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VNSA-L digest 304
VNSA-L Digest 304
Topics covered in this issue include:
1) Re: Stomach
by "Toan" <toan@usa.net>
2) Specificity
by huy.duong@ctsu.ox.ac.uk
3) Solar power
by huy.duong@ctsu.ox.ac.uk
4) Chu*~ BA'C trong tie^'ng Viet.
by My Huyen Nguyen <M.H.Nguyen-iq1b7756@lmu.ac.uk>
5) wavelets
by Do Dinh Nghia <don@iem.pw.edu.pl>
6) Re: Specificity
by Tran Minh Tien <tran@idefix.mpipks-dresden.mpg.de>
7) Re: Ti'nh ca'ch... (3)
by Tran Minh Tien <tran@idefix.mpipks-dresden.mpg.de>
8) Law of the Seas
by huy.duong@ctsu.ox.ac.uk
9) Re: Specificity
by Vo Van Phuong <phuongvv@dk-online.dk>
10) Re: wavelets
by Dam Son <son@fermi.phys.washington.edu>
11) [FROM ADMIN] Request for anh Tran Minh Tien, and moderation of, refugee threads
by Dam Son <son@fermi.phys.washington.edu>
12) Re: Ti'nh ca'ch... (3)
by Tuan Pham <tuan.pham@unsw.edu.au>
13) Re: TWO questions to experts ...
by Aiviet Nguyen <aiviet@cat.syr.edu>
14) Re: Ti'nh ca'ch... (3)
by Aiviet Nguyen <aiviet@cat.syr.edu>
15) The Applicant
by ianb@sun670.telecom.tandem.com (Ian Bui)
16) Re: The Applicant
by Tuan V Nguyen <t.nguyen@garvan.unsw.edu.au>
17) Re: Chu*~ BA'C trong tie^'ng Viet.
by Dung Nguyen <dungn@CapAccess.org>
18) [THO*] Ga(.p
by Luong.Ta@Singapore.Sun.COM (Luong Ta)
19) Re:The Applicant
by Yurong@oes.itri.org.tw
20) Re: Ti'nh ca'ch... (3)
by Tuan V Nguyen <t.nguyen@garvan.unsw.edu.au>
21) Re: Solar power
by Dam Son <son@fermi.phys.washington.edu>
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Topic No. 1
Date: Wed, 26 Mar 1997 10:20:14 -0500
From: "Toan" <toan@usa.net>
To: <vnsa-l@csd.uwm.edu>
Cc: <trung@ait.ac.th>
Subject: Re: Stomach
Message-ID: <199703261502.KAA23840@ns.kreative.net>
Cha`o ba'c Trung,
Dda^`u tie^n la` uo^'ng co^ca kho^ng la`m loe't ca'i da. da`y cu?a ba'c
dda^u. Ddu+`ng lo.
Tui cho ai mu+o+.n cuo^'n dinh du+o+~ng ro^`i ne^n kho^ng tri'ch ra cho
ba'c ddu+o+.c. Nho+' gi` ghi na^'y.
Co^ ca co' nu+o+'c, ca`-phe^ -in, nu+o+'c ddu+o+`ng ca-ra-men, va` carbon
so^ -dda. Ne^'u no'i ve^` ha.i thi` co' hai ddie^?m kho^ng to^'t cu?a Co^ca
(to^i ddinh ninh ba'c no'i Coca Cola chu+' kho^ng pha?i Cacao).
2 ddie^`u ha.i la`:
1. Carbon soda la`m co+ the^? kho^ng ha^'p thu. ddu+o+.c Calcium. Nhu+~ng
ngu+o+`i uo^'ng nhie^`u co^ca (hay ba^'t cu+' loa.i nu+o+'c carbon soda
na`o kha'c) chu+`ng 1 li't/nga`y trong 2-3 na(m tro+? ddi thi` se~ tha^'y
ha`m ra(ng ddi tru+o+'c, ro^`i xu+o+ng co^'t ddi sau (ga~y).
2. Ca-phe^-in la` mo^.t ki'ch thi'ch to^' (stimulant) co' the^? nghie^.n
ddu+o+.c va` co' pha?n u+'ng trong co+ the^? ne^'u ngu+o+`i nghie^.n bo?
kho^ng tie^'p tu.c (ta'nh cha^'t na`y thu+o+`ng vo+'i dda so^' ca'c cha^'t
nghie^.n--a'-phie^.n, ca^`n sa, ru+o+.u, bia, thuo^'c la', dda`n ba` ).
Bo+?i va^.y ne^'u ba'c nghie^.n ca`-phe^-in, du` la` co^ ca hay ca`-phe^,
ne^'u sa'ng da^.y ma` kho^ng co' no' thi` ca?m tha^'y mi`nmh kho^ng la`m
vie^.c ddu+o+.c, ra^'t kho' chi.u tu+` dda^`u o'c dde^'n co+ the^?
No'i ve^` thu+'c a(n sa'ng:
Sa'ng ba'c ne^n a(n nhie^`u ho+.p cha^'t hu+~u co+ carbohydrates. Thu+'c
a(n sa'ng ngu+o+`i mi`nh ra^'t kha', nhu+ xo^i ne^'p, xo^i ba('p, ca'c
loa.i cha'o dda^.u, ba'nh bo^.t. O+? My~ ngu+o+`i ta a(n cereal nhie^`u,
thu+o+`ng la` tu+` ngo^ ba('p hoa(.c lu'a ga.o cu`ng ca'i loa.i tra'i ca^y
kho^ tro^.n the^m chu't su+~a.
Tra'nh a(n cha^'t be'o buo^?i sa'ng vi` cha^'t be'o ddo`i ho?i nhie^`u o+?
co+ the^? dde^? ha^'p thu., va` se~ la`m me^.t.
Ne^'u <ke.t> dde^"n nhu+ ba'c thi` hoa(.c ra'n ma` chi.u, hoa(.c mua mo^.t
no^`i co+m ddie^.n kha kha' giu+~ ddu+o+.c co+m la^u. Sa'ng da^.y bo'c
mo^.t na^'m co+m, va('t no' ro^`i a(n cu`ng muo^'i me`, muo^'i dda^.u, ke`m
nu+o+'c va` tra'i ca^y (tra'nh a(n ca'c loa.i co' nhie^`u cha^'t
chua--acid.)
A(n co+m, va('t ra^'t mau ha^'p thu., va` ne^'u ba'c nga^.m va` nhai trong
mie^.ng ca`ng la^u ca`ng ha^'p thu. nhie^`u. Cha^'t carbohydrate ha^'p thu.
qua mie^.ng ddu+o+.c.
No'i ve^` da. da`y:
Co' le~ vi` ba'c bi. nho'i trong da. da`y ma` ho?i ca^u na`y. Mo^.t li' do
la` thu+'c khuya! Ne^'u ba'c ngu? so+'m va` da^.y so+'m thi` i't khi na`o
bi. chuye^.n na`y. Nu+~a la` ca(ng tha(?ng. Ba'c ma` ca(ng tha(?ng nhie^`u
thi` mau loe't ca'i da. da`y la('m. Cha^'t acid trong ddo' ddu? dde^?
nu+o+'ng mo^.t mie^'ng sa('t mo?ng, ne^'u no' tu+. <nu+o+'ng> no' thi`
lu?ng la` chuye^.n thu+o+`ng.
