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VNSA-L digest 303
VNSA-L Digest 303
Topics covered in this issue include:
1) Ba'o VN: Tin va(n hoa' va(n nghe^.
by Dam Son <son@fermi.phys.washington.edu>
2) Ba'o VN: Tin Kinh te^' - Xa~ ho^.i
by Dam Son <son@fermi.phys.washington.edu>
3) Ba'o VN: SMW.3: tra.m ca'p bie^?n o+? Dda` Na(~ng
by Dam Son <son@fermi.phys.washington.edu>
4) Ba'o VN: Ve^` ca'c ha~ng o^to^ nu+o+'c ngoa`i
by Dam Son <son@fermi.phys.washington.edu>
5) Ba'o VN: Nga`y thu+' 2 cu?a phien toa` so+ tha^?m "Vu. a'n phu'c bo^`"
by Dam Son <son@fermi.phys.washington.edu>
6) Ba'o VN: Tin va(.t
by Dam Son <son@fermi.phys.washington.edu>
7) CDMA !!
by Paul Pham <pham@xmission.com>
8) Re: Ba'o VN: Cha'y Nha` ha`ng Shamvrila o+? TPHCM
by Le Minh Trung <trung@ait.ac.th>
9) Re: Take something back to Vietnam
by Quoc-Lan Nguyen <Quoc-Lan.Nguyen@imag.fr>
10) Re: China and Vietnamn.
by Tran Minh Tien <tran@idefix.mpipks-dresden.mpg.de>
11) Re: Re[4]: Take something back to Vietnam
by Aiviet Nguyen <aiviet@cat.syr.edu>
12) Re: Take something back to Vietnam
by Aiviet Nguyen <aiviet@cat.syr.edu>
13) Re: Ti'nh ca'ch... (3)
by Aiviet Nguyen <aiviet@cat.syr.edu>
14) TWO questions to experts ...
by Sonnet Nguyen <sonnet@theta1.ifpan.edu.pl>
15) Colonists/Refugees/Students
by huy.duong@ctsu.ox.ac.uk
16) Colonists/Refugees/Students
by huy.duong@ctsu.ox.ac.uk
17) Re: TWO questions to experts ...
by "Doan Hong Nghia" <nghia@telemedia.hu>
18) Re: Re[4]: Take something back to Vietnam
by Judy Ladinsky <jlladins@facstaff.wisc.edu>
19) Re: Colonists/Refugees/Students
by Tran Minh Tien <tran@idefix.mpipks-dresden.mpg.de>
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Topic No. 1
Date: Wed, 26 Mar 1997 00:09:15 -0800 (PST)
From: Dam Son <son@fermi.phys.washington.edu>
To: vnsa-l@csd.uwm.edu
Subject: Ba'o VN: Tin va(n hoa' va(n nghe^.
Message-ID: <Pine.SGI.3.91.970326000140.6104C-100000@fermi.phys.washington.edu>
Tin va(n hoa' va(n nghe^.
Ba'o Tie^`n Phong So^' 22 (18/3/1997)
* Cuo^.c thi ha't ca'c ca khu'c tie^'ng Pha'p ta.i Vie^.t Nam dda~
ddu+o+.c tie^'n ha`nh tu+` nay dde^'n tha'ng 6/1997 do DdSQ Pha'p ta.i Ha`
No^.i, To^?ng la~nh su+. Pha'p ta.i TP HCM, Bo^. Gia'o du.c - Dda`o ta.o
va` Bo^. Va(n hoa' Tho^ng tin pho^' ho+.p to^? chu+'c DdSQ Pha'p cho
bie^'t cuo^.c thi na`y chi? da`nh cho nhu+~ng ca si~ kho^ng chuye^n mang
quo^'c ti.ch Vie^.t Nam, tuo^?i tu+` 18-35. Ca'c thi' sinh se~ ddu+o+.c
nha^.n mo^.t ba(ng nha.c ghi sa(~n 20 ba`i tie^'ng Pha'p va` ho. pha?i
cho.n hai ba`i trong so^' na`y dde^? bie^?u die^~n. Vo`ng ba'n ke^'t se~
ba('t dda^`u tu+` tha'ng 5 dde^? cho.n ra 25 thi' sinh ddoa.t gia?i cao
nha^'t se~ ddu+o+.c mo+`i ddi tha(m Pha'p trong tho+`i gian mo^.t tha'ng
dde^? tham du+. lie^n hoan mu`a he` ta.i La Rochelle hoa(.c Limoges.
* Bo^. va(n hoa' - tho^ng tin vu+`a ra quye^'t ddi.nh ca^'p ba(`ng xe^'p
ha.ng 7 di ti'ch li.ch su+? va(n hoa' o+? ti?nh Nghe^. An. Ddo' la` ca'c
di ti'ch : Dde^`n Thanh Lie^.t, Dde^`n Vua Le^, Dde^`n Na^.m So+n, danh
tha('ng Hang Bua, khu Co^`n Mo^, di ti'ch nha` tho+`i ho. Phan Ma.c. So^'
di ti'ch li.ch su+? va(n hoa' cu?a ti?nh ddu+o+.c Bo^. VH-TT ca^'p ba(`ng
xe^'p ha.ng Quo^'c gia to+'i nay la` 87.
H.N.Nam
* Trie^?n la~m tranh lu.a cu?a Dda(.ng Thi. Thu Thua^.n : Thu Thua^.n
sinh na(m 1971 ta.i Qua?ng Nga~i, to^'t nghie^.p DdHSP Ngoa.i Ngu+~ Dda`
Na(~ng na(m 1994 va` chuye^?n qua ve~ tranh lu.a na(m 1995. Su+. xua^'t
hie^.n ddo^.t ngo^.t cu?a Thu Thua^.n ga^y nhie^`u ba^'t ngo+` cho ddo^.c
gia? mie^`n Trung. Tra^`m ti~nh, sa^u la('ng vo+'i nhu+~ng ne't ve~ ta`i
hoa dda^`y nu+~ ti'nh la` ta^'t ca? nhu+~ng gi` ma` ngu+o+`i xem dda~
dda'nh gia' ve^` co^. 40 bu+'c tranh vo+'i hai dde^` ta`i chu? ye^'u la`
pho^' va` ti`nh dda~ la`m ne^n mo^.t pho`ng tranh dde.p ma` la^u nay i't
xua^'t hie^.n o+? Dda` Na(~ng.
Ha.nh Hoa
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Topic No. 2
Date: Wed, 26 Mar 1997 00:09:38 -0800 (PST)
From: Dam Son <son@fermi.phys.washington.edu>
To: vnsa-l@csd.uwm.edu
Subject: Ba'o VN: Tin Kinh te^' - Xa~ ho^.i
Message-ID: <Pine.SGI.3.91.970326000205.6104D-100000@fermi.phys.washington.edu>
Tin Kinh te^' - Xa~ ho^.i
Ba'o Lao ddo^.ng So^' 44 (18/3/1997)
* Tho^ng qua du+. a'n khu ddo^ thi. An Phu'-An Kha'nh
Nga`y 11.3, Chi'nh phu? dda~ co' co^ng va(n do Pho' Thu? tu+o+'ng Tra^`n
Ddu+'c Lu+o+ng ky' tho^ng qua Du+. a'n tie^`n kha? thi dda^`u tu+ xa^y
du+.ng ha. ta^`ng co+ so+? khu ddo^ thi. mo+'i An Phu'-An Kha'nh, TP HCM.
Du+. a'n do Co^ng ty pha't trie^?n kinh doanh nha` thuo^.c So+? Nha`
dda^'t TP HCM la`m chu? dda^`u tu+. Die^.n ti'ch dda^'t cu?a khu ddo^
thi. mo+'i la` 124 ha thuo^.c hai xa~ An Phu' va` An Kha'nh, huye^.n Thu?
Ddu+'c, TP HCM.
HPB
* Tha`nh la^.p ban to^? chu+'c ho^.i cho+. thu+o+ng ma.i Quo^'c Te^'
Nga`y 3.3.1997, Bo^. Thu+o+ng ma.i dda~ quye^'t ddi.nh tha`nh la^.p Ban
chi? dda.o va` to^? chu+'c Ho^.i cho+. thu+o+ng ma.i quo^'c te^' ha`ng
na(m ta.i Ha` No^.i. Ban co' nhie^.m vu. xa^y du+.ng ke^' hoa.ch no^.i
dung, chu+o+ng tri`nh ha`nh ddo^.ng ha`ng na(m cu?a Ho^.i cho+. ; Xem
xe't no^.i dung ca'c ma(.t ha`ng tru+ng ba`y, thie^'t ke^' my~ thua^.t
theo ddu'ng mu.c ddi'ch, no^.i dung ye^u ca^`u ; Pho^'i ho+.p vo+'i dda.i
die^.n thu+o+ng vu. Vie^.t Nam o+? nu+o+'c ngoa`i va^.n ddo^.ng kha'c
tham gia...
B.H
* Bi`nh Du+o+ng : Ddie^`u chi?nh quy hoa.ch khu co^ng nghie^.p
Ti?nh Bi`nh Du+o+ng vu+`a ddie^`u chi?nh quy hoa.ch pha't trie^?n khu
co^ng nghie^.p (KCN) sau khi ta'ch ti?nh (tu+` ti?nh So^ng Be' cu~) go^`m
7 KCN (dde^'n na(m 2000) va` 13 KCN (dde^'n na(m 2010) ; Hie^.n dda~ co'
5 KCN ddu+o+.c ca^'p gia^'y phe'p la` So'ng Tha^`n I, So'ng Tha^`n II,
VSIP, Ddo^`ng An, Vie^.t Hu+o+ng ; co' to^?ng die^.n ti'ch 1.250 ha vo+'i
to^?ng vo^'n dda^`u tu+ 160 trie^.u USD. Ti?nh ddang tri`nh Chi'nh phu?
phe^ duye^.t ca'c KCN tie^'p theo : Ta^n Ddi.nh An, An Phu' (Daso), An
Phu' (Kovi), Ta^n Ddo^ng Hie^.p vo+'i to^?ng die^.n ti'ch 1.029,5 ha.
