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VNSA-L digest 257
VNSA-L Digest 257
Topics covered in this issue include:
1) Re: Va(n Pautovski va` ca'c vi. kha'c (was re: movie ...)
by hdinh@haiti.cs.uni-potsdam.de (Dinh Thi Thanh Huong)
2) Re: 8/3 + Va(n Pautovski va` ca'c vi. kha'c (was re: movie ...)
by Phan Thi Ha Duong <phan@litp.ibp.fr>
3) Re: Phu. nu+~ Vie^.t Nam
by Minh Vu Huynh <huynm000@goofy.zdv.Uni-Mainz.de>
4) Re: Phu. Nu+~ Vie^.t Nam
by huy.duong@ctsu.ox.ac.uk
5) Re: Chu'c mu+`ng chi. em 8/3 + various
by Tran Minh Tien <tran@idefix.mpipks-dresden.mpg.de>
6) Re: Va(n Pautovski va` ca'c vi. kha'c (was re: movie ...)
by vuca@envi.env.civil.saitama-u.ac.jp (Vu Thanh Ca)
7) Re: Vietneamse movies (from my perspective)
by Minh Vu Huynh <huynm000@goofy.zdv.Uni-Mainz.de>
8) Chuye^.n ke^? la`m qua` ha.nh ngo^.
by Truong Trong Hoang <g3937464@mahidol.ac.th>
9) The Japanese
by huy.duong@ctsu.ox.ac.uk
10) [HELP] VN editor for NT 4.0
by Vu Quoc HUNG <hung@vsb.cz>
11) Re: Va(n Pautovski va` ca'c vi. kha'c (was re: movie ...)
by Tran Minh Tien <tran@idefix.mpipks-dresden.mpg.de>
12) Re: [HELP] VN editor for NT 4.0
by "Toan" <toan@usa.net>
13) Re: Movies & Vietnamese arts
by huy.duong@ctsu.ox.ac.uk
14) Re: [HELP] VN editor for NT 4.0
by "Toan" <toan@usa.net>
15) Re: Saigon Fax
by Le Minh Trung <trung@ait.ac.th>
16) Re: Va(n Pautovski va` ca'c vi. kha'c (was re: movie ...)
by Tran Minh Tien <tran@idefix.mpipks-dresden.mpg.de>
17) Books: Herman Hess
by huy.duong@ctsu.ox.ac.uk
18) Re: VNSA-L digest 256
by Phan Thi Ha Duong <phan@litp.ibp.fr>
19) Re: Phu. nu+~ Vie^.t Nam
by hdinh@haiti.cs.uni-potsdam.de (Dinh Thi Thanh Huong)
20) Phung Quan, Phung Cung, N.H. Dang
by nng@math.jussieu.fr (nguyen n. g.)
21) France & Russia
by huy.duong@ctsu.ox.ac.uk
22) re:[News] Gia?ng da.y tie^'ng Nha^.t tre^n truye^`n hi`nh VN
by "Thai Nguyen" <tinguyen@nortel.ca>
23) Nha('n giu`m ba.n
by Le Minh Trung <trung@ait.ac.th>
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Topic No. 1
Date: Tue, 11 Mar 1997 10:17:29 +0100
From: hdinh@haiti.cs.uni-potsdam.de (Dinh Thi Thanh Huong)
To: vnsa-l@csd.uwm.edu
Subject: Re: Va(n Pautovski va` ca'c vi. kha'c (was re: movie ...)
Message-ID: <199703110917.KAA17318@riems.haiti.cs.uni-potsdam.de>
"Ha`nh Tri`nh
> tho+`i tho+ a^'u" cu?a Du+o+ng Thu Hu+o+ng la` to^i ca?m tha^'y thu' vi.
> nha^'t.
Truyen nay toi cung thich.
Truyen Duong Thu Huong thi toi chi thich nhung chuyen ba viet ngay xua
(khoang nam 80 tro+? ve^` tru+o+'c)
Duong Thu Huong di thanh nie^n xung phong 1 tho+`i gian, co viet 1 ta^.p bu't ky'
no'i ve^` ca?m xu'c khi dda.(t cha^n dde^'n so^ng Be^'n Ha?i,... ra^'t hay.