Ne^n ngu? tru+o+'c 12 g dde^m thi` thu+o+`ng kho^ng he^` gi`. Ho^`i to^i
co`n la`m sinh vie^n thi` 11g ngu? va` 5g thu+'c. Ra^'t khoe? va` ho.c
ha`nh vui va` de^~ tha^'m ho+n.
Thu+'c a(n cu?a ngu+o+`i La`o la'ng gie^`ng ta ra^'t to^'t cho da. da`y,
ho. a(n nhie^`u ne^'p. Ne^'p, co' du`ng trong ca'c loa.i xo^i, tra'ng da.
da`y va` ra^'t to^'t ne^'u ba'c bi. ddau.
Linh Tinh:
Ddu+`ng que^n sa'ng thu+'c gia^'c ddi ra hi't mo^.t ho+i tha^.t sa^u, va`o
dda^`y pho^?i ro^`i tu+` tu+` tho+? ra. La`m va`i la^`n se~ co' mo^.t
buo^?i sa'ng vui va` tu+o+i, kho^ng me^.t va` bu+.c.
Cu~ng kho^ng ke'm quan tro.ng la` ddo^i ma('t ba'c ne^n tie^'p nha^n
nhie^`u a'nh sa'ng tu+. nhie^n (ma(.t tro+`i) khi thu+'c gia^'c. ddi ra
ngoa`i la` to^'t nha^'t. Ddu+`ng o+? trong to^'i hay a^m u la^u sau khi
thu+'c. Ddie^`u na`y co' a?nh hu+o+?ng ta^m sinh ly' va`o ca?m gia'c
khoe?/me^.t cu?a ba'c.
Chu'c ba'c khoe?
Toa`n
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From: Le Minh Trung <trung@ait.ac.th>
To: Multiple recipients of list <vnsa-l@csd.uwm.edu>
Subject: Stomach
Date: Tuesday, 25 March 1997 9:57 PM
Hi friends,
I have a stupid question: buo^?i sa'ng ngu? da^.y, bu.ng ddang ddo'i,
lu+o+`i na^'u a(n, nga.i dde^'n cafeteria, trong nha` kho^ng co`n bia
va` nu+o+'c, dda`nh pha?i uo^'ng co^ca thi` co' a?nh hu+o+?ng gi` to+'i
stomach kho^ng?
Note: nu+o+'c vo`i trong nha` kho^ng the^? uo^'ng ddu+o+.c, ngay ca? sau
khi ddun so^i, vi` nu+o+'c o+? Thai thuo^.c loa.i ra^'t cu+'ng. (hard
water)
--
Le Minh Trung
Asian Institute of Technology, STAR Program
P.O. Box 4 KlongLuang, Pathumthani 12120, Thailand
Internet: http://www.rsl.ait.ac.th/~trung/
Tel. (662) 524 5585 Fax. (662) 524 6147
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Topic No. 2
Date: Wed, 26 Mar 1997 16:27:02 GMT
From: huy.duong@ctsu.ox.ac.uk
To: vnsa-l@csd.uwm.edu
Subject: Specificity
Message-ID: <97032616270202@a2.ctsu.ox.ac.uk>
Cha`o ba'c Tie^'n,
Va^.y thi` ba'c ne^n ca^?n tha^.n ho+n.
Ba'c no'i ve^`
> > nhu+~ng ngu+o+`i ddu+o+`ng ddu+o+`ng mang quo^'c
> > ti.ch VN, mo+? mie^.ng va^~n nha^.n thuo^.c da^n to^.c VN, va(n ho'a
> > VN, no'i nhu+ ro^`ng bay phu+o+.ng mu'a ve^` kie^'n thie^'t, xa^y
> > du+.ng VN etc.
co' ra^'t nhie^`u ngu+o+`i nhu+ va^.y, ke^? ca? ngu+o+`i ty. na.n.
No'i ve^` nhu+~ng ngu+o+`i -do' nhu+
> > chi? toa`n ngo^`i o+? nu+o+'c ngoa`i kie^'n
> > thie^'t va` xa^y du+.ng VN ba(`ng mo^`m tho^i\. Tuy nhie^n cu~ng
> > pha?i ca?m o+n ho. vi` xa^y ba(`ng mo^`m cu~ng la` xa^y, co' co`n
> > ho+n kho^ng va` ho. cho ra(`ng o+? ho. o+? nu+o+'c ngoa`i thi` se~
> > hu+~u i'ch cho VN ho+n ho+n la` ho. o+? VN\.
la` co' ga^y -du.ng cha.m a^?u. Ba'c kho^ng ne^n no'i va^.y. I't nha^'t
ba'c cu~ng pha?i no'i "co' nhu+~ng ngu+o+`i", thay vi` "nhu+~ng ngu+o+`i".
To^'t ho+n ba'c ne^n no'i ro~ la` ba'c -dang no'i ve^` nhu+~ng DHS
xin ty. na.n. Va` ba'c kho^ng the^? -du.ng cha.m a^?u ro^`i no'i ngang
la` to^i hie^?u gi` la` quye^`n cua? to^i.
> > co`n du ho.c sinh ddo+`i cha cho
> > chi' ddo+`i con hu+o+?ng lo^.c cu?a CHXHCN VN thi` la.i ddu+o+.c
> > ty. na.n\.
Tru+o+`ng ho+.p DHS/NCS xin va` -du+o+.c ty. na.n kho^ng pho^? bie^'n -du?
(eg >50%) -de^? ba'c no'i `du ho.c sinh'. Ba'c ne^n no'i `co' DHS'. I't
nha^'t -die^`u na`y tra'nh ga^y su+. tha<'c ma<'c cua? ba'c Ai Viet.
Huy
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Topic No. 3
Date: Wed, 26 Mar 1997 16:49:58 GMT
From: huy.duong@ctsu.ox.ac.uk
To: vnsa-l@csd.uwm.edu
Subject: Solar power
Message-ID: <97032616495820@a2.ctsu.ox.ac.uk>
Tra.m pha't ddie^.n na(ng lu+o+.ng ma(.t tro+`i dda~ ddu+o+.c ti?nh BDd
xa^y du+.ng ta.i ba'n dda?o ba~i Xe^'p, thuo^.c phu+o+`ng Quang Trung - TP
Quy Nhon. To^?ng co^ng sua^'t cu?a tra.m la` 1.200W cung ca^'p nguo^`n
^^^^^
This seems too small, can you check, anh Son?
ddie^.n cho khu da^n cu+ ta.i dda^y. Kinh phi' xa^y du+.ng co^ng tri`nh
la` 120 trie^.u ddo^`ng. Vie^.t Hie^`n
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Topic No. 4
Date: Wed, 26 Mar 1997 16:53:56 +0000 (GMT)
From: My Huyen Nguyen <M.H.Nguyen-iq1b7756@lmu.ac.uk>
To: Multiple recipients of list <vnsa-l@csd.uwm.edu>
Subject: Chu*~ BA'C trong tie^'ng Viet.