Tre^n ddi.a ba`n ti?nh Bi`nh Du+o+ng dda~ co' 38 du+. a'n dda^`u tu+
nu+o+'c ngoa`i trong ca'c KCN vo+'i to^?ng dda^`u tu+ 211 trie^.u USD va`
11 du+. a'n DdTNN trong ca'c cu.m quy hoa.ch co^ng nghie^.p vo+'i to^?ng
vo^'n dda^`u tu+ 90,2 trie^.u USD.
Ta^'n Hu`ng
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Topic No. 3
Date: Wed, 26 Mar 1997 00:09:52 -0800 (PST)
From: Dam Son <son@fermi.phys.washington.edu>
To: vnsa-l@csd.uwm.edu
Subject: Ba'o VN: SMW.3: tra.m ca'p bie^?n o+? Dda` Na(~ng
Message-ID: <Pine.SGI.3.91.970326000417.6104G-100000@fermi.phys.washington.edu>
"Se-Me-We 3" va` nhu ca^`u tho^ng tin cha^'t lu+o+.ng cao
Ha?i Cha^u (thu+.c hie^.n)
Ba'o Thanh nie^n So^' 44 (18/3/1997)
Nhu+ TN dda~ ddu+a tin, Trung ta^m Vie^'n tho^ng Quo^'c te^' khu vu+.c 3
vu+`a hoa`n tha`nh kha?o sa't ddi.a ddie^?m xa^y du+.ng tra.m ca^.p bo+`
thuo^.c he^. tho^'ng ca'p bie^?n xuye^n lu.c ddi.a SMW.3 ta.i TP Dda`
Na(~ng. O^ng Nguye^~n Xua^n Hu`ng - Gia'm ddo^'c Trung ta^m Vie^~n tho^ng
Quo^'c te^' khu vu+.c 3 cho bie^'t the^m mo^.t so^' va^'n dde^` chung
quanh vie^.c lu+.a cho.n ddi.a ddie^?m cho mo^.t du+. a'n mang ti'nh
chie^'n lu+o+.c cu?a nga`nh Bu+u chi'nh Vie^~n tho^ng Vie^.t Nam.
PV : Xin o^ng cho bie^'t ve^` he^. tho^'ng ca'p bie^?n quo^'c te^' SMW.3?
Vie^.t Nam tham gia he^. tho^'ng na`y tu+` bao gio+` va` se~ hu+o+?ng
nhu+~ng lo+.i i'ch gi` ?
O^ng Nguye^~n Xua^n Hu`ng (N.X.H) : SMW.3 la` vie^'t ta('t te^n go.i
Se-Me-We 3 he^. tho^'ng ca'p quang bie^?n lo+'n nha^'t the^' gio+'i nay
no^'i tu+` Ta^y A^u qua Trung Ca^.n Ddo^ng to+'i Ddo^ng Nam a' va` Ddo^ng
Ba('c a' (South Eas Asia-Middle East-Western Europe) vo+'i dung lu+o+.ng
thie^'t ke^' 20 GBPS (co' the^? truye^`n ddo^`ng tho+`i 240.000 cuo^.c
go.i). Vie^.t Nam tham gia he^. tho^'ng na`y ngay tu+` dda^`u vo+'i tu+
ca'ch la` tha`nh vie^n co' tra.m ca^.p bo+` (mo^.t so^' nu+o+'c tha`nh
vie^n kha'c kho^ng co' tra.m ca^.p bo+` nhu+ My~...). Hie^.n chu'ng ta
ddang cu`ng thu+.c hie^.n ca'c bu+o+'c tie^'p theo dde^? ddi va`o khai
tha'c. Rie^ng to^?ng vo^'n dda^`u tu+ xa^y du+.ng tra.m ca^.p bo+` ta.i
Dda` Na(~ng dda~ le^n dde^'n 35 trie^.u USD, bao go^`m 01 tra.m ve^. tinh
ma(.t dda^'t, 01 tra.m anten VSAT, 01 tra.m ca'p quang bie^?n quo^'c te^'
va` ca'c khu phu. tro+.. La` tha`nh vie^n cu?a SMW.3, Vie^.t Nam se~
ddu+o+.c hu+o+?ng ca'c quye^`n ve^` su+? du.ng lu+u lu+o+.ng u+u dda~i
theo quy ddi.nh, hu+o+?ng lo+.i nhua^.n theo ty? le^. ddo'ng go'p...
PV: Du+.a tre^n nhu+~ng co+ so+? na`o, To^?ng co^ng ty Bu+u chi'nh Vie^~n
tho^ng (TCTBCVT) cho.n Dda` Na(~ng dde^? xa^y du+.ng tra.m ca^.p bo+` ?
Dda^y co' pha?i la` tra.m duy nha^'t cu?a Vie^.t Nam ?
O^ng N.X.H : Cho.n Dda` Na(~ng dde^? xa^y du+.ng tra.m ca^.p bo+` SMW.3
la` quye^'t ddi.nh mang ti'nh chie^'n lu+o+.c cu?a TCTBCVT sau khi xem
xe't to^?ng ho+.p nhie^`u ye^'u to^'. Trong ddo' quan tro.ng nha^'t la`
dda?m ba?o hoa`n thie^.n ma.ng lu+o+'i vie^~n tho^ng Vie^.t Nam dde^?
tro+? tha`nh mo^.t trung ta^m vie^~n tho^ng quo^'c te^' trong tu+o+ng lai,
ddo^`ng tho+`i ta.o ddu+o+.c hie^.u qua? cao trong vie^.c hoa` nha^.p ca'c
vu`ng cu?a dda^'t nu+o+'c va`o xa lo^. tho^ng tin na`y. Trong 30-40 na(m
to+'i, tra.m ca^.p bo+` Dda` Na(~ng la` tra.m duy nha^'t cu?a SMW.3 nhu+ng
la` tra.m thu+' hai trong toa`n quo^'c vi` hie^.n nay o+? Vu~ng Ta`u dda~
co' tra.m ca^.p bo+` cu?a tuye^'n ca'p bie^?n T-V-H (Thailand- Hongkong).
PV : Dda'nh gia' cu?a o^ng ve^` su+. pha't trie^?n ma.ng lu+o+'i tho^ng
tin ca? nu+o+'c no'i chung va` khu vu+.c mie^`n Trung no'i rie^ng sau khi
tra.m ca^.p bo+` Dda` Na(~ng ddi va`o hoa.t ddo^.ng ?
O^ng N.X.H : Dda'nh gia' kha? na(ng na`y cho 3 na(m nu+~a trong tho+`i
ky` pha't trie^?n nhanh cho'ng cu?a nga`nh vie^~n tho^ng Vie^.t Nam nhu+
hie^.n nay la` ra^'t kho'. Tuy nhie^n co' the^? no'i ra(`ng cu`ng vo+'i
vie^.c ddu+a SMW.3 va`o hoa.t ddo^.ng se~ ta.o kha? na(ng dda'p u+'ng nhu
ca^`u tho^ng tin vo+'i cha^'t lu+o+.ng cao nha^'t va` vo+'i ta^'t ca? ca'c
di.ch vu. cao ca^'p. Khu vu+.c mie^`n Trung se~ la` khu vu+.c ddu+o+.c u+u
tie^n, nhu+ng ta^'t ca? ca'c ddi.a phu+o+ng kha'c cu~ng co' nhu+~ng co+
ho^.i nhu+ nhau dde^? hoa` va`o xa lo^. tho^ng tin na`y cu?a the^' gio+'i
qua ma.ng vie^~n tho^ng Vie^.t Nam.
PV : Cuo^'i cu`ng xin o^ng cho bie^'t ve^` tie^'n ddo^. ddu+a tra.m ca^.p
bo+` Dda` Na(~ng va`o hoa.t ddo^.ng ?
O^ng N.X.H : SMW.3 la` he^. tho^'ng vie^~n tho^ng lo+'n, co' su+. tham gia
cu?a tre^n 35 quo^'c gia tha`nh vie^n. Tra.m ca^.p bo+` cu?a Vie^.t Nam
la` mo^.t ma('t xi'ch trong he^. tho^'ng na`y. Theo du+. kie^'n se~ hoa`n
tha`nh xa^y du+.ng nha` tra.m trong na(m 97, hoa`n chi?nh vie^.c xa^y
du+.ng tuye^'n ca'p tu+` bie^?n va`o tra.m va` la('p dda(.t thie^'t bi.
trong na(m 98, tu+` dda^`u quy' 2-99 se~ ddu+a va`o khai tha'c. Tie^'n
ddo^. na`y co' su+. phu. thuo^.c cu~ng nhu+ a?nh hu+o+?ng lo+'n dde^'n
ca'c nu+o+'c tha`nh vie^n kha'c. Tra.m ca^.p bo+` cu?a Vie^.t Nam sau
tho+`i gian cho.n ddi.a ddie^?m ban dda^`u dda~ ddu+o+.c UBND ti?nh QN-DdN
(cu~) cho phe'p xa^y du+.ng ta.i phu+o+`ng Hoa` Ha?i (qua^.n Ngu~ Ha`nh
So+n, TP Dda` Na(~ng). o+? dda^y co+ so+? ha. ta^`ng ddang la` su+'c e'p
lo+'n ddo^'i vo+'i chu'ng to^i. Ra^'t mong ca'c ban nga`nh cu?a TP Dda`
Na(~ng ta.o ddie^`u kie^.n dde^? chu'ng to^i kho^ng cha^.m tre^~ so vo+'i
ye^u ca^`u chung.
PV : Xin ca?m o+n o^ng!
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Topic No. 4
Date: Wed, 26 Mar 1997 00:10:14 -0800 (PST)
From: Dam Son <son@fermi.phys.washington.edu>
To: vnsa-l@csd.uwm.edu
Subject: Ba'o VN: Ve^` ca'c ha~ng o^to^ nu+o+'c ngoa`i
Message-ID: <Pine.SGI.3.91.970326000307.6104F-100000@fermi.phys.washington.edu>
Ca^u chuye^.n qua?n ly'
Nho+~ Lua^.t
Ta^`n Duy Phu+o+ng
Ba'o Lao ddo^.ng So^' 44 (18/3/1997)
Gio+` thi` ca'c ha~ng o^to^ nu+o+'c ngoa`i ddang ri'u ri't na('m tay nhau
to+'i Vie^.t Nam. Dda~ co' 14 ha~ng bu+o+'c cha^n va`o ca'i thi. tru+o+`ng
su+'c mua khoa?ng 50.000 xe/na(m na`y, va` co' le~ co`n nhie^`u ho+n
nu+~a.
