u bia va`o!).
Ca`ng ddu+o+.c ki'ch thi'ch, ca'c ma.ng lu+o+'i tha^`n kinh na~o ca`ng mo'c
no^'i nhie^`u. Co' ra^'t nhie^`u nghie^n cu+'u ve^` khi'a ca.nh na`y. ca'c
ba'c cu+' vie^.c mo+? ca'c ta.p chi' nghie^n cu+'u khoa ho.c ve^` na~o
hoa(.c ve^` tre? em thi` se~ co' da^~n ti'ch ngay.
To^i ghi va`i vi' du.: Co' le~ ca'c ba'c cu~ng nha^.n tha^'y su+. lanh le.
cu?a mo^.t so^' be' trong vie^.c ti`m mo^.t gia?i pha'p gi` ddo' so vo+'i
nhu+~ng be' kha'c. A^'y pha^`n lo+'n la` vi` co' ki'ch thi'ch tru+o+'c va`
be' sa(~n sa`ng ho+n. Nhu+ng no'i sa^u ho+n la` trong na~o bo^. cu?a be'
da~ co <di ddu+o+`ng ddo' ro^`i>. Tu+'c la` con ddu+o+`ng dda~ ddu+o+.c
khai pha'. Tuye^'n lie^n la.c dda~ no^'i vo+'i nhau vi' du. mo^.t ca'i
na('p vuo^ng va` ba, bo^'n ca'ch mo+? no' ra ne^u' no' na(`m tre6n mo^.t
ca'i ho^.p (To^i co' cho tre? cho+i tro` ti`m na('p bi' ma^.t cu?a mo^.t
ca'i ho^.p).
Mo^.t vi' du. ve^` na~o va` gia'c quan. Ca'c ba'c cha('c bie^'t ra(`ng co'
ngu+o+`i <ca?m> ddu+o+.c ca'c khoa?ng ca'ch cu?a kho^ng gian ho+n nhu+~ng
ngu+o+`i kha'c. Nhu+~ng ngu+o+`i so^'ng va` lo+'n le^n trong ngo^i nha`
cha^.t, kho^ng ra ngoa`i, thi` thu+o+`ng kho^ng the^? ca?m de^~ da`ng
ddu+o+.c lie^.u mo^.t mie^'ng va'n co' lo.t vu+`a qua cu+?a kho^ng v.v...,
nhu+ng mo^.t ngu+o+`i hay cha.y cho+i tu+` nho?, co' nhie^`u va cha.m,
tu+`ng ca?m va` <ddu.ng> vo+'i kho^ng gian thi` bie^'t ngay.
Nu+~a la` ve~ nhu+~ng hi`nh ca(n ba?n. Kho^ng pha?i no'i dde^'n hoa. si~;
ta chi? no'i ve^` nhu+~ng hi`nh co' go'c ca.nh va` chie^`u sa^u, nhu+ mo^.t
ca'i ba`n, ca'i ho^.p. Ngu+o+`i ta co' ra^'t nhie^`u kha'c bie^.t trong
<kha? na(ng> ve~ du` tie^`m na(ng thi` ai cu~ng nhu+ nhau. Ta chu+a ca^`n
no'i dde^'n ve~ nhie^`u hay ve~ i't, chi? no'i kha? na(ng nha^.n thu+'c
ve^` kho^ng gian va` vi. tri' tho^i. Dda^y la` mo^.t khi'a ca.nh ti' teo
cu?a nhu+~ng ha't trie^?n va` lie^n la.c na~o bo^ ma` ngu+o+`i co' ki'ch
thi'ch se~ a`m ho+n ngu+o+`i thie^'u ki'ch thi'ch.