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.3.95.970326164132.7018D-100000@jess>
Hi ca'c "Ba'c" ,
Ba'c la` sao dzi. , tui nghe la. tai qua'
Xin lo^~i cho ca^u ho?i ho*i ngo*' nga^?n cu?a tui hi?
Tui kho^ng hie^?u ta.i sao ma^'y anh chi. la.i du`ng chu*~ Ba'c trong
ca'ch xu*ng ho^ vo*'i nhau . Theo my feeling for vietnamese language ,
ngu*o*`i ta du`ng BA'C khi nguo*`i ta gia^.n ho*`n vo*'i nhau va` muo^'n
no'i la^?y hay la` nguo*`i tre? no'i chuye^.n vo*'i ngu*o*`i gia` va`
muo^'n express su*. to^n ki'nh cu?a mi`nh , pha?i kho^ng ?
Cha(?ng ha.n:
Nha` ca'c Ba'c lu'c na`o cu~ng tie^u bie^?u ca? ;-)
hay
Ba'c co' the^? gia?I thi'ch cho con ...
Tui tha^'y ma^'y anh chi. ta^m dda^`u i' ho*.p trong vie^.c ba`n tha?o 1
va^'n dde^` , thi` chuzy^.n du`ng tu*` BA'C co' thi'ch ho*.p o*? dda^y
kho^ng nhi?
Xin lo^~i ne^'u tui ca?m nha^.n sai , va` xin ca'c BA'C tha thu*' a. ;-)
Cheers
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Topic No. 5
Date: Wed, 26 Mar 1997 17:56:44 +0100 (MET)
From: Do Dinh Nghia <don@iem.pw.edu.pl>
To: vnsa-l@csd.uwm.edu
Subject: wavelets
Message-ID: <199703261656.RAA22408@ohm.iem.pw.edu.pl>
Cha`o ca'c ba.n!
To^i co' mo^t. va^n' dde^` muo^n' ddu*o*c. ca'c ban. giu'p ddo*~.
DDo' la` so-called "wavelets & wavelet transformation"
To^i dda~ co' trong tay cuo^n' "Approximation Theory,Wavelets & Applications"
nhu*ng qua? tha^t. to^i ddo.c kho' qu'a vi vo^n' di~ chi? la` nha` ky~ thua^t.
ma` NATO ANSI Series do ca'c nha` toa'n vie^'t , kha' la` triu` tu*o*ng.(ddo^i'
vo*i' to^i).
Bie^n' ddo^i? Fourier thi` chung' to^i , nhu*ng~ nha` ky~ thua^t. dda~ quen
va` dda~ co' thua^t. toan' bie^n' ddo^i? Fourier nhanh (FFT) , tha^m. tri' trongMATLAB co' le^nh. FFT va` IFFT(inverce) . Ba?n cha^t' cua? bie^n' ddo^i? Fourierla`xap xi? hoa'(approximation) mo^t. ti'n hie^u. (trong ky~ thua^t.) hay mo^t. ham`ba(ng` nhu*ng~ thanh` pha^`n tua^n` hoan` (harmonic components) co' ca'c ta^`n so^' kha'c nhau.The^' co`n WT thi` approximate ti'n hie^u. ra sao?
Gia? su*? ta co' mo^t. chuo^i~ so^' X=[x1 x2 ....xn]T thi` bie^n' ddo^i? WT
cua? X o* scale s nhu* the^s nao`? Co' cha(ng mo^t. thua^t. toan' bie^n' ddo^i?
nhanh ?
Ra^t' mong nha^.n ddu*o*c. su*. giu'p ddo*~ cua? cac' ban. Chao`!
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Topic No. 6
Date: Wed, 26 Mar 1997 18:08:15 +0100 (MET)
From: Tran Minh Tien <tran@idefix.mpipks-dresden.mpg.de>
To: vnsa-l@csd.uwm.edu
Subject: Re: Specificity
Message-ID: <9703261708.AA29507@idefix.mpipks-dresden.mpg.de>
>
> Cha`o ba'c Tie^'n,
>
> Va^.y thi` ba'c ne^n ca^?n tha^.n ho+n.
Ca'm o+n ba'c co' lo+`i khuye^n\. Nhu+ng tu+` xu+a dde^'n nay
chu+a ai co' the^? be? ca^u chu+~ cu?a to^i ddu+o+.c
(ta^'t nhie^n tru+` ho^`i to^i co`n ho.c pho^? tho^ng va`
sai chi'nh ta?). Be? chu+~ vo+'i to^i thi` e ra(`ng ba'c co`n
theo chu+a ki.p dda^u\.
>
> Ba'c no'i ve^`
>
> > > nhu+~ng ngu+o+`i ddu+o+`ng ddu+o+`ng mang quo^'c
> > > ti.ch VN, mo+? mie^.ng va^~n nha^.n thuo^.c da^n to^.c VN, va(n ho'a
> > > VN, no'i nhu+ ro^`ng bay phu+o+.ng mu'a ve^` kie^'n thie^'t, xa^y
> > > du+.ng VN etc.
>
> co' ra^'t nhie^`u ngu+o+`i nhu+ va^.y, ke^? ca? ngu+o+`i ty. na.n.
> No'i ve^` nhu+~ng ngu+o+`i -do' nhu+
Ngu+o+`i ddo' co' "no'i nhu+ ro^`ng bay phu+o+.ng mu'a ve^` kie^'n thie^'t
xa^y du+.ng VN etc." kho^ng ? Ne^'u ngu+o+`i ddo' ho^.i tu. dda^`y ddu?
tie^u chua^?n na`y thi` mo+'i co' the^? ddu+a va`o loa.i ngu+o+`i
ma` to^i no'i\. Co`n ne^'u kho^ng thi` hie^?n nhie^n na(`m ngoa`i
pha.m tru` ca^u no'i cu?a to^i\.
Ma` ba'c hie^?u "ro^`ng bay phu+o+.ng mu'a" nhu+ the^' na`o ?
> > > chi? toa`n ngo^`i o+? nu+o+'c ngoa`i kie^'n
> > > thie^'t va` xa^y du+.ng VN ba(`ng mo^`m tho^i\. Tuy nhie^n cu~ng
> > > pha?i ca?m o+n ho. vi` xa^y ba(`ng mo^`m cu~ng la` xa^y, co' co`n
> > > ho+n kho^ng va` ho. cho ra(`ng o+? ho. o+? nu+o+'c ngoa`i thi` se~
> > > hu+~u i'ch cho VN ho+n ho+n la` ho. o+? VN\.
>
> la` co' ga^y -du.ng cha.m a^?u. Ba'c kho^ng ne^n no'i va^.y. I't nha^'t
> ba'c cu~ng pha?i no'i "co' nhu+~ng ngu+o+`i", thay vi` "nhu+~ng ngu+o+`i".