5 na(m tru+o+'c ti`nh the^' hoa`n toa`n kha'c ha(?n, ma(.c du` Chi'nh phu?
ke^u go.i dda^`u tu+, nhu+ng co' le~ e ra(`ng da^n ta nghe`o, ne^n so^'
Co^ng ty o^to^ nu+o+'c ngoa`i "nha^.p no^.i" dde^'m ddu+o+.c tre^n dda^`u
ngo'n cu?a mo^.t ba`n tay. Ta^'t ca? chi? co' 2 Co^ng ty lie^n doanh va`
VMC la` mo^.t trong so^' ddo'. Ta.i tho+`i ddie^?m a^'y, le~ di nhie^n,
VMC dda~ la^.p lua^.n chu+'ng kinh te^' ky~ thua^.t va` cu~ng ti'nh dde^'n
kha? na(ng no^.i ddi.a hoa' ca'c linh kie^.n, phu. tu`ng. Tuy nhie^n ha.n
mo^'c va` ty? le^. cu. the^? chu+a ddu+o+.c dde^` ca^.p to+'i mo^.t ca'ch
si't sao bo+?i phi'a Vie^.t Nam cu~ng chu+a co' va(n ba?n cu. the^? na`o
quy ddi.nh.
Ho+n ba na(m sau nga`y co^ng ty VMC nha^.n gia^'y phe'p, Uy? ban Nha`
nu+o+'c ve^` Ho+.p ta'c va` Dda^`u tu+ cu?a Vie^.t Nam mo+'i co' Co^ng
va(n so^' 230/UB-TDd (nga`y 14.11.1994) hu+o+'ng da^~n ca'c co^ng ty
lie^n doanh la('p ra'p - sa?n xua^'t o^to^ ta.i Vie^.t Nam "tu+` na(m
thu+' 5 ke^? tu+` khi ba('t dda^`u sa?n xua^'t pha?i su+? du.ng linh
kie^.n phu. tu`ng sa?n xua^'t ta.i Vie^.t Nam vo+'i ty? le^. i't nha^'t
la` 5% gia' tri. xe"... Hu+o+'ng da^~n na`y, theo chu'ng to^i hie^?u, co'
the^? coi nhu+ mo^.t tie^u chua^?n, dde^? lu+.a cho.n, ca'c ha~ng o^to^
dde^'n sau muo^'n lie^n doanh khai tha'c mo^.t thi. tru+o+`ng dda~
ddu+o+.c khai pha'. Tie^'c ra(`ng vo^ hi`nh trung no' la.i la`m kho' cho
nhu+~ng co^ng ty dde^'n tru+o+'c, bo+?i vo+'i ho. mo^.t chie^'n lu+o+.c
da`i la^u dda~ ddu+o+.c xa'c ddi.nh ; va` khi la^.p chie^'n lu+o+.c ddo'
thi` nhu+~ng ye^u ca^`u na`y chu+a ddu+o+.c ti'nh dde^'n. Tha^'m thoa't,
tho+`i ha.n 5 na(m theo tinh tha^`n Co^ng va(n 2308/UB-TDd dda~ dde^'n
vo+'i co^ng ty VMC. Trong 5 na(m, Co^ng ty dda~ thu+.c hie^.n to^'t du+.
a'n cu?a mi`nh : doanh thu dda.t 1.537 ti? ddo^`ng, no^.p nga^n sa'ch 371
ti? dde^.m va` no^.i tha^'t o^to^ dda^`u tu+ 9,8 trie^.u USD, la('p dda(.t
va` ddu+a va`o va^.n ha`nh he^. tho^'ng so+n ti~nh ddie^.n,... dda?m ba?o
vie^.c la`m va` thu nha^.p cho ho+n 900 lao ddo^.ng. Dda~ la` quy ddi.nh
thi` pha?i thu+.c hie^.n, nhu+ng da^~u sao nhu+~ng quy ddi.nh muo^.n ma(`n
na`y dda~ dda(.t co^ng ty va`o ti`nh the^' ba^'t kha? kha'ng. Dde^? sa?n
xua^'t no^.i ddi.a hoa' thi` lu+o+.ng phu. tu`ng pha?i ddu? lo+'n trong
khi so^' lu+o+.ng xe lie^n doanh la('p ra'p ha`ng na(m la.i qua' nho?
(khoa?ng 1.000 xe/na(m). Ca'c co+ so+? trong nu+o+'c chu+a ddu? kha?
na(ng cung ca^'p sa?n pha^?m dda.t ye^u ca^`u cha^'t lu+o+.ng va` gia'
tha`nh. Ne^'u tie^'p tu.c sa?n xua^'t co^ng ty se~ kho^ng dda.t hie^.u
qua? kinh te^', tha^.m chi' tan ra~ vi` kho^ng ddu+o+.c thi. tru+o+`ng
cha^'p nha^.n.
Dde^? giu'p mo^.t doanh nghie^.p vu+o+.t qua nhu+~ng kho' kha(n kho^ng
pha?i tu+. ho. sinh ra, thie^'t nghi~ ne^n co' nhu+~ng bo^? sung thi'ch
ho+.p va`o Co^ng va(n 2308/UB-TDd. Ddie^`u ddo' cu~ng de^~ hie^?u bo+?i
tu+` la^u da^n to^.c ta dda~ co' truye^`n tho^'ng ye^u quy' nhu+~ng
ngu+o+`i ba.n dde^'n vo+'i ta tu+` nhu+~ng nga`y dda^`u gian kho'.
------------------------------
Topic No. 5
Date: Wed, 26 Mar 1997 00:10:27 -0800 (PST)
From: Dam Son <son@fermi.phys.washington.edu>
To: vnsa-l@csd.uwm.edu
Subject: Ba'o VN: Nga`y thu+' 2 cu?a phien toa` so+ tha^?m "Vu. a'n phu'c bo^`"
Message-ID: <Pine.SGI.3.91.970326000521.6104H-100000@fermi.phys.washington.edu>
153/1997 - Nga`y thu+' 2 cu?a phien toa` so+ tha^?m "Vu. a'n phu'c bo^`"
Su+. ha^'p da^~n ba^'t ngo+`
Nho'm pho'ng vie^n no^.i chi'nh
Ba'o Lao Ddo^.ng So^' 44 (18/3/1997)
* Ngu+o+`i ddu+o+.c nha('c dde^'n nhie^`u nha^'t la.i la` ke? va('ng ma(.t!
* Giu+~a phie^n toa`, mo^.t "ba.n ga'i" dda~ lo.t va`o giu+~a dda'm pha.m
nha^n, ngo^`i ru'c ri'ch ca? tie^'ng ddo^`ng ho^`.
Sa'ng nga`y thu+' hai cu?a phie^n toa`, Ho^.i ddo^`ng xe't xu+? (HDdXX)
tie^'n ha`nh tha^?m va^'n ca'c bi. ca'o co' lie^n quan dde^'n to^.i danh
"Cu+o+~ng ddoa.t ta`i sa?n co^ng da^n". Ga^`n 20 bi. ca'o co' ha`nh vi
tre^n thu+`a nha^.n su+. sai tra'i cu?a mi`nh, nhu+ng dde^`u nha^'t loa.t
kha(?ng ddi.nh ho. la`m vie^.c du+o+'i su+. sai khie^'n cu?a Du+o+ng Tu+?
Anh, ke? ddang bo? tro^'n, chu+' kho^ng pha?i Phu' bo^` chi? dda.o. Vo+'i
ca'c bi. ca'o na`y, "Phu'c bo^` chi? la` ngu+o+`i tha^n cu?a Du+o+ng Tu+?
Anh ma` ho. co' ga(.p ddo^i la^`n" va`o nhu+~ng di.p Phu'c bo^` dde^'n
tha(m no+i la`m vie^.c cu?a Tu+? Anh o+? 30 pho^' Cu+?a Ddo^ng (!).
Ne^'u su+. va('ng ma(.t cu?a ta^'t ca? ca'c nha^n chu+'ng, ngu+o+`i bi.
ha.i dda~ ga^y kho' kha(n, ha.n che^' ke^'t qua?, theo chie^`u hu+o+'ng
"co' ha.i", cho ca'c bi. ca'o trong nga`y dda^`u tie^n tha^?m va^'n thi`
trong nga`y thu+' hai na`y, vie^.c va('ng Du+o+ng Tu+? Anh la.i ra^'t "co'
lo+.i" cho "ngu+o+`i ba.n ga'i tha^n thie^'t" - Phu'c bo^` cu?a ha('n.
Ta^'t ca? "to^.i no+.", ca'c bi. ca'o dde^`u do^`n he^'t le^n dda^`u ke?
va('ng ma(.t. Va` dde^? nha^'t qua'n ho+n, ta^'t ca? dde^`u phu? nha^.n
nhu+~ng gi` ho. dda~ khai tru+o+'c ddo' la` co' lie^n quan trong chuye^.n
la`m a(n vo+'i Phu'c bo^`, khi mo^~i la^`n chu? toa. phie^n toa` tri'ch
ddo.c ca'c bu't lu.c, ra(`ng : Pha^`n lo+'n nhu+~ng lo+`i khai ddo' la`
do ho. bi. e'p cung hoa(.c ngu+o+`i ddie^`u tra the^m va`o, trong tho+`i
gian ho. bi. giam cu+'u (!).
Nhu+ nhie^`u to+` ba'o dda~ dde^` ca^.p, vu. a'n Phu'c bo^` ra^'t ddu+o+.c
du+ lua^.n quan ta^m... Song, qua hai nga`y tha^?m va^'n, nhu+~ng
ngu+o+`i du+. xe't xu+? (ra^'t nhie^`u lua^.t gia va` nha` ba'o) tha^'y
lo nga.i thay cho HDdXX. Bo+?i le~, tru+` mo^.t va`i vu. vie^.c kho^ng
gia^'u no^?i nhu+ : xa^m pha.m cho^~ o+? co^ng da^n (ngo~ 2 La'ng Ha.),
ba('t giu+~ ngu+o+`i tra'i pha'p lua^.t (57 Ha`ng Bo^`) ca'c bi. ca'o
pha?i thu+`a nha^.n, co`n pha^`n lo+'n ca'c vu. kha'c chu+'ng cu+' kho^ng
dda^`y ddu?, thie^'u vu+~ng va`ng ne^n bi. ca'o kho^ng thu+`a nha^.n
hoa(.c pha?n cung.