Ba^y gio+` no'i dde^'n ngu+o+`i lo+'n dde^? so sa'nh. Ne^'u ta nhi`n mo^.t
o^ng hoa. si~ ngu+o+`i Vie^.t ra so^'ng o+? nu+o+'c ngoa`i, Ta^y phu+o+ng
o+? tuo^?i 30-40 thi` ta se~ tha^'y ne't ve~ cu?a o^ng ta thay ddo^?i chu't
ve^` ma`u me` va` khung ca?nh, ki'ch thu+o+'c ti? le^. trong hi`nh, nhu+ng
ne't nhi`n ngu+o+`i va` ne't ve~ ngu+o+`i cu?a o^ng ga^`n nhu+ kho^ng
ddo^?i (ngu+o+`i ta, nha^'t la` ho.a si~, nhi`n ngu+o+`i nhie^`u va`
cha(m).
Ne^'u ta ddem so o^ng ho.a si~ ddu+'ng tuo^?i na`y vo+'i mo^.t anh 15-20
tuo^?i thi` se~ tha^'y anh ta ddo^?i ne't ve~ le. vo^ cu`ng--du` muo^'n hay
kho^ng. Ngay ca? khi kho^ng muo^'n, ne't cu?a anh ta se~ co' a?nh hu+o+?ng
ne't ma(.t va` hi`nh da'ng ngu+o+`i Ta^y phu+o+ng. Ma`u me` cu~ng se~ co'
a?nh hu+o+?ng na(.ng ho+n vi` nha6.n thu+'c cu?a anh ta ddang co`n ddu+o+.c
tie^'p lu.c mo'c no^'i nhu+~ng lie^n la.c mo+'i. Dda^y la` va` vu. de^~
tha^'y, co`n nu+~a nhu+ng to^i dde^? ddo'.
No'i chung co' nghi~a gi` cho da^n mi`nh, cho dda^'t nu+o+'c?
To^i mo+'i kho+?i dda^u ma` da`i qua' ro^`i.
Xong pha^`n na`y, to^i mong ca'c ba'c tha^'u ddu+o+.c ra(`ng:
1. Mo^i tru+o+`ng ki'ch thic'h cho tre? la` to^'i tro.n.g. Ca`ng nhie^`u,
ca`ng so+'m, ca`ng phong phu' ca`ng hay. To^i se~ ba`n cu. the^? sau (nho+'
nha('c to^i).
2. Su+. pha't trie^?n va` mo'c no^'i lie^n la.c cu?a he^. tha^`n kinh Co'
Gio+'i Ha.n tho+`i gian. La` tu+` trong bu.ng me. to+'i tuo^?i 20. Sau ddo'
la` du`ng, va` tie^u ddi da^`n.
Dde^'n dda^'t nu+o+'c:
Ca'c nu+o+'c tie^'n bo^. nay dda~ nha^.n tha^'y i'ch lo+.i cu?a vie^.c
dda^`u tu+ va`o vie^.c <a`o a`o> gia'o du.c va` ki'ch thi'ch tre? tho+
a^'u.
Dda^`u tu+ chi? va`o 5 na(m dda^`u cu?a ddo+`i du+'a tre? lo+.i sau na`y
cho quo^'c gia tra(m pha^`n ho+n va`o tuo^?i lo+'n ho+n trong cu`ng 5 na(m
nhu+ va^.y.
To^'n ke'm nuo^i da.y tre? tho+ i't ho+n, nhu+ng lo+.i nhie^`u ho+n.
Da^n ma.nh, thi` da^n tri' pha?i gia`u, pha?i phong phu', pha?i sa'ng ta.o
va` la`m ne^n.
Su+. sa'ng ta.o ddi ddo^i vo+'i mo^i tru+o+`ng tru+o+?ng tha`nh va` nhu+~ng
ki'ch thi'ch to^'.
To^i se~ ba`n ve^`sa'ng ta.o sau.
_________________
Ta.m ngu+ng o+? dda^y. Ca'c ba'c suy nghi~ ddi.