Co`n nhu+~ng chuye^.n ba` vie^'t nhu+~ng na(m cuo^'i 80 to^i dd.oc kho^ng tha^'y
hay la('m. (cha(?ng ha.n nhu truye^.n "Chuye^.n ti`nh ke^? tru+o+'c lu'c ra.ng ddo^ng")
Huong
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Topic No. 2
Date: Tue, 11 Mar 97 10:53:47 +0100
From: Phan Thi Ha Duong <phan@litp.ibp.fr>
To: vnsa-l@csd.uwm.edu
Subject: Re: 8/3 + Va(n Pautovski va` ca'c vi. kha'c (was re: movie ...)
Message-ID: <199703110953.KAA11124@litp.ibp.fr>
Anh An Ha?i và ca'c anh chi. thân mê'n,
râ't ca'm o+n ca'c anh dda~ chu'c mu+`ng con ga'i nhân nga`y
8/3 và ca? ngày 9/3, thê' là thành ra bo.n em co' hai ngày lê~ !
Co' le~ vì thê' ma` mâ'y hôm nay ca'c chi. và
ca'c ba.n ga'i cuñg viê't nhiêù ho+n.
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> > > To^i vu+`a cho+.t nho+' ra, mo^.t so^' truye^.n nga('n cu?a Pautovxkii
> > > cu~ng ga^y cho to^i ca?m gia'c man ma'c\. Co' ba'c na`o thi'ch truye^.n
> > > cu?a Pautovxkii kho^ng ?
> >
> > Toi ngay xua thich nhat tap chuyen "Bong hong vang" cua Pautovski, tu ngay
> > sang day khong mang theo nen cung quen kha nhieu. Co ai co tap do khong?
> > A, toi co 1 bai tho cua Bang Viet "Nho ve Pautovski" thi phai, co ai thich
> > toi se post len.
>
> Yes, I am interested. Hu+o+ng co' post le^n cho bo.n mi`nh ddo.c vo+'i,
> xin ca?m o+n.
>
Chi. Hu+o+ng post ba`i cu?a Ba(`ng Vie^.t le^n nhe' !
Hôm nay thâ'y mo.i ngu+o+ì bàn vê` nhiêù nhà va(n Nga hay qua' .
HD cu~ng râ't thi'ch tâ.p "Bông hô`ng vàng", bây gio+` thì chi?
nho+' nhâ't truyê.n "Bông hô`ng vàng" va` truyê.n
"Mô.t chuyê'n tàu ddêm" (?) kê? vê` Andersen.
Không biê't truyê.n này co' liên quan ddê'n chuyê.n nào
co' thâ.t trong ddo+ì Andersen hay không ?
Ca'c tâ.p truyê.n nga('n cu?a Nga mà HD ddo.c thì ddê`u
thâ'y râ't hay, HD ra^'t thi'ch ca'c truyê.n cu?a Tsekhop hay Bunin.
>Chi? ngoi ddo.c te^n ca'c truyen va ten nha` van ca'c ba'c ke^? cu~ng
>dda~ tha^'y ra^'t suo+'ng ro^`i (Vi du. nghe te^n Aimatov - truye^.n
>te^n gi`, co' the^? khong pha?i cu?a ong na`y?) la.i nho+' den tro`
>ba('t chuo+'c ddu+'ng tha^t xa o+? dda^`u gio', no'i khe~ "Anh ye^u em"
>a` ma` que^n, "to^i ye^u ba.n" nhu+ng vi` nha't qua' ma` no'i qua'
>khe~, co^ ba.n cu`ng lo+'p cha(?ng nghe tha^'y gi`. Ba?n tha^n thi` tim
>dda.p loa.n xa mot ca'ch kho^ng ca^`n thie^'t, vo^ ca(n cu+' vi ha`nh
>ddo^.ng to? ti`nh lie^`u li~nh, lo+'n tru+o+'c tuo^?i. Ddu'ng la` tu+.