Ddie^`u quan tro.ng nha^'t la` ta`i lie^.u ddie^`u tra va` HDdXX kho^ng
la`m ro~ ddu+o+.c vai tro` "thu? li~nh" cu?a Phu'c bo^`, vi` quan he^.
giu+~a ca'c bi. ca'o vo+'i Phu'c trong mo^.t ha`nh vi hay mo^.t to^.i danh
na`o ddo' dde^`u bi. chu'ng "ca('t ca^`u". Mo^.t ca'n bo^. phu. tra'ch
ddie^`u tra vu. a'n na`y dda~ no'i vo+'i chu'ng to^i :"Phu'c kho^ng ma^'y
khi xua^'t dda^`u lo^. die^.n, tru+.c tie^'p tham gia va`o vie^.c ma` chi?
ddu+'ng sau dde^? xu'i giu.c, ddie^`u khie^?n bo.n tay cha^n..." Nhu+ng
"ddu+'ng sau" la` vu. na`o, cho^~ na`o thi` kho^ng xa'c ddi.nh ddu+o+.c.
Ngay ve^` to^.i danh "xa^m pha.m cho^~ o+? co^ng da^n" cu~ng co' ddie^`u
pha?i ba`n. Cho^~ o+? co^ng da^n trong vu. na`y la` dda^'t ddai, nha`
cu+?a cu?a hai gia ddi`nh : o^ng Tru+o+ng Quy' Tha`nh va` chi. Thanh Ha`
(ngo~ 2 La'ng Ha.) bi. bo.n tay cha^n cu?a Phu'c dde^'n cu+o+'p pha'
chie^'m giu+~ va` dda^?y chu? nha^n ra kho?i nha`. Va^.y sao co+ quan
ddie^`u tra va` chi'nh HDdXX kho^ng kho+?i to^' chu'ng tru+o+'c he^'t ve^`
to^.i cu+o+'p ta`i sa?n co^ng da^n ?
- Vi` nha` cu+?a dda^'t ddai la` mo^.t thu+' ta`i sa?n lo+'n, sau ddo'
mo+'i dde^'n to^.i xa^m pha.m cho^~ o+?...
Ve^` no^.i quy phie^n toa` xem ra co' pha^`n kho^ng ddu+o+.c nghie^m tu'c
: nhie^`u bi. ca'o hu't thuo^'c la' trong lu'c ddang "ngo^`i" tru+o+'c
va`nh mo'ng ngu+.a ngoa?nh la.i va^~y tay, cu+o+`i no'i vo+'i tha^n nha^n
o+? ca'c ha`ng ghe^' sau ma` kho^ng he^` bi. ca?nh sa't tra.i giam hoa(.c
ca?nh sa't ba?o ve^. phie^n toa` nha('c nho+?. Tha^.m chi' mo^.t co^ ga'i
ma(.t tra'i xoan, khoa?ng 20 tuo^?i ma(.c a'o ve't ma`u tra('ng "ngo^`i
la^~n" va`o dda'm bi. ca'o tro` chuye^.n li'ch ri'ch ma^'y gio+` lie^`n
vo+'i bi. ca'o, sau mo+'i bi. pha't hie^.n va` ddu+a ra kho?i pho`ng xu+?
lu'c 10h30 sa'ng ?
Ky? lua^.t pho`ng xu+? nhu+ va^.y thi` bi. ca'o va` "thu? li~nh" Phu'c
bo^` ma(.c su+'c tho^ng cung, mo+'m cung cho nhau va` "ho^.i y'" ca'c y'
kie^'n quan tro.ng ; va` do ddo' kho^ng co' ma^'y hy vo.ng HDdXX se~ la`m
sa'ng to? ddu+o+.c nhie^`u ddie^`u trong ma^'y nga`y xu+? tie^'p cu?a vu.
a'n na`y.
------------------------------
Topic No. 6
Date: Wed, 26 Mar 1997 00:10:40 -0800 (PST)
From: Dam Son <son@fermi.phys.washington.edu>
To: vnsa-l@csd.uwm.edu
Subject: Ba'o VN: Tin va(.t
Message-ID: <Pine.SGI.3.91.970326000607.6104I-100000@fermi.phys.washington.edu>
Ddo.c nhanh
Ba'o Lao ddo^.ng So^' 44 (18/3/1997)
* Na(m 1997, ca^'p pha't 7.000 tivi cho vu`ng nu'i, vu`ng cao So^'
lu+o+.ng he^. tho^'ng xem truye^`n hi`nh ba(`ng TVRO trong na(m se~ ta(ng
the^m 10 tra.m va` se~ co' 80 tra.m pha't la.i truye^`n hi`nh ddu+o+.c
xa^y du+.ng mo+'i. Ddo' la` mu.c tie^u cu?a mo^.t chu+o+ng tri`nh do Dda`i
THVN thu+.c hie^.n. Cu~ng trong khuo^n kho^? chu+o+ng tri`nh na`y, na(m
1996, 6. 868 chie^'c ti vi ma`u 20 inch va` anten dda~ ddu+o+.c ca^'p
pha't cho 3.134 xa~ mie^`n nu'i, ddo+n vi. bo^. ddo^.i bie^n pho`ng.
Chu+o+ng tri`nh co`n trang bi. va` to^? chu+'c la('p dda(.t he^. tho^'ng
xem truye^`n hi`nh ba(`ng TVRO cho 30 ddie^?m, chu? ye^'u o+? ca'c ddo^`n
bie^n pho`ng bie^n gio+'i, ha?i dda?o va` mo^.t so^' ddie^?m da^n cu+.
Thu Tra`
* Tru+o+`ng DdH Ba'ch Khoa Ha` No^.i se~ mo+? the^m 3 nga`nh su+ pha.m ky~
thua^.t
Dde^? dda'p u+'ng nhu ca^`u ve^` lu+.c lu+o+.ng gia'o vie^n su+ pha.m ky~
thua^.t ddang co`n thie^'u hie^.n nay, tu+` nie^n ho.c 1997, tru+o+`ng
DdHBK Ha` no^.i se~ mo+? the^m 3 nga`nh dda`o ta.o su+ pha.m ky~ thua^.t.
Ddo' la` : Su+ pha.m ky~ thua^.t co+ khi'. Nhu+ va^.y, dde^'n nay,
tru+o+`ng DdHBK co' 11 khoa vo+'i 64 nga`nh ho.c. Nie^n ho.c 1997,
tru+o+`ng se~ tuye^?n 3.000 sinh vie^n dda.i ho.c va` 3.000 sinh vie^n cao
dda(?ng.
* Bi`nh Ddi.nh : xa^y du+.ng tra.m pha't ddie^.n na(ng lu+o+.ng ma(.t
tro+`i
Tra.m pha't ddie^.n na(ng lu+o+.ng ma(.t tro+`i dda~ ddu+o+.c ti?nh BDd
xa^y du+.ng ta.i ba'n dda?o ba~i Xe^'p, thuo^.c phu+o+`ng Quang Trung - TP
Quy Nhon. To^?ng co^ng sua^'t cu?a tra.m la` 1.200W cung ca^'p nguo^`n
ddie^.n cho khu da^n cu+ ta.i dda^y. Kinh phi' xa^y du+.ng co^ng tri`nh
la` 120 trie^.u ddo^`ng. Vie^.t Hie^`n
* TP. Ho^` Chi' Minh : na(m 1996, ngu+o+`i tie^u du`ng khie^'u na.i 195
vu.
Nga^n nga`y Quo^'c te^' Ngu+o+`i tie^u du`ng (NTD) 15.3, Ho^.i Ba?o ve^.
quye^`n lo+.i NTD TP. Ho^` Chi' Minh dda~ to^?ng ke^'t hoa.t ddo^.ng na(m
1996. Trong na(m qua, to^?ng so^' vu. NTD khie^'u na.i la` 195 vo+'i
to^?ng gia' tri. tre^n 1,2 ti? ddo^`ng ; nhie^`u nha^'t ve^` li~nh vu+.c
ddie^.n tu+? (47), ddie^.n ma'y (49), di.ch vu. (42), xe ma'y (30)...
Ke^'t qua? gia?i quye^'t dda.t ty? le^. 85,79%... So^' vu. gia?i quye^'t
kho^ng tha`nh co^ng ha^`u he^'t do nha` sa?n xua^'t hoa(.c nha` pha^n
pho^'i sa?n pha^?m kho^ng tho^ng tin dda^`y ddu? va` to^n tro.ng nhu+~ng
nguye^n ta('c ba?o ve^. quye^`n lo+.i NTD. DQ
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Topic No. 7
Date: Wed, 26 Mar 1997 01:28:54 -0700 (MST)
From: Paul Pham <pham@xmission.com>
To: vnsa-l@csd.uwm.edu
Subject: CDMA !!
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.3.95.970326012632.14368E-100000@xmission.xmission.com>
Dear VNSAers !!
i'm looking for some books on CMDA (code division multiple
access) and anti-jamming. Prefer 1 book that not emphasize too much
on theoretical. 1 theoretical is OK
any sugeestion is welcome
thnaks
Danh
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Topic No. 8
Date: Wed, 26 Mar 1997 15:34:44 +0700
From: Le Minh Trung <trung@ait.ac.th>
To: vnsa-l@csd.uwm.edu
Subject: Re: Ba'o VN: Cha'y Nha` ha`ng Shamvrila o+? TPHCM
Message-ID: <3338DFA4.83E@ait.ac.th>
Dam Son wrote:
TP HCM : Cha'y Nha` ha`ng Shamvrila
.....
Sorry for this correction:
Nha` ha`ng na`y te^n la` Shangrila, mi`nh dda~ dde^'n ddo' nhie^`u la^`n
du+. dda'm cu+o+'i (cu?a ngu+o+`i kha'c (:-)). Cha('c la` ba'o vie^'t
nha^`m.