To^i dda~ gio+'i ha.n pha.m tru` ba(`ng ca'c bo^? ngu+~ tie^'p theo
sau thi` vie^.c gi` to^i pha?i gio+'i ha.n ba(`ng chu+~ "co'".
Ai co' ta^.t gia^.t mi`nh thi` ddo' la` chuye^.n cu?a ngu+o+`i ta\.
Ngoa`i ra ca^`n pha?i no'i "nhu+~ng" kho^ng co' nghi~a la` ta^'t
ca?\. "Nhu+~ng quye^?n sa'ch, vie^'t nhu+ ro^`ng bay phu+o+.ng
mu'a ve^` ti`nh ye^u" thi` kho^ng co' nghi~a la` ta^'t ca? nhu+~ng
quye^?n sa'ch vie^'t ve^` ti`nh ye^u\.
> To^'t ho+n ba'c ne^n no'i ro~ la` ba'c -dang no'i ve^` nhu+~ng DHS
> xin ty. na.n. Va` ba'c kho^ng the^? -du.ng cha.m a^?u ro^`i no'i ngang
> la` to^i hie^?u gi` la` quye^`n cua? to^i.
To^i chi? co' the^? take care ca'i gi` to^i vie^'t\. Co`n ngu+o+`i ddo.c
kho^ng co' ddu? kie^'n thu+'c Vie^.t va(n dde^? hie^?u thi` ddo' kho^ng
pha?i la` vie^.c cu?a to^i\. Ngu+o+`i ta hie^?u the^' na`o cu~ng na(`m ngoa`i
pha.m vi kie^?m soa't cu?a to^i\. Nhu+ng ta^'t ca? ca'c chu+~ ma` to^i
du`ng dde^`u co' the^? tra trong ca'c tu+. ddie^?n tie^'ng Vie^.t.
>
> > > co`n du ho.c sinh ddo+`i cha cho
> > > chi' ddo+`i con hu+o+?ng lo^.c cu?a CHXHCN VN thi` la.i ddu+o+.c
> > > ty. na.n\.
>
> Tru+o+`ng ho+.p DHS/NCS xin va` -du+o+.c ty. na.n kho^ng pho^? bie^'n -du?
> (eg >50%) -de^? ba'c no'i `du ho.c sinh'. Ba'c ne^n no'i `co' DHS'. I't
To^i kho^ng du`ng so^' nhie^`u thi` vie^.c gi` to^i pha?i du`ng "co'".
"Co`n quye^?n sa'ch ba'n ddu+o+.c 10$ thi` la.i vu+'t ddi" kho^ng co'
nghi~a la` ta^'t ca? ca'c quye^?n sa'ch ba'n ddu+o+.c 10$. Khi na`o
to^i vie^'t "ta^'t ca? DHS ..." thi` may ra mo+'i co' the^? be?
ddu+o+.c to^i tho^i\.
Cheers, Tien.
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Topic No. 7
Date: Wed, 26 Mar 1997 19:01:51 +0100 (MET)
From: Tran Minh Tien <tran@idefix.mpipks-dresden.mpg.de>
To: vnsa-l@csd.uwm.edu
Subject: Re: Ti'nh ca'ch... (3)
Message-ID: <9703261801.AA25249@idefix.mpipks-dresden.mpg.de>
> Na`o a? "Da bo`", na`ng "ma('m to^m", con "cu+'t ngu+.a"... ( dda.i tu+`
> la` pha^n bie^.t tu+`ng anh, chu+' kho^ng pha?i pha^n bie^.t ca'c
> "nu+o+`ng" dda^u). To^i nghe ro^`i he^'t muo^'n nhi`n. Sau ddo' to^i "xoa'y"
> ddu+o+.c cu?a o^ng gia` chu+~ ma`u thie^n thanh dde^? ta? "nu+o+`ng" cu?a
> mi`nh thi` tha^'y a(n kha'ch la('m. Te' ra ma`u thie^n thanh la` xanh da
> tro+`i la^'y o+? tie^'ng Ta`u.
> Xin ke^? the^m xanh lu.c, den huye^`n, o^, ti'a, ... xoa'y cu?a Ta`u.
> Be, ghi,... xo'ay cu?a Ta^y. Dda so^' ma`u tie^'ng vie^.t la` la^'y be'ng
> mo^.t su+. cu. the^? dde^? go.i. Xanh ca^y, dden ma`u tro, ta`n thuo^'c la',
> no`ng su'ng,... dde^`u thuo^.c loa.i na`y.
Cha`o ca'c ba'c,
Tie^'ng Anh cu~ng va^.y tho^i\. Red, white, black, blue, green ...
cu~ng xoa'y cu?a nu+o+'c ngoa`i\. Nhu+ red thi` xoa'y tu+` rot
cu?a DDu+'c, DDu+'c xoa'y tu+` ruber cu?a Latin, Latin thi`
ddi cho^m cu?a Hy la.p\. Vu+`a tra Webster xong mo+'i bie^'t
yellow co' go^'c ga'c tu+` Sanskrit.
Chi? co' ddie^`u la. la` ca'c tu+` go^'c ngoa.i thi` co'
lie^n quan gi` dde^'n ti'nh ca'ch da^n to^.c (cu+' gia?
du. nhu+ la` co' ti'nh ca'ch)?
Ca'ch xu+ng ho^ thi` Ta`u co`n pha^n chia kinh ngu+o+`i
ho+n\. Chi. em da^u thi` go.i la` "du, ly'". Em trai,
em ga'i cu~ng kha'c nhau (dde^., muo^.i) ... To^i co`n
ngo+` co^, di`, chu', ba'c ... la` ho.c tu+` Ta`u\.
Cheers, Tien.
------------------------------
Topic No. 8
Date: Wed, 26 Mar 1997 18:17:53 GMT
From: huy.duong@ctsu.ox.ac.uk
To: vnsa-l@csd.uwm.edu
Subject: Law of the Seas
Message-ID: <97032618175382@a2.ctsu.ox.ac.uk>
Cha`o ba'c La^m,
China disputes the demarcation of the Gulf of Tonkin.
Which principle does it want used? Distance from the
mainland mass? Distance from the islands, eg, Chinese Hainan
and Vietnamese Nightingale (Bach Long Vi)? None of those principle
would give China more sea. In fact, both would give China
less.
What China wants is a principle based on distance from
China's islands and Vietnam's mainland.
As for China's claim of the seas around some of the Paracels and Spratleys,
This is like Vietnam using Phu Quoc to claim all the sea off
the entire Cambodian coast, or Britain using the Channel islands to
claim the all the sea off the entire North West French coast, or
France using Corsica to claim the sea off the entire North West
Italian coast, or India using the Adaman & Nicobar islands to claim
the seas off the Burmese and Western Thai coasts, Japan using the Ryukus
to claim the seas off the Chinese and Taiwanese coasts. In fact, since the
the islands from which China makes the claims have only been seized by
force recently by China, it is worse than the above and more like Russia
using the Kuriles to claim the sea off the Japanese coast.