Toa`n
TB: ba'c na`o muo^'n mo^.t ba`i to^?ng qua't nhu+ng kha' hay va` co' tri'ch
da^~n kha' thi` xem to+` TIME so^' ra 3 tha'ng 2 na(m 97. Ba`i dda(.c
bie^.t: FERTILE MINDS, no'i ve^` pha't trie^?n na~o bo^. no+i tre? em va`
nhu+~ng khi'a ca.nh xa~ ho^.i, nhu+~ng quan he^. vo+'i cha'nh sa'ch quo^'c
gia (My~).
Ca'c ba'c muo^'n chi tie^'t thi` to^i co' mo^.t so^' ba`i vo+? ddie^?n
ti'ch. Co`n thi` ca^`n tra ca'c ta.p chi' chuye^n mo^n cho dda^`y ddu?
ho+n.
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Topic No. 15
Date: Fri, 21 Mar 1997 15:12:14 GMT
From: huy.duong@ctsu.ox.ac.uk
To: vnsa-l@csd.uwm.edu, VNFORUM@saigon.com
Subject: Take something back to Vietnam
Message-ID: <97032115121418@a2.ctsu.ox.ac.uk>
Dear vnforum & VNSA friends,
I'm going back to Vietnam in May for two weeks. If we can get together and buy
something for Vietnam, eg books or equipments for humanitarian purposes,
I am willing to take it and deliver it in Saigon. Is there any idea
what we should give and to whom? I would contribute 30$ to this fund.
Huy
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Topic No. 16
Date: Fri, 21 Mar 1997 09:16:47 -0600
From: ianb@sun670.telecom.tandem.com (Ian Bui)
To: vnsa-l@csd.uwm.edu
Subject: China & the Godfather
Message-ID: <9703211516.AA03023@zoo.tpmsdev>
Theo to^i nghi~ chu'ng ta kho^ng ca^`n phai? lo cho co^'
ve^` vie^.c anh TQ dda'nh VN vi` hie^.n gio*` anh ta kho^ng
muo^'n da^y du*a vao` chie^'n tranh la`m gi` dda^u. Thu*?
hoi? dda'nh nhau vo*'i ta a?nh co' lo*.i o*? cho^~ nao` ?
So*. co`n bi. the^' gio*'i le^n a'n ro^`i kho^ng buo^n ba'n
vo*'i a?nh nu*~a. Gi` chu*' tho*i` buo^?i na`y ngu*o*`i ta
dda'nh nhau ba<`ng kinh te^' kia.
Ho^`i sa'ng nghe tin tu*'c noi' la` trade deficit giu*~a My~
vo*i' Tau` trong tha'ng gie^ng na<m nay dda~ cao ho*n trong
tha'ng gie^ng na<m ngoai' dde^'n ho*n mo^.t ty? ddo^ la xanh.
Hi` hi`, that's a LOT of "ba'nh bao", folks! :))
Tru*o*'c sau gi` VN cu~ng ca^`n phai? modernize bo^. may'
pho`ng thu? v.v. Nhu*ng vie^.c tru*o*'c ma<'t theo to^i tha^'y
la` VN ca^`n ho^.i nha^.p va`o co^.ng ddo^`ng the^' gio*'i
ca`ng so*'m ca`ng to^'t. A<n thua o*? cho^~ ca'c cu. co' gan
la`m hay kho^ng ma` tho^i hay chi? da'm noi' mie^.ng. Co`n
dda'm da^n ddinh nhu* mi`nh co' ngo^`i dda^y ma` ba`n to*'i
Te^'t Congo cha<'c cu~ng cha<?ng ddi dde^'n dda^u dda^u .
Noi' to*'i chuye^.n dda'nh nhau vi` tie^`n mo*'i su*.c nho*',
ho^m nay la` nga`y phim "The Godfather" ddu*o*.c re-released,
ca'c ba'c nao` co' thi` gio*` nho*' ddo'n xem! :)
To^?ng chao`,
Ian
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