----
Le Minh Trung
Asian Institute of Technology, STAR Program
P.O. Box 4 KlongLuang, Pathumthani 12120, Thailand
Internet: http://www.rsl.ait.ac.th/~trung/
Tel. (662) 524 5585 Fax. (662) 524 6147
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Topic No. 9
Date: Wed, 26 Mar 1997 10:51:11 +0100
From: Quoc-Lan Nguyen <Quoc-Lan.Nguyen@imag.fr>
To: vnsa-l@csd.uwm.edu
Subject: Re: Take something back to Vietnam
Message-ID: <199703260951.KAA13807@seth.imag.fr>
> Kho^ng bie^'t ca'c da.i ho.c (Ba'ch Khoa & To^?ng ho+.p) o+? Saigo`n va`
> Ha`no^.i dda~ co' khoa Petroleum Engineering chu+a nhi?
>
> Tha^n, Bu+?u-Long
Chao` cac' bac',
O*? BKhoa TP HCM da~ co' khoa Co^ng nghe^ da^u` khi' (vo*i' 3 pha^n nganh` thi`
phai?: tha*m do`, khai thac', che^' bie^n'). Ho da~ nha^n Svie^n (sau khi qua
dai cuo*ng) tu*` 2 na*m nay.
Noi' chung y' do^` mang sach' ve^` VN ra^t' hay. Va^n' de^` duy nha^t' chi?
la` mang gi` ve^`, va` cu the^? co* quan nao` de^? kho^ng phai? ro*i vao`
canh? dem cui? ve^` ru*ng`.
Cha*ng? han nhu* cac' guide Microsoft Excel 6.0 ... o*? TP HCM kho^ng thie^u'.
Ca? nguye^n ban?, la^n~ ban? dich loan xa., tum` lum nha` xua^t' ban? in ra,
cha*ng? hie^u? da^u ma` la^n`. Microsoft co' mo*? chi nhanh' dai die^n tai
VN (O*? Saigon la` Co^ng ty Ta^n Du*c'), thanh` ra cac' sach' kie^u? do' vao`
ra^t' nhanh. The^m vao` nhu ca^u` lo*n', thanh` ra da^n "lam` a*n" nhanh chong'
dich thua^t, tung ra thi truo*ng`, gia' tu*` 2 USD -> 10,12 USD. Cha^t'
luo*ng dich, xin mie^n~ binh`.
FAHASA (Co^ng ty phat' hanh` sach' TP HCM) co' dich vu nha^p sach' cu~ (original
version) ve^` ban' tru*c tie^p'. U*u tie^n cho cac' sach' ve^` Computer Science,
Economic, Management .., va` luo*ng sach' ve^` kho^ng it'. Buo*c' vao` cac'
qua^y` sach' nay`, hay nhin` vao` tu? sach' cac' co^ng ty may' tinh', kho' noi'
ra*ng` Vnam thie^u' tho^n' tai` lie^u. Cac' chuye^n nganh` khac' (Hoa', Co*
Khi' ...) it' sach' ve^` va` cung~ ha^u` nhu* kho^ng co' ai dich ra.
Duo*ng nhie^n, SV ngheo` va^n~ kho^ng vo*i' to*i' no^i~ cac' sach' nguye^n ban?
(gia' tu*` 20 - 40 USD). Thu* vie^n truo*ng` thi` thie^u' nga^n sach', va` cung~
kho^ng cach' nao` dap' u*ng' no^i~ nhu ca^u` cua? vai` ngan` sinh vie^n. O*?
cac' tinh?, toi nghi~ tinh` trang con` ngheo` nan` ho*n. Nhu*ng~ no*i do', co'
le~ ho ra^t' ung? ho^ sang' kie^n' cua? cac' bac'. Va? lai, sach' ve^` no*i do',
ta^n` so^' xu*? dung se~ cao le^n ha*n?.
To^i da~ tim` cach' lie^n lac vo*i' nguo*i` quen co^ng tac' tai Thu* vie^n DHBK
TP HCM qua E-mail, nhu*ng chu*a tha^y' ho^i` a^m. Hy vong se~ co' the^m
tho^ng tin tru*c tie^p' ve^` nhu ca^u` cu. the^? cho cac' bac'.
Theo cho^~ to^i bie^t', kie^n' thu*c' o*? nha` dang di ve^` huo*ng' u*ng' dung
trie^t de^?. Nhu ca^u` lo*n' la` lam` sao tie^p' thu duo*c co^ng nghe^ mo*i' do
cac' co^ng ty lie^n doanh dua vao`. Chu*a ke^? nhu ca^u` gio*i' giang? vie^n DH
ca^n` kie^n' thu*c' giang? day, vo*i' nhu ca^u` cua? ky~ su* da~ di lam` cung~
khac' nhau. Co' le~ chuye^n nay` ne^n tham khao? qua VKS de^? nha^n the^m tho^ng
tin, truo*c' khi hanh` do^ng cu. the^?,
Mail ba^t' ta^.n ngo^n,
QLa^n.
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Topic No. 10
Date: Wed, 26 Mar 1997 11:11:16 +0100 (MET)
From: Tran Minh Tien <tran@idefix.mpipks-dresden.mpg.de>
To: vnsa-l@csd.uwm.edu
Subject: Re: China and Vietnamn.
Message-ID: <9703261011.AA05043@idefix.mpipks-dresden.mpg.de>
>
> Hi Anh Tien,
> What are you aiming at. I am not imigrant yet. I have the right to talk
> as I served in VN for twenty years after I graduated. After that I never
> used any government fund nor any aid in any form.
Hi Anh Ai' Vie^.t,
I know. But I did not say that you are an immigrant or you owe an
education fee. My first message on this topic responded not to you, but
to someone else. Perhaps, you have been involved in this topic,
and you felt something from my message. I guess, I understood your
responses. Ca^y ngay thi` kho^ng bao gio+` so+. che^'t ddu+'ng\.
Oh, if you known who is my first target ...
Cheers,
Tien.
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Topic No. 11
Date: Wed, 26 Mar 1997 06:28:12 -0500 (EST)
From: Aiviet Nguyen <aiviet@cat.syr.edu>
To: vnsa-l@csd.uwm.edu
Subject: Re: Re[4]: Take something back to Vietnam
Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.91.970326062534.12069A-100000@lynx.cat.syr.edu>
Hi Anh Paul,
Sorry, IT means Information Technology. I think not only IT books but
all kind of books ( especially text books are needed).
Thank you
Aiviet
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Topic No. 12
Date: Wed, 26 Mar 1997 06:47:18 -0500 (EST)
From: Aiviet Nguyen <aiviet@cat.syr.edu>
To: vnsa-l@csd.uwm.edu
Subject: Re: Take something back to Vietnam
Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.91.970326063511.12069B-100000@lynx.cat.syr.edu>
Hi Anh Buu Long,
Cach dday 2 na(m, Anh Pham Xua^n Ye^m o+? DH Paris VI co' vie^'t mo^.t
ba`i tre^n CERN Courier cho ca'c Khoa ho.c gia tre^n the^' gio+'i xin
sa'ch cho VN. Co' mo^.t so^' ngu+o+`i cho sa'ch. Ca'c anh cu+? to^i lo
trong pha.m vi North America. Va` co' the^? xin ddu+o+.c tie^`n shipping.
Lu'c ddo' to^i ba^.n qua' ne^n kho^ng la`m gi` ddu+o+.c. Co' o^ng ti'ng
go+?i to+'i nguye^n ca? collection, to^i la`m so pha?i lo lu+.a va` boxing.
Ne^'u la`m mo^.t mi`nh e pha?i ma^'t ma^'y tua^`n.
To^i nghe no'i chi. Judy Ladinsky, co' mo^.t bo^. pha^.n go+?i sa'ch
cho VN, ba^y gio+` kho^ng bie^'t co`n hoa.t ddo^.ng kho^ng. Hi`nh nhu+
chi. lo go+?i sa'ch cho thu+ vie^.n tho^i. Ne^'u va^.y thi` chi? ca^`n
1,2 ba?n go+?i nhie^`u la` ho. giu.c thu`ng ra'c. Sa'ch textbook ra^'t
ca^`n thie^'t cho ca'c department dde^? cho ca'c em HS co' the^? mu+o+.n.
Co' va` ba?n thi` ca'c o^ng the^`y se~ ke^ ngo^`i cho ... cao.
Vi` va^.y bie^'t dda^u ca^`n dde^? go+?i tru'ng cho^~ la` ca^`n thie^'t.
To^i cu~ng collect ddu? ca'c thu+', cha('c se~ co' di.p xa`i to+'i.
To^i nghi~ Dh Ba'ch khoa HN va` Sa`i go`n dde^`u co' khoa da^`u khi'.
Cheers
Aiviet
On Wed, 26 Mar 1997, Buulong Nguyen wrote:
> On Tue, 25 Mar 1997, Aiviet Nguyen wrote:
>
> > Hi ANh Paul and any VNSA,
> > Ne^'u anh em co' any sa'ch vo+? ho.c IT hoa(.c ba^'t cu+' thu+' gi`
> > co' the^? hu+~u du.ng xin gom la.i du`m. Khi dda~ nhie^`u kha kha' co'
> > the^? go+?i ve^`. Nho+` anh em cho mo^.t ca'i list. dde^? ddo+~ shipping
> > expense.
> > Thanks
> > Aiviet
>
> Anh Ai' Vie^.t a`,
>
> Da^n la`ng VNSA so^'ng ra?i ra'c kha('p no+i, la`m sao gom sa'ch la.i
> ddu+o+.c dda^y?
>
> Ngoa`i sa'ch IT ra, sa'ch ca'c nga`nh khoa ho.c- ky~ thua^.t kha'c co'
> ca^`n kho^ng va^.y?
>
> Tui ddang la`m vie^.c o+? mo^.t Department of Petroleum Engineering.
> Thi?nh thoa?ng ho. cu~ng hay bo? sa'ch cu~ la('m (text books, monographs,
> conference proceedinds, etc.). No'i la` cu~ nhu+ng tho^ng tin trong ddo'
> va^~n hu+~u du.ng. (Tui thi/nh thoa?ng va^~n ti`m tha^'y trong ca'c
> sa'ch va` papers tu+` nhu+~ng na(m 50-60 - lu'c tui co`n chu+a chui ra
> - nhu+~ng tho^ng tin va` data ra^'t qu'y).
>
> Ne^'u ca'c chuye^n gia la`ng ta tha^'y la` ca'c sa'ch a^'y co' the^? co'
> i'ch cho anh em sinh vien nha` mi`nh thi` signal cho tui bie^'t nha'.