Huy
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Topic No. 9
Date: Sun, 23 Feb 1997 07:23:54 -0800
From: Vo Van Phuong <phuongvv@dk-online.dk>
To: vnsa-l@csd.uwm.edu
Subject: Re: Specificity
Message-ID: <3310610A.76DA@dk-online.dk>
Cha\o ba'c Tie^'n,
Tran Minh Tien wrote:
>
> >
> > Cha`o ba'c Tie^'n,
> >
> > Va^.y thi` ba'c ne^n ca^?n tha^.n ho+n.
>
> Ca'm o+n ba'c co' lo+`i khuye^n\. Nhu+ng tu+` xu+a dde^'n nay
> chu+a ai co' the^? be? ca^u chu+~ cu?a to^i ddu+o+.c
> (ta^'t nhie^n tru+` ho^`i to^i co`n ho.c pho^? tho^ng va`
> sai chi'nh ta?). Be? chu+~ vo+'i to^i thi` e ra(`ng ba'c co`n
> theo chu+a ki.p dda^u\.
Kha^m phu.c, kha^m phu.c...!
> Ngu+o+`i ddo' co' "no'i nhu+ ro^`ng bay phu+o+.ng mu'a ve^` kie^'n thie^'t
> xa^y du+.ng VN etc." kho^ng ? Ne^'u ngu+o+`i ddo' ho^.i tu. dda^`y ddu?
> tie^u chua^?n na`y thi` mo+'i co' the^? ddu+a va`o loa.i ngu+o+`i
> ma` to^i no'i\. Co`n ne^'u kho^ng thi` hie^?n nhie^n na(`m ngoa`i
> pha.m tru` ca^u no'i cu?a to^i\.
> Ma` ba'c hie^?u "ro^`ng bay phu+o+.ng mu'a" nhu+ the^' na`o ?
The^' thi\ ba'c hie^?u nhu+ the^' na\o ? khi ba'c vie^'t " NO'I nhu+
ro^\ng bay phu+o+.ng mu'a" To^i se? co^' ga<'ng dde^? ho.c ho?i the^m
mong ba'c gia?i thi'ch.
To^i xin ba'c ddo.c la.i ~ ddoa.n va<n cu?a ba'c o+? du+o+'i dda^y the^m
1 la^\n nu+?a, va\ ne^'u ba'c ca?m tha^'y ca^\n y' kie^'n xa^y du+.ng
thi\
to^i se~ xin ha^\u ba'c.
1):
> To^i dda~ gio+'i ha.n pha.m tru` ba(`ng ca'c bo^? ngu+~ tie^'p theo
> sau thi` vie^.c gi` to^i pha?i gio+'i ha.n ba(`ng chu+~ "co'".
> Ai co' ta^.t gia^.t mi`nh thi` ddo' la` chuye^.n cu?a ngu+o+`i ta\.
> Ngoa`i ra ca^`n pha?i no'i "nhu+~ng" kho^ng co' nghi~a la` ta^'t
> ca?\. "Nhu+~ng quye^?n sa'ch, vie^'t nhu+ ro^`ng bay phu+o+.ng
> mu'a ve^` ti`nh ye^u" thi` kho^ng co' nghi~a la` ta^'t ca? nhu+~ng
> quye^?n sa'ch vie^'t ve^` ti`nh ye^u\.
2):
> To^i chi? co' the^? take care ca'i gi` to^i vie^'t\. Co`n ngu+o+`i ddo.c
> kho^ng co' ddu? kie^'n thu+'c Vie^.t va(n dde^? hie^?u thi` ddo' kho^ng
> pha?i la` vie^.c cu?a to^i\. Ngu+o+`i ta hie^?u the^' na`o cu~ng na(`m ngoa`i
> pha.m vi kie^?m soa't cu?a to^i\. Nhu+ng ta^'t ca? ca'c chu+~ ma` to^i
> du`ng dde^`u co' the^? tra trong ca'c tu+. ddie^?n tie^'ng Vie^.t.
PS: To^i xin thu+a vo+'i ba'c la\ kinh nghie^.m ba?n tha^n da.y cho to^i
1 ddie^\u: communication is useful if and only if you got
a common protocol.
Cheers
VVP
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Topic No. 10
Date: Wed, 26 Mar 1997 13:08:54 -0800 (PST)
From: Dam Son <son@fermi.phys.washington.edu>
To: vnsa-l@csd.uwm.edu
Subject: Re: wavelets
Message-ID: <Pine.SGI.3.91.970326125520.9332B-100000@fermi.phys.washington.edu>
On Wed, 26 Mar 1997, Do Dinh Nghia wrote:
> To^i co' mo^t. va^n' dde^` muo^n' ddu*o*c. ca'c ban. giu'p ddo*~.
> DDo' la` so-called "wavelets & wavelet transformation"
> To^i dda~ co' trong tay cuo^n' "Approximation Theory,Wavelets & Applications"
> nhu*ng qua? tha^t. to^i ddo.c kho' qu'a vi vo^n' di~ chi? la` nha` ky~ thua^t.
> ma` NATO ANSI Series do ca'c nha` toa'n vie^'t , kha' la` triu` tu*o*ng.(ddo^i'
> vo*i' to^i).
Ba.n co' the^? thu+? ddo.c "Numerical Recipes on C", ta'c gia? W.Press et
al., 2nd Ed., Cambridge University Press 1992, co' tre^n Net o+? ddi.a
chi? http://cfatab.harvard.edu/nr/bookc.html, section 13.10, theo to^i no'
co' ve? de^~ hie^?u, kho^ng dde^'n no^~i nhu+ bo.n hu? toa'n vie^'t
(version tre^n Net bi. thie^'u 2 figures nhu+ng ba.n cha('c co' the^? live
without them). Co' ca? ca'c routine sa(~n ba(`ng C, va` co' no'i ve^`
u+'ng du.ng dde^? ne'n a?nh (image compression).
So+n.
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Topic No. 11
Date: Wed, 26 Mar 1997 15:50:54 -0800 (PST)
From: Dam Son <son@fermi.phys.washington.edu>
To: vnsa-l@csd.uwm.edu
Subject: [FROM ADMIN] Request for anh Tran Minh Tien, and moderation of, refugee threads
Message-ID: <Pine.SGI.3.91.970326154956.9332I-100000@fermi.phys.washington.edu>
FROM ADMIN: Request for anh Tran Minh Tien, and moderation of threads on
Vietnamese refugees and Vietnamese (ex-)DHS taking refugee.
Dear anh Tran Minh Tien and other VNSA netters,
Recently, anh Tran Minh Tien posted an article concerning the Vietnamese
refugees and Vietnamese (ex-)DHS who have become refugees, which have
induced a large numbers of postings on the same topic. The admins consider
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Topic No. 12
Date: Thu, 27 Mar 1997 10:50:41 -0800
From: Tuan Pham <tuan.pham@unsw.edu.au>
To: vnsa-l <vnsa-l@csd.uwm.edu>
Subject: Re: Ti'nh ca'ch... (3)
Message-ID: <333AC181.67B9@unsw.edu.au>
Phung Phuong Nam <ppn@iist.unu.edu> wrote
>cha`o ca'c ba'c,
>xin ho?i ca'c ba'c chi' khi' ngu+o+`i vie^.t ta nhu+ the^' na`o.
>trong li.ch su+? cho^'ng xa^m lu+o+.c va` du+.ng nu+o+'c,... chu'ng ta
>chi? co' nhu+~ng ngu+o+`i dde`n sa'ch ro^`i thi cu+? ra la`m quan, xong
>ro^`i tho^i, cha(?ng dde^? la.i cho con cha'u 1 chi'nh sa'ch, sa'ch
>lu+o+.c ,...
>trong khi ddo' trung quo^'c co' ha`n, kho^?ng, dda.o, la~o,...
>cha^u a^u co' ca'c ma'c, anghen, pho+ba'ch, ...
>the^' xin ho?i ca'c ba'c chi' khi' co' hay kho^ng ???
>
Hello
No need to do too much navel gazing on this question, IMO.
Great thinkers, like truffles, sprout spontaneously and
statistically when conditions are right. The right conditions
are: a large pool of idle, educated people, interacting
intellectually. A comfortable IDLENESS is essential -
it's hard to produce great universal thoughts when one has to
think about where the next meal comes from.
Ancient Greece had the right conditions because they had
a slave system which freed up the citizens, and they valued
education, so they produced Plato, Socrates, Aristotle.
Revolutionary America had similar conditions, hence Jefferson,
Franklin. Renaissance-Enlightenment Europe had a hereditary
aristocracy, an emerging middle class (getting rich from trade
colonialism)and well educated churchmen supported by the Church,
and almost all great men came from one of these three groups.
India had its caste system which produced Buddha.
China in the Xua^n Thu period probably had a hereditory
aristocracy, as medieval Europe did, hence its great sages:
Kho^?ng, La~o, Ma(.c etc. After the Chinese adopted the
meritocratic (exam) system, conditions became more egalitarian
and thus less favourable, and it produced fewer great thinkers.
Vietnam has never had favourable conditions - almost as soon as it
became independent, it adopted the Chinese meritocratic system.
There was no slavery, no hereditory aristocracy (apart from
the royal family), no idle class. There were a few notable
buddhist thinkers from the royal families of Ly' and Tra^`n,
before the exam system was firmly locked in.
Now that VN is the 12th most populous country on Earth and
increasing numbers of Viets are getting educated, I expect
VN will produce world class thinkers very soon - as soon as
a few of us become idle :)))
Cheers
Tuan Pham
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Topic No. 13
Date: Wed, 26 Mar 1997 19:20:20 -0500 (EST)
From: Aiviet Nguyen <aiviet@cat.syr.edu>
To: vnsa-l@csd.uwm.edu
Subject: Re: TWO questions to experts ...
Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.91.970326191204.12670A-100000@lynx.cat.syr.edu>
Sure, there are quite a lot in Fortran and in C. You can also write one
by yourself if no additional requirements are needed.
The standard library package of CERN or CORNELL has very good error control
and very stable.
The program does not know that the equation has solution or not. So if
you specify a smalll error, the algorithm will not be convergent and will
loop forever. If you specify a large enough error, it will output some
solution depending on the starting point.
Cheers
Aiviet
PS: Are you interested in the Algorithm they use in those packages?
On Wed, 26 Mar 1997, Sonnet Nguyen wrote:
> Hi all,
> My questions are following:
>
> 1)IS THERE A GOOD PROGRAMME WHICH CAN SOLVE (numerically) THE SCHRODINGER
> EQUATION WITH (ARBITRARY) BOUNDARY-INITIAL CONDITIONS?
>
> 2)Does exist a program which can solve (numerically) a large class
> of partial differential equations 2-nd orders (ellitic, parabolic,
> hyperbolic) with arbitrary boundary conditions?
>
> BTW.
> How could do this program when a equation with fixed boundary conditions
> has no solution?
>
>
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Topic No. 14
Date: Wed, 26 Mar 1997 19:36:41 -0500 (EST)
From: Aiviet Nguyen <aiviet@cat.syr.edu>
To: vnsa-l@csd.uwm.edu
Subject: Re: Ti'nh ca'ch... (3)
Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.91.970326193349.12670C-100000@lynx.cat.syr.edu>
Nhu+ng Ta`u chi? co' Ngo^. vo+'i Ni. tho^i. Co`n ta thi` co' ca? ta^'n chu+~.
Kho^ng the^? no'i tie^'ng Anh la` xoa'y cu?a Ddu+'c ddu+o+.c vi` chi'nh
da^n A(nglo-Saxon cu~ng la` gio`ng Nha^.t nhi~ man tu+` Ddan ma.ch qua.
Cheers
NAV
On Wed, 26 Mar 1997, Tran Minh Tien wrote:
>
> > Na`o a? "Da bo`", na`ng "ma('m to^m", con "cu+'t ngu+.a"... ( dda.i tu+`
> > la` pha^n bie^.t tu+`ng anh, chu+' kho^ng pha?i pha^n bie^.t ca'c
> > "nu+o+`ng" dda^u). To^i nghe ro^`i he^'t muo^'n nhi`n. Sau ddo' to^i "xoa'y"
> > ddu+o+.c cu?a o^ng gia` chu+~ ma`u thie^n thanh dde^? ta? "nu+o+`ng" cu?a
> > mi`nh thi` tha^'y a(n kha'ch la('m. Te' ra ma`u thie^n thanh la` xanh da
> > tro+`i la^'y o+? tie^'ng Ta`u.
> > Xin ke^? the^m xanh lu.c, den huye^`n, o^, ti'a, ... xoa'y cu?a Ta`u.
> > Be, ghi,... xo'ay cu?a Ta^y. Dda so^' ma`u tie^'ng vie^.t la` la^'y be'ng
> > mo^.t su+. cu. the^? dde^? go.i. Xanh ca^y, dden ma`u tro, ta`n thuo^'c la',
> > no`ng su'ng,... dde^`u thuo^.c loa.i na`y.
>
> Cha`o ca'c ba'c,
>
> Tie^'ng Anh cu~ng va^.y tho^i\. Red, white, black, blue, green ...
> cu~ng xoa'y cu?a nu+o+'c ngoa`i\. Nhu+ red thi` xoa'y tu+` rot
> cu?a DDu+'c, DDu+'c xoa'y tu+` ruber cu?a Latin, Latin thi`
> ddi cho^m cu?a Hy la.p\. Vu+`a tra Webster xong mo+'i bie^'t
> yellow co' go^'c ga'c tu+` Sanskrit.
>
> Chi? co' ddie^`u la. la` ca'c tu+` go^'c ngoa.i thi` co'
> lie^n quan gi` dde^'n ti'nh ca'ch da^n to^.c (cu+' gia?
> du. nhu+ la` co' ti'nh ca'ch)?