> Tui cha('c kho^ng ve^` Vietnam ddu+o+.c ne^n se~ kho^ng mang sa'ch ve^`
> ddu+o+.c. Co' ba'c na`o da^n la`ng ta o+? trong vu`ng la^n ca^.n cu?a
> Holland xin o+'i cho mo^.t tie^'ng.
>
> Kho^ng bie^'t ca'c da.i ho.c (Ba'ch Khoa & To^?ng ho+.p) o+? Saigo`n va`
> Ha`no^.i dda~ co' khoa Petroleum Engineering chu+a nhi?
>
> Tha^n, Bu+?u-Long
>
>
>
>
>
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Topic No. 13
Date: Wed, 26 Mar 1997 07:16:21 -0500 (EST)
From: Aiviet Nguyen <aiviet@cat.syr.edu>
To: vnsa-l@csd.uwm.edu
Cc: Multiple recipients of list <vnsa-l@csd.uwm.edu>
Subject: Re: Ti'nh ca'ch... (3)
Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.91.970326065515.12069C-100000@lynx.cat.syr.edu>
Hi Anh Hoa`ng anh Viet Hai va cac anh,
Ca?m o+n Anh Vie^.t Ha?i dda~ thu+ rie^ng ca?nh ca'o la` chu+a chu+`ng
to^i bi. anh em VNSA se~ no^? cho mo^.t tra^.n tan ta`nh. The^' ma` ho^m nay
ca'c anh la.i no'i nhe. nha`ng la`m to^i ... tha^'t vo.ng he^'t su+'c.
Chuye^.n ma`u sa('c to^i xin ke^? the^m la` ho^`i co`n choai choai ma^'y
anh ba.n to^i cu+' me^ ma^?n ca'c co^ ga'i va` go.i ca'c na`ng theo ma`u a'o:
Na`o a? "Da bo`", na`ng "ma('m to^m", con "cu+'t ngu+.a"... ( dda.i tu+`
la` pha^n bie^.t tu+`ng anh, chu+' kho^ng pha?i pha^n bie^.t ca'c
"nu+o+`ng" dda^u). To^i nghe ro^`i he^'t muo^'n nhi`n. Sau ddo' to^i "xoa'y"
ddu+o+.c cu?a o^ng gia` chu+~ ma`u thie^n thanh dde^? ta? "nu+o+`ng" cu?a
mi`nh thi` tha^'y a(n kha'ch la('m. Te' ra ma`u thie^n thanh la` xanh da
tro+`i la^'y o+? tie^'ng Ta`u.
Xin ke^? the^m xanh lu.c, den huye^`n, o^, ti'a, ... xoa'y cu?a Ta`u.
Be, ghi,... xo'ay cu?a Ta^y. Dda so^' ma`u tie^'ng vie^.t la` la^'y be'ng
mo^.t su+. cu. the^? dde^? go.i. Xanh ca^y, dden ma`u tro, ta`n thuo^'c la',
no`ng su'ng,... dde^`u thuo^.c loa.i na`y.
Anh Vie^.t Ha?i ho?i to^i ma^'y chu+~ ddo' nu+o+'c ngoa`i no' no'i ra
la`m sao. Xin tra? lo+`i la` ma`u ma`u "nho+` nho+`" bo.n na`y no' co' he^'t.
Co' le~ con ga'i to^i thi` no' ra`nh. To^i la` da^n Mi't, ne^n cu~ng
kho^ng tru+` mi`nh ra ddu+o+.c, ngay ca? ho.c ma`u cu~ng ho.c tru+o+'c
que^n sau, bo+?i vi` kho^ng co' kha'i nie^.m tu+? te^' ve^` ma`u sao ma`
ho.c dda^y.
Co`n ma^'y ca'i chuye^.n tu+ duy tru+`u tu+o+.ng ke'm va` "ddoa`n
ke^'t" chu+a tha^'y anh na`o no'i gi`.
Bo.n Ta`u Dda.i Ha`n ( tu+'c qua' to^i chi? muo^'n go.i bo. no' la`
Tie^?u Ha`n) ho.c Ho'a ho.c va` ma.ch ddie^.n gio?i nho+` chu+~ cu+'
ngo(`an ngoe`o nhu+ giun. Va^.y la` ngo^n ngu+~ cu~ng xa'c la^.p ti'nh
ca'ch da^n to^.c chu+'.
Thanks
Aiviet
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Topic No. 14
Date: Wed, 26 Mar 1997 12:20:59 +0100 (MET)
From: Sonnet Nguyen <sonnet@theta1.ifpan.edu.pl>
To: VNSA <vnsa-l@csd.uwm.edu>
Subject: TWO questions to experts ...
Message-ID: <Pine.SGI.3.95.970326120547.22108A-100000@theta1.ifpan.edu.pl>
Hi all,
My questions are following:
1)IS THERE A GOOD PROGRAMME WHICH CAN SOLVE (numerically) THE SCHRODINGER
EQUATION WITH (ARBITRARY) BOUNDARY-INITIAL CONDITIONS?
2)Does exist a program which can solve (numerically) a large class
of partial differential equations 2-nd orders (ellitic, parabolic,
hyperbolic) with arbitrary boundary conditions?
BTW.
How could do this program when a equation with fixed boundary conditions
has no solution?
------------------------------
Topic No. 15
Date: Wed, 26 Mar 1997 12:51:19 GMT
From: huy.duong@ctsu.ox.ac.uk
To: vnsa-l@csd.uwm.edu
Subject: Colonists/Refugees/Students
Message-ID: <97032612511957@a2.ctsu.ox.ac.uk>
Cha`o ba'c Tie^'n,
> Oh, kha'c nhau nhie^`u la('m\. Nhu+~ng ngu+o+`i Minh hu+o+ng
> khi sang VN thi` ho. co' co`n ga^n co^? vo~ mo^`m ye^u sa'ch
> nha` Thanh tra? nu+o+'c la.i cho nha` Minh kho^ng ?
Ho. -da'nh kho^ng la.i, kha'ng chie^'n kho^ng -du+o+.c thi` ye^u sa'ch gi`
-du+o+.c? Ho^`i -do' Trung Quo^'c la` trung ta^m vu~ tru., -da^u co' co^.ng
-do^`ng the^' gio+'i -da'ng ho. ke^u go.i,
> Ho. Ly'
> Hoa so+n khi sang Trie^`u tie^n co' gu+?i ye^u sa'ch nha` Tra^`n
> thoa'i vi. kho^ng ?
Cha<'c ho. nghi~ thoa't ma.ng la` may ro^`i. Ye^u sa'ch cha<'c
Tra^`n Thu? -Do^. mo+`i ve^` a<n co^~ no'i chuye^.n ho. cu~ng nga.i.
Cha<'c nha` To^'ng cu~ng kho^ng ra?nh -de^? nghe chuye^.n ho..
Nhu+~ng ngu+o+`i na`y cha<'c chi? la` nhu+~ng nha'nh xa cua?
hoa`ng to^.c (ne^n TT-D mo+'i bo? xo't), nha` Ly' cu~ng tho^'i na't,
ho. cha<'c cu~ng kho^ng nghi~ co+ -do^` la` cua? ho. -de^? chie^'m la.i.
(Kho^ng hie^?u sao ho. la.i cha.y tuo^'t to+'i Korea. Va` nha^'t la`
kho^ng hie^?u da^n ti`nh VN ra sao? Coi bo^.ho^`i -do' VN ho+i pho'ng
khoa'ng ve^` -do^?i vua: Du+o+ng-->Ngo^, -Dinh-->Le^-->Ly'-->Tra^`n.
Cho to+'i Tra^`n-->Ho^` mo+'i tha^'y tu+ tu+o+?ng Kho^?ng nhie^`u.)
> Tu.i My~ theo Washington co' ba('t vua Anh
> (hay nu+~ hoa`ng Anh) pha?i che^'t kho^ng ? DDa^'y la` 1 chuye^.n\.
Ba<'t la`m chi? Nu+o+'c Anh la` nhu+~ng gi` ho. muo^'n bo? sau lu+ng,
ho. co' mo^.t nu+o+'c -do^.c la^.p -de^? thu+.c hie^.n ly' tu+o+?ng la` co'
-die^`u ho. muo^'n ro^`i. Ho. la` colonists.
> Chuye^.n kha'c la` nhu+~ng ngu+o+`i ddu+o+`ng ddu+o+`ng mang quo^'c
> ti.ch VN, mo+? mie^.ng va^~n nha^.n thuo^.c da^n to^.c VN, va(n ho'a
> VN, no'i nhu+ ro^`ng bay phu+o+.ng mu'a ve^` kie^'n thie^'t, xa^y
> du+.ng VN etc. nhu+ng chi? toa`n ngo^`i o+? nu+o+'c ngoa`i kie^'n
> thie^'t va` xa^y du+.ng VN ba(`ng mo^`m tho^i\. Tuy nhie^n cu~ng
> pha?i ca?m o+n ho. vi` xa^y ba(`ng mo^`m cu~ng la` xa^y, co' co`n
> ho+n kho^ng va` ho. cho ra(`ng o+? ho. o+? nu+o+'c ngoa`i thi` se~
> hu+~u i'ch cho VN ho+n ho+n la` ho. o+? VN\.
Anh Tie^'n ma.t sa't va` mia? mai ngu+o+`i ty. na.n qua'. Quo^'c ti.ch VN la`
hoa`n ca?nh lua^.t VN. Nha^.n thuo^.c da^n to^.c va` va<n hoa' VN
la` -die^`u ho. co' quye^`n va` la` -die^`u -to^'t. Trong hoa`n ca?nh
na`y, -da^u pha?i ai, trong hay ngoa`i nu+o+'c, co' the^? xa^y du+.ng
kie^'n thie^'t mo^.t ca'ch de^~ da`ng, va` -da^u pha?i ai cu~ng bie^'t
la`m gi` la` hu+~u i'ch nha^'t. Ho. cu~ng co' ly'. Eg co' ngu+o+`i ve^`
nu+o+'c ta.o -du+o+.c 2000$ GNP (10 la^`n tru`ng bi`nh), nhu+ng tie^u
thu. he^'t 1/2, -do'ng go'p 1000, ne^'u o+? ngoa`i ho. co' the^? gu+?i
ve^` va` -do'ng go'p 5000, ga^'p 5. Va` -da^u pha?i ai cu~ng no'i nhu+
PMRB, va` -da^u pha?i ai cu~ng kho^ng la`m gi`.