>
> Ca'ch xu+ng ho^ thi` Ta`u co`n pha^n chia kinh ngu+o+`i
> ho+n\. Chi. em da^u thi` go.i la` "du, ly'". Em trai,
> em ga'i cu~ng kha'c nhau (dde^., muo^.i) ... To^i co`n
> ngo+` co^, di`, chu', ba'c ... la` ho.c tu+` Ta`u\.
>
> Cheers, Tien.
>
>
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Topic No. 15
Date: Wed, 26 Mar 1997 18:39:57 -0600
From: ianb@sun670.telecom.tandem.com (Ian Bui)
To: vnsa-l@csd.uwm.edu
Subject: The Applicant
Message-ID: <9703270039.AA03310@zoo.tpmsdev>
Kho^ng khi' la`ng ta da.o na`y ho*i co' ve? ca<ng tha<?ng.
Tho^i, tui co' cai' na`y cho ba` con ddo.c xa? ho*i dda^y#.
Ca'c ba'c nao` ddang co' y' ddi.nh xin job dde^? ddi ty. na.n
nu*o*'c ngoai` co' the^? mu*o*.n la' thu* nay` la`m ma^~u
cu~ng ddu*o*.c. Ddu*`ng lo copyright la`m chi cho ma^'t co^ng.
A`, ba'c AiViet la.i ru? ddi a<n oyster nu*~a kia kia`. Ke.t
no^~i mua` na`y la` mua` crawfish co*#. Co' ba'c na`o dda~
tu*`ng thu*? qua mo'n ddo^.c ddo' chu*a va^.y? Ha^'p da^~n
kho^ng thua gi` oyster dda^u! Phen nay` ba'c Ca ghe' Texas
thie^.t la` ddu'ng mua` he^'t su*'c ddo' nghen :)))
Mi`nh dzo^ cai' ddi!
Ian
===========================================================
(A form letter of acceptance, sort of...)
Dear Mr. Kennelly:
Thank you for your letter of April 17. After careful
consideration I regret to inform you that I am unable
to accept your refusal to offer me employment with your
firm. This year I have been particularly fortunate in
receiving an unusually large number of rejection letters.
With such a varied and promising field of candidates it
is impossible for me to accept all refusals.
Despite your company's outstanding qualifications and
previous experience in rejecting applicants, I find that
your rejection does not meet with my needs at this time.
Therefore, I will initiate employment with your firm
immediately following graduation. I look forward to
seeing you then.
Best of luck in rejecting future candidates.
Sincerely,
Walter Grayson
==========================================================
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Topic No. 16
Date: Thu, 27 Mar 1997 11:54:28 +1000
From: Tuan V Nguyen <t.nguyen@garvan.unsw.edu.au>
To: vnsa-l@csd.uwm.edu
Subject: Re: The Applicant
Message-ID: <1.5.4.16.19970327115507.199f4902@gimr.garvan.unsw.edu.au>
Hello,
>A`, ba'c AiViet la.i ru? ddi a<n oyster nu*~a kia kia`. Ke.t
>no^~i mua` na`y la` mua` crawfish co*#. Co' ba'c na`o dda~
>tu*`ng thu*? qua mo'n ddo^.c ddo' chu*a va^.y? Ha^'p da^~n
>kho^ng thua gi` oyster dda^u! Phen nay` ba'c Ca ghe' Texas
>thie^.t la` ddu'ng mua` he^'t su*'c ddo' nghen :)))
To^i thi` chu+a bie^'t crawfish la` gi` nhu+ng dda~
tu+`ng a(n qua crayfish (hay gi` gi` ddo') vo+'i ddo^`ng
nghie^.p Nha^.t Ba?n. Ho. cu~ng la`m ca' nhu'ng da^'m vo+'i
rau co? tu+ng bu+`ng la('m, nhu+ng nu+o+'c cha^'m cu?a ho.
thi` thua ma^'m ne^m cu?a mi`nh xa ... va` ho. co`n thua
mi`nh nu+~a la` kho^ng co' ba'nh tra'ng! Nhu+ng a(n
crayfish nhu'ng da^'m va` uo^'ng Sake thi` cu~ng tuye^.t
la('m. To^i co' la^`n ... say o+? Tokyo mo^.t dde^m va` khi
sa'ng ra lecture theatre to^i no'i lo^.n chu+~ weight
tha`nh sway :))
A`! no'i dde^'n Sake thi` to^i la.i nho+' dde^'n ba'c
Ca co' cho to^i mo^.t chai ho^`i na(m ngoa'i . Ngon la('m
ba'c Ca a`, to^i tin cha('c la` ba'c se~ mang cho Ian mo^.t
lo. dde^? thu+o+?ng thu+'c vo+'i crayfish hay crawfish !
To^i muo^'n bay qua ddo' ngay ba^y gio+` dda^y ...
>
>Mi`nh dzo^ cai' ddi!
>
>Ian
dzo^!
Tua^'n
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Topic No. 17
Date: Wed, 26 Mar 1997 20:15:35 -0500 (EST)
From: Dung Nguyen <dungn@CapAccess.org>
To: My Huyen Nguyen <M.H.Nguyen-iq1b7756@lmu.ac.uk>
Subject: Re: Chu*~ BA'C trong tie^'ng Viet.
Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.91-FP.970326200846.19744B-100000@cap1.capaccess.org>
La^`n dda^` mo+'i nghe qua to^i cu~ng tha^'y la. nhu+ng ddi cho+i ho.p
ha`nh vo+'i ba.n be` lu+'a 30s tha^'y ho. go.i mi`nh ba(`ng ba'c tha^'y
cu~ng hay hay ne^n du`ng ma~i quen luo^n. Nay nghi~ la.i thi` tha^'y dda
so^' ba.n be` ngu+o+`i ba('c hay du`ng danh tu+` na`y cho tha^n ma^.t va`
ki'nh tro.ng nhau. Ho^`i co`n be^n nha`, gia ddi`nh to^i co' o^ng
ta`i-xe^' la'i xe cho+? lu? nho'c ddi ho.c. Anh em to^i hay go.i la` ba'c
ta`i vi` o^ng ta lo+'n tuo^?i. Ca'c ba'c chie^'u tre^n la^~n chie^'u
du+'a co' cao kie^'n gi` xin chi? da.y cho ca? la`ng dde^`u bie^'t. To^i
dda^y cu~ng va^~n co`n tha('c ma('c kho^ng bie^'t ngoa`i su+. tha^n ma^.t
ra danh tu+` ba'c co`n tie^u bie^?u cho gi` nu+~a.
Du~ng
On Wed, 26 Mar 1997, My Huyen Nguyen wrote:
>
> Hi ca'c "Ba'c" ,
> Ba'c la` sao dzi. , tui nghe la. tai qua'
> Xin lo^~i cho ca^u ho?i ho*i ngo*' nga^?n cu?a tui hi?