> Chuye^.n kha'c nu+~a la` dda^`y da^~y ngu+o+`i Vie^.t o+? ca'c tra.i
> ty. na.n o+? DDu+'c, Ho^`ng ko^ng etc. kho^ng muo^'n la`m da^n Vie^.t
> ma` ho. co' ddu+o+.c ca'i kho^ng na`y kho^ng ? Sao ho. kho^ng co'
> quye^`n lu+.a cho.n da^n to^.c ? Ba'c A'i Vie^.t, Tua^'n Pha.m ...
> giu'p ho. ddu+o+.c kho^ng ? Ca'c ba'c ma` giu'p ho. ddu+o+.c thi`
> phu'c
> ddu+'c co`n nhie^`u ho+n ca? ca't so^ng Ha(`ng ddo'\.
-Da^y la` chi'nh sa'ch cua? ca'c nu+o+'c co' the^? nha^.n ty. na.n.
Va` ba^'t cu+' ngu+o+`i ty. na.n na`o cu~ng chi? co' quye^`n cho.n du+o+'i
hi`nh thu+'c cho.n xin ty. na.n o+? -nu+o+'c na`o. -Du+o+.c cho hay kho^ng la`
quye^`n cua? nu+o+'c -do' chu+' kho^ng bao gio+` la` quye^`n cua?
ngu+o+`i ty. na.n. Tha'ch ba'c Vie^.t va` Tua^'n la`m gi`?
> DDie^`u mi?a mai kinh khu?ng ma` to^i tha^'y la` da^n ty. na.n thi`
> kho^ng ddu+o+.c quye^`n ty. na.n, co`n du ho.c sinh ddo+`i cha cho
> chi' ddo+`i con hu+o+?ng lo^.c cu?a CHXHCN VN thi` la.i ddu+o+.c
> ty. na.n\. Ca'i dda'm da^n dden kia chi? vi` kho^ng ddu+o+.c ho.c
> bo^?ng du ho.c ne^n do^'t kho^ng bie^'t ma'nh ma` la`m ty. na.n\.
> Cu+' ho?i ca'c ba'c .... thi` ro~\.
DHS va` NCS -da^u co' `la`m ty. na.n' va` `-du+o+.c ty. na.n'. Nhu+~ng
chuye^.n kho^ng lie^n quan kho^ng co' vi` nhau ta.o ra -die^`u mia? mai.
No'i chung -do+`i cha/-do+`i con hu+o+?ng lo^.c nhu+ va^.y, mong ba'c
kho^ng ky` thi. va` ke^? ca? nhu+~ng DHS/NCS co' cha -du+o+.c hu+o+?ng lo^.c
vo+'i hi`nh thu+'c ho.c ta^.p ca?i ta.o va` chi'nh ho. -du+o+.c -di lao
-do^.ng va`i na<m sau khi -da~ co' kha? na<ng va`o -da.i ho.c, va` nhu+~ng
ngu+o+`i -du+o+.c lo^.c kho^ng kha'c gi` `-da'm da^n -den' ba'c no'i to+'i.
Huy
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Topic No. 16
Date: Wed, 26 Mar 1997 12:51:19 GMT
From: huy.duong@ctsu.ox.ac.uk
To: vnsa-l@csd.uwm.edu
Subject: Colonists/Refugees/Students
Message-ID: <97032612511957@a2.ctsu.ox.ac.uk>
Cha`o ba'c Tie^'n,
> Oh, kha'c nhau nhie^`u la('m\. Nhu+~ng ngu+o+`i Minh hu+o+ng
> khi sang VN thi` ho. co' co`n ga^n co^? vo~ mo^`m ye^u sa'ch
> nha` Thanh tra? nu+o+'c la.i cho nha` Minh kho^ng ?
Ho. -da'nh kho^ng la.i, kha'ng chie^'n kho^ng -du+o+.c thi` ye^u sa'ch gi`
-du+o+.c? Ho^`i -do' Trung Quo^'c la` trung ta^m vu~ tru., -da^u co' co^.ng
-do^`ng the^' gio+'i -da'ng ho. ke^u go.i,
> Ho. Ly'
> Hoa so+n khi sang Trie^`u tie^n co' gu+?i ye^u sa'ch nha` Tra^`n
> thoa'i vi. kho^ng ?
Cha<'c ho. nghi~ thoa't ma.ng la` may ro^`i. Ye^u sa'ch cha<'c
Tra^`n Thu? -Do^. mo+`i ve^` a<n co^~ no'i chuye^.n ho. cu~ng nga.i.
Cha<'c nha` To^'ng cu~ng kho^ng ra?nh -de^? nghe chuye^.n ho..
Nhu+~ng ngu+o+`i na`y cha<'c chi? la` nhu+~ng nha'nh xa cua?
hoa`ng to^.c (ne^n TT-D mo+'i bo? xo't), nha` Ly' cu~ng tho^'i na't,
ho. cha<'c cu~ng kho^ng nghi~ co+ -do^` la` cua? ho. -de^? chie^'m la.i.
(Kho^ng hie^?u sao ho. la.i cha.y tuo^'t to+'i Korea. Va` nha^'t la`
kho^ng hie^?u da^n ti`nh VN ra sao? Coi bo^.ho^`i -do' VN ho+i pho'ng
khoa'ng ve^` -do^?i vua: Du+o+ng-->Ngo^, -Dinh-->Le^-->Ly'-->Tra^`n.
Cho to+'i Tra^`n-->Ho^` mo+'i tha^'y tu+ tu+o+?ng Kho^?ng nhie^`u.)
> Tu.i My~ theo Washington co' ba('t vua Anh
> (hay nu+~ hoa`ng Anh) pha?i che^'t kho^ng ? DDa^'y la` 1 chuye^.n\.
Ba<'t la`m chi? Nu+o+'c Anh la` nhu+~ng gi` ho. muo^'n bo? sau lu+ng,
ho. co' mo^.t nu+o+'c -do^.c la^.p -de^? thu+.c hie^.n ly' tu+o+?ng la` co'
-die^`u ho. muo^'n ro^`i. Ho. la` colonists.
> Chuye^.n kha'c la` nhu+~ng ngu+o+`i ddu+o+`ng ddu+o+`ng mang quo^'c
> ti.ch VN, mo+? mie^.ng va^~n nha^.n thuo^.c da^n to^.c VN, va(n ho'a
> VN, no'i nhu+ ro^`ng bay phu+o+.ng mu'a ve^` kie^'n thie^'t, xa^y
> du+.ng VN etc. nhu+ng chi? toa`n ngo^`i o+? nu+o+'c ngoa`i kie^'n
> thie^'t va` xa^y du+.ng VN ba(`ng mo^`m tho^i\. Tuy nhie^n cu~ng
> pha?i ca?m o+n ho. vi` xa^y ba(`ng mo^`m cu~ng la` xa^y, co' co`n
> ho+n kho^ng va` ho. cho ra(`ng o+? ho. o+? nu+o+'c ngoa`i thi` se~
> hu+~u i'ch cho VN ho+n ho+n la` ho. o+? VN\.
Anh Tie^'n ma.t sa't va` mia? mai ngu+o+`i ty. na.n qua'. Quo^'c ti.ch VN la`
hoa`n ca?nh lua^.t VN. Nha^.n thuo^.c da^n to^.c va` va<n hoa' VN
la` -die^`u ho. co' quye^`n va` la` -die^`u -to^'t. Trong hoa`n ca?nh
na`y, -da^u pha?i ai, trong hay ngoa`i nu+o+'c, co' the^? xa^y du+.ng
kie^'n thie^'t mo^.t ca'ch de^~ da`ng, va` -da^u pha?i ai cu~ng bie^'t
la`m gi` la` hu+~u i'ch nha^'t. Ho. cu~ng co' ly'. Eg co' ngu+o+`i ve^`
nu+o+'c ta.o -du+o+.c 2000$ GNP (10 la^`n tru`ng bi`nh), nhu+ng tie^u
thu. he^'t 1/2, -do'ng go'p 1000, ne^'u o+? ngoa`i ho. co' the^? gu+?i
ve^` va` -do'ng go'p 5000, ga^'p 5. Va` -da^u pha?i ai cu~ng no'i nhu+
PMRB, va` -da^u pha?i ai cu~ng kho^ng la`m gi`.
> Chuye^.n kha'c nu+~a la` dda^`y da^~y ngu+o+`i Vie^.t o+? ca'c tra.i
> ty. na.n o+? DDu+'c, Ho^`ng ko^ng etc. kho^ng muo^'n la`m da^n Vie^.t
> ma` ho. co' ddu+o+.c ca'i kho^ng na`y kho^ng ? Sao ho. kho^ng co'
> quye^`n lu+.a cho.n da^n to^.c ? Ba'c A'i Vie^.t, Tua^'n Pha.m ...
> giu'p ho. ddu+o+.c kho^ng ? Ca'c ba'c ma` giu'p ho. ddu+o+.c thi`
> phu'c
> ddu+'c co`n nhie^`u ho+n ca? ca't so^ng Ha(`ng ddo'\.
-Da^y la` chi'nh sa'ch cua? ca'c nu+o+'c co' the^? nha^.n ty. na.n.
Va` ba^'t cu+' ngu+o+`i ty. na.n na`o cu~ng chi? co' quye^`n cho.n du+o+'i
hi`nh thu+'c cho.n xin ty. na.n o+? -nu+o+'c na`o. -Du+o+.c cho hay kho^ng la`
quye^`n cua? nu+o+'c -do' chu+' kho^ng bao gio+` la` quye^`n cua?
ngu+o+`i ty. na.n. Tha'ch ba'c Vie^.t va` Tua^'n la`m gi`?
> DDie^`u mi?a mai kinh khu?ng ma` to^i tha^'y la` da^n ty. na.n thi`
> kho^ng ddu+o+.c quye^`n ty. na.n, co`n du ho.c sinh ddo+`i cha cho
> chi' ddo+`i con hu+o+?ng lo^.c cu?a CHXHCN VN thi` la.i ddu+o+.c
> ty. na.n\. Ca'i dda'm da^n dden kia chi? vi` kho^ng ddu+o+.c ho.c
> bo^?ng du ho.c ne^n do^'t kho^ng bie^'t ma'nh ma` la`m ty. na.n\.