> Tui kho^ng hie^?u ta.i sao ma^'y anh chi. la.i du`ng chu*~ Ba'c trong
> ca'ch xu*ng ho^ vo*'i nhau . Theo my feeling for vietnamese language ,
> ngu*o*`i ta du`ng BA'C khi nguo*`i ta gia^.n ho*`n vo*'i nhau va` muo^'n
> no'i la^?y hay la` nguo*`i tre? no'i chuye^.n vo*'i ngu*o*`i gia` va`
> muo^'n express su*. to^n ki'nh cu?a mi`nh , pha?i kho^ng ?
> Cha(?ng ha.n:
>
> Nha` ca'c Ba'c lu'c na`o cu~ng tie^u bie^?u ca? ;-)
> hay
> Ba'c co' the^? gia?I thi'ch cho con ...
>
> Tui tha^'y ma^'y anh chi. ta^m dda^`u i' ho*.p trong vie^.c ba`n tha?o 1
> va^'n dde^` , thi` chuzy^.n du`ng tu*` BA'C co' thi'ch ho*.p o*? dda^y
> kho^ng nhi?
>
> Xin lo^~i ne^'u tui ca?m nha^.n sai , va` xin ca'c BA'C tha thu*' a. ;-)
>
> Cheers
>
>
>
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Topic No. 18
Date: Thu, 27 Mar 1997 09:17:54 +0800
From: Luong.Ta@Singapore.Sun.COM (Luong Ta)
To: vnsa-l@csd.uwm.edu
Cc: Luong.Ta@Singapore.Sun.COM
Subject: [THO*] Ga(.p
Message-ID: <199703270117.JAA05323@cargo.Singapore.Sun.COM>
Cha`o ca'c anh chi. trong cho*.
Xin ta(.ng ca'c anh chi. ca'i ba'nh mi` no'ng ho^?i du*o*'i dda^y.
Tha^n me^'n,
Ga(.p
======
-Do^i ma('t sa'ng ngo*`i tre^n bie^?n dde^m
Sa'ng ca? ho^`n to^i ddang to^'i
A'nh ma('t ddo'
Xoa nhu*~ng u*u tu* kha('c khoa?i tha'ng nga`y
-De^m ho^m nay
Kho^ng cho nhu*ng to^i dda~ ta^.n hu*o*?ng
Hu*o*ng vi. ngo.t nga`o
Gio.ng no'i
A^'m ca? -de^m la.nh mua` ddo^ng
Trong lo`ng to^i
Em
Nu. cu*o*`i ddo' cho ai?
Ma` to^i dda~ ta. o*n.
.....
To^i cho*.t bie^'t co' nga`y mai.
Khuo^n ma(.t em ro~ ra`ng la` sa'ng ngo*`i
Cua? bi`nh minh ddang to*'i.
Between Vietnam and Singapore 3/97,
Luong
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Topic No. 19
Date: Thu, 27 Mar 1997 09:29:11 +0800
From: Yurong@oes.itri.org.tw
To: vnsa-l@csd.uwm.edu
Subject: Re:The Applicant
Message-ID: <48256467:0007CE1F.00@oesns4.oes.itri.org.tw>
Hey, Ian, khi na`o qua la.i Taipei la^^`n nu+~a. Se~ mo+`i ddi a(n ...de^^' me`n\.
>Ke.t no^^~i mua` na`y la` mua` crawfish co*#. Co' ba'c na`o dda~
>tu*`ng thu*? qua mo'n ddo^^.c ddo' chu*a va^^.y? Ha^^'p da^^~n
>kho^^ng thua gi` oyster dda^^u!
>
Cho ho?i ngo+' nga^^?n chu't ti'. Ca' crawfish la` ca' chi ru+'a ???\.
DDo.c nghe ha^^'p da^^~n qua', pha't the`m
Cheer
Vinh
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Topic No. 20
Date: Thu, 27 Mar 1997 12:26:26 +1000
From: Tuan V Nguyen <t.nguyen@garvan.unsw.edu.au>
To: vnsa-l@csd.uwm.edu
Subject: Re: Ti'nh ca'ch... (3)
Message-ID: <1.5.4.16.19970327122705.199f6160@gimr.garvan.unsw.edu.au>
Hello,
Phung Phuong Nam <ppn@iist.unu.edu> wrote
>cha`o ca'c ba'c,
>xin ho?i ca'c ba'c chi' khi' ngu+o+`i vie^.t ta nhu+ the^' na`o.
>trong li.ch su+? cho^'ng xa^m lu+o+.c va` du+.ng nu+o+'c,... chu'ng ta
>chi? co' nhu+~ng ngu+o+`i dde`n sa'ch ro^`i thi cu+? ra la`m quan, xong
>ro^`i tho^i, cha(?ng dde^? la.i cho con cha'u 1 chi'nh sa'ch, sa'ch
>lu+o+.c ,...
Well, and Nam, right now, we still can see a lot of
the so-called "intellectuals" in our community, who are
more interested in showing off their degrees to the common
people rather than contribute to human knowledge. You can
open any Viet newspaper and see all sorts of congratulation
of "Mr X has just graduated from university Y with
distinction" or "Ms Z has become doctor of S" blah blah
blah.
About 100 yrs ago, Phan Chu Trinh lamented on the
Vietnamese intellectuals: "We don't know lots of things,
and we have few skills, Yet the Vietnamese scholars brag
that they are best among the four classes of citizens . . .
We learn by rote a few books, Then we used our degrees to
snow the common men. The result is that we have a society
of blind people fighting one another . . . My countrymen!
Who among you have great dreams and care? Go! Go! Go to get
knowledge and skills! Then come home to teach our
compatriots on how to build the nation!"
I hope that we learn something from Mr Phan's words.
Tuan
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Topic No. 21
Date: Wed, 26 Mar 1997 17:41:02 -0800 (PST)
From: Dam Son <son@fermi.phys.washington.edu>
To: vnsa-l@csd.uwm.edu
Subject: Re: Solar power
Message-ID: <Pine.SGI.3.91.970326171144.9332J-100000@fermi.phys.washington.edu>
On Wed, 26 Mar 1997 huy.duong@ctsu.ox.ac.uk wrote:
> Tra.m pha't ddie^.n na(ng lu+o+.ng ma(.t tro+`i dda~ ddu+o+.c ti?nh BDd
> xa^y du+.ng ta.i ba'n dda?o ba~i Xe^'p, thuo^.c phu+o+`ng Quang Trung - TP
> Quy Nhon. To^?ng co^ng sua^'t cu?a tra.m la` 1.200W cung ca^'p nguo^`n
> ^^^^^
> This seems too small, can you check, anh Son?
Unfortunately I don't have the original. I guest it IS 1,200 W. I
remembered I read somewhere that each WATT of solar power cost $8 of
installation cost. The price quoted below is consistent with the value of
1,200W. I wondered how big is "khu da^n cu+" which is supplied with the
electric power of 1,200W.
> ddie^.n cho khu da^n cu+ ta.i dda^y. Kinh phi' xa^y du+.ng co^ng tri`nh
> la` 120 trie^.u ddo^`ng. Vie^.t Hie^`n
So+n.
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