> Cu+' ho?i ca'c ba'c .... thi` ro~\.
DHS va` NCS -da^u co' `la`m ty. na.n' va` `-du+o+.c ty. na.n'. Nhu+~ng
chuye^.n kho^ng lie^n quan kho^ng co' vi` nhau ta.o ra -die^`u mia? mai.
No'i chung -do+`i cha/-do+`i con hu+o+?ng lo^.c nhu+ va^.y, mong ba'c
kho^ng ky` thi. va` ke^? ca? nhu+~ng DHS/NCS co' cha -du+o+.c hu+o+?ng lo^.c
vo+'i hi`nh thu+'c ho.c ta^.p ca?i ta.o va` chi'nh ho. -du+o+.c -di lao
-do^.ng va`i na<m sau khi -da~ co' kha? na<ng va`o -da.i ho.c, va` nhu+~ng
ngu+o+`i -du+o+.c lo^.c kho^ng kha'c gi` `-da'm da^n -den' ba'c no'i to+'i.
Huy
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Topic No. 17
Date: Wed, 26 Mar 1997 14:07:33 CET
From: "Doan Hong Nghia" <nghia@telemedia.hu>
To: vnsa-l@csd.uwm.edu
Subject: Re: TWO questions to experts ...
Message-ID: <6583802FAF@telemedia.hu>
> Date: Wed, 26 Mar 1997 06:34:42 -0600 (CST)
> Reply-to: vnsa-l@csd.uwm.edu
> From: Sonnet Nguyen <sonnet@theta1.ifpan.edu.pl>
> To: Multiple recipients of list <vnsa-l@csd.uwm.edu>
> Subject: TWO questions to experts ...
> Hi all,
> My questions are following:
>
> 1)IS THERE A GOOD PROGRAMME WHICH CAN SOLVE (numerically) THE SCHRODINGER
> EQUATION WITH (ARBITRARY) BOUNDARY-INITIAL CONDITIONS?
>
Anh Sonnet than men,
Nhu Nghia biet tren khoa Nghia (University of Sciences, Budapest,
Program Designer Mathemetics Depart, Numeric Analyse) co mot so
chuong trinh nhu anh Sonnet muon, chi co dieu may chuong trinh khong
phai cua Nghia. Neu can Nghia co the hoi cho anh Sonnet ?
> 2)Does exist a program which can solve (numerically) a large class
> of partial differential equations 2-nd orders (ellitic, parabolic,
> hyperbolic) with arbitrary boundary conditions?
>
Ja, nhu tren.
> BTW.
> How could do this program when a equation with fixed boundary conditions
> has no solution?
>
>
>
Than ai,
Doan Hong Nghia
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Topic No. 18
Date: Sun, 23 Mar 1997 23:39:56 -0600
From: Judy Ladinsky <jlladins@facstaff.wisc.edu>
To: vnsa-l@csd.uwm.edu
Subject: Re: Re[4]: Take something back to Vietnam
Message-ID: <199703261436.IAA70542@audumla.students.wisc.edu>
At 05:34 AM 3/26/97 -0600, you wrote:
>Hi Anh Paul,
> Sorry, IT means Information Technology. I think not only IT books but
>all kind of books ( especially text books are needed).
> Thank you
> Aiviet
Dear Ai Viet
If you arethinking about bringing IT books, check with Vu Duy Man at the UN
for what is needed. His phone number is 2l2-963-2054
Judy Ladinsky
US Comm for Sci Cooperation with Vietnam>
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Topic No. 19
Date: Wed, 26 Mar 1997 15:58:47 +0100 (MET)
From: Tran Minh Tien <tran@idefix.mpipks-dresden.mpg.de>
To: vnsa-l@csd.uwm.edu
Subject: Re: Colonists/Refugees/Students
Message-ID: <9703261458.AA22384@idefix.mpipks-dresden.mpg.de>
Cha`o ca'c ba'c,
Hy vo.ng to^i co' the^? ke^'t thu'c topic na`y o+? ba`i na`y.
> > Chuye^.n kha'c la` nhu+~ng ngu+o+`i ddu+o+`ng ddu+o+`ng mang quo^'c
> > ti.ch VN, mo+? mie^.ng va^~n nha^.n thuo^.c da^n to^.c VN, va(n ho'a
> > VN, no'i nhu+ ro^`ng bay phu+o+.ng mu'a ve^` kie^'n thie^'t, xa^y
> > du+.ng VN etc. nhu+ng chi? toa`n ngo^`i o+? nu+o+'c ngoa`i kie^'n
> > thie^'t va` xa^y du+.ng VN ba(`ng mo^`m tho^i\. Tuy nhie^n cu~ng
> > pha?i ca?m o+n ho. vi` xa^y ba(`ng mo^`m cu~ng la` xa^y, co' co`n
> > ho+n kho^ng va` ho. cho ra(`ng o+? ho. o+? nu+o+'c ngoa`i thi` se~
> > hu+~u i'ch cho VN ho+n ho+n la` ho. o+? VN\.
>
> Ba'c Huy:
> Anh Tie^'n ma.t sa't va` mia? mai ngu+o+`i ty. na.n qua'. Quo^'c ti.ch VN la`
> hoa`n ca?nh lua^.t VN. Nha^.n thuo^.c da^n to^.c va` va<n hoa' VN
> la` -die^`u ho. co' quye^`n va` la` -die^`u -to^'t. Trong hoa`n ca?nh
> na`y, -da^u pha?i ai, trong hay ngoa`i nu+o+'c, co' the^? xa^y du+.ng
> kie^'n thie^'t mo^.t ca'ch de^~ da`ng, va` -da^u pha?i ai cu~ng bie^'t
> la`m gi` la` hu+~u i'ch nha^'t. Ho. cu~ng co' ly'. Eg co' ngu+o+`i ve^`
> nu+o+'c ta.o -du+o+.c 2000$ GNP (10 la^`n tru`ng bi`nh), nhu+ng tie^u
> thu. he^'t 1/2, -do'ng go'p 1000, ne^'u o+? ngoa`i ho. co' the^? gu+?i
> ve^` va` -do'ng go'p 5000, ga^'p 5. Va` -da^u pha?i ai cu~ng no'i nhu+
> PMRB, va` -da^u pha?i ai cu~ng kho^ng la`m gi`.
Thu+' nha^'t, ddo' kho^ng pha?i la` ngu+o+`i ty. na.n
Thu+' hai, to^i kho^ng ma.t sa't hay mi?a mai ma` no'i nhu+~ng gi`
to^i ddu+o+.c chu+'ng kie^'n\. Co`n ba'c hie^?u the^' na`o la` quye^`n
cu?a ba'c\.
>
> > DDie^`u mi?a mai kinh khu?ng ma` to^i tha^'y la` da^n ty. na.n thi`
> > kho^ng ddu+o+.c quye^`n ty. na.n, co`n du ho.c sinh ddo+`i cha cho
> > chi' ddo+`i con hu+o+?ng lo^.c cu?a CHXHCN VN thi` la.i ddu+o+.c
> > ty. na.n\. Ca'i dda'm da^n dden kia chi? vi` kho^ng ddu+o+.c ho.c
> > bo^?ng du ho.c ne^n do^'t kho^ng bie^'t ma'nh ma` la`m ty. na.n\.
> > Cu+' ho?i ca'c ba'c .... thi` ro~\.
>
> Ba'c Huy:
> DHS va` NCS -da^u co' `la`m ty. na.n' va` `-du+o+.c ty. na.n'. Nhu+~ng
> chuye^.n kho^ng lie^n quan kho^ng co' vi` nhau ta.o ra -die^`u mia? mai.
Ne^'u ba'c kho^ng ro~ DHS hay NCS co' xin la`m ty. na.n hay kho^ng thi`
cho+' vo^.i ke^'t lua^.n\. To^i bie^'t mo^.t so^' ngu+o+`i va` ho. cu~ng co'
ma(.t ca? trong mailing list na`y\. Tha^.m chi' to^i co`n bie^'t ca?
ho. dda~ tu+`ng pha?i la`m gi` dde^? ddu+o+.c political immigrant.
No'i nhu+ va^.y kho^ng co' nghi~a la` to^i ghe't gi` ho.\. Ho. co' quye^`n
lu+.a cho.n ha.nh phu'c cho ca' nha^n mi`nh\. Nhu+ng la`m gi` thi` la`m,
da^~u co' vuo^'t ma(.t cu~ng ne^n ne^? mu~i, dda^u dde^'n no^~i pha?i ca.n
ta`u ra'o ma'ng xoe` tay phu? ma(.t kho^ng nhi`n\. Ngay trong so^' ho., to^i
cu~ng tha^'y u+'ng xu+? kha'c nhau nhie^`u la('m\. Co' nhu+~ng ngu+o+`i
mo^.t tho+`i the't ra lu+?a, dde` dda^`u cu+o+~i co^? DHS, mo+? mie^.ng
thi` Ma'c xi't-Le^nini't ghe^ ngo+'m la('m, nhu+ng khi tho+`i the^' thay
ddo^?i thi` ho. cu~ng xoay nhanh nhu+ chong cho'ng theo chie^`u ngu+o+.c
la.i\. Gio+` thi` la.i ca ba`i "ye^u nu+o+'c, thu+o+ng da^n, thu` Ta`u ..."
ye^u sa'ch na`y no., nhi`n ma` tha^'y ngu+'a ma('t\.
Nhu+ng ma` ca'c ba'c DHS immigrant ddu+`ng co' gia^.n to^i\. Nghi~ sao
no'i va^.y tho^i, chu+' ca'c ba'c mo+`i bia thi` to^i va^~n uo^'ng ddo'\.
Da^~u sao thi` to^i cu~ng ca?m tho^ng ddu+o+.c tha^n pha^.n lu+u vong la('m\.
Ca? 6 ha`o trong que? Lu+~, kho^ng co' ha`o na`o sa'ng su?a, toa`n bi
dda't ca?\. Ca'i kho^? cu?a ca'c ba'c to^i cu~ng bie^'t la('m chu+'\.
A^u cu~ng la` kie^'p ngu+o+`i ca? tho^i\. "Thuye^`n ai ngu+o+.c gio',
ai xuo^i gio'; Coi la.i cu`ng trong be^? kho^? tho^i"\.
Cheers, Tien.
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