>mi`nh tu+io+ng tu+o+.ng ra dde^? tu+. la`m kho^? mi`nh) Nhu+ng gio+`
>cu~ng pha?i buon ra^`u thu' nha^n la tri nho+' bi ga.m mo`n nhieu qua'
>mat ro^`i. Ba'c na`o co`n nho+' ddu+o+.c ddoa.n na`o hoa.c ti`nh
>tie^'t na`o hay trong mot truyen na`o ddo' thi` xin nha'c qua de cho
>anh em nham nhap la.i nhe'.
Anh Viet Ha?i la`m nho+' dde^'n "Mo^.t chuye^.n ddu`a" cu?a Tsekhop.
HD nho+' la` cha`ng trai dda~ ru? co^ ga'i ngo^`i cu`ng xe tru+o+.t
tuye^'t tu+` tre^n nu'i lao xuo^'ng, cu+' khi na`o gio' tho^?i ma.nh
nha^'t thi` cha`ng ke^u " to^i ye^u em" , Va` co^ ga'i ma(.c du` so+.
tru+o+.t tuye^'t nhu+ the^' la('m nhu+ng va^~n muo^'n tru+o+.t dde^?
nghe lo+`i no'i ddo', chi? tie^'c la` vi` so+. va` vi` gio' ma` co^
kho^ng bie^'t ddo' la` tie^'ng gio' hay tie^'ng cha`ng trai. DDe^'n khi
co^ ga'i lie^`u li~nh tru+o+.t mo^.t mi`nh dde^? xem co' the^? nghe
tha^'y lo+`i no'i a^'y kho^ng, thi` no^~i so+. dda~ la^'n a't he^'t,
va` co^ kho^ng bie^'t mi`nh nghe tha^'y gi` trong tie^'ng gio' nu+~a .
HD ra^'t thi'ch truye^.n na`y va` nho+' nga`y tru+o+'c mu`a ddo^ng,
ddang trong buo^?i ho.c the^m, tu+ du+ng tha^`y gia'o la.i ke^? cho ca?
lo+'p nghe truye^.n na`y
Lâu rô`i không ddo.c bài tho+ nào cu?a Nga, co' anh chi. nào post lên
vài bài ddo.c cho vui cha(ng ?
Ha Duong,
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Topic No. 3
Date: Tue, 11 Mar 1997 11:07:59 +0100
From: Minh Vu Huynh <huynm000@goofy.zdv.Uni-Mainz.de>
To: vnsa-l@csd.uwm.edu
Subject: Re: Phu. nu+~ Vie^.t Nam
Message-ID: <199703111007.LAA29808@marie.zdv.Uni-Mainz.DE>
In message <97031015084699@a2.ctsu.ox.ac.uk> you write:
><<<Chuye^.n da`i ro^`i cu~ng pha?i chia tay. To^i quay ve^` Vie^.t Nam vo+'i
>bao suy tu+. Kho^ng bie^'t Te^'t na`y co' bao nhie^u ngu+o+`i thie^'u phu.
>Vie^.t Nam tre^n dda^'t Trung Hoa bo^`ng con tro^ng ve^` que^ me. ruo^.t
>ddau chi'n chie^`u?
>
> Nguye^~n Ba(`ng>>>
>Cha`o anh So+n,
>
>Tha^.t la` phu. nu+~ Vie^.t Nam `ba?y no^?i ba chi`m vo+'i nu+o+'c non'.
>Co' co+n ba?y no^?i ba chi`m thi` ma^'y chi. em cu~ng pha?i chi.u -du+.ng va`
>lo xoay so+? kho^ng ke'm bo.n mi`nh.
>
>Nghe^` ba'n hoa thi` -da^u cu~ng co', nhu+ng cu+o+'i cho^`ng Ta^y,
>cho^`ng Ta`u, va` ke^? ca? cho^`ng Vie^.t Kie^`u -de^? lo cho -do+`i
>so^'ng thi` tha^.t la` he^'t mi`nh.
>
>Huy
>
>
Hi anh Huy, anh So+n,
to^i tha^'y chuye^.n la^'y Ta^y, la^'y Ta^`u hay Vie^.t kie^`u
thi` cu~ng bi`nh thu+o+`ng chu+' co' gi` ma` pha?i ba`n nhie^`u.
Mie^~n la` kho^ng co' su+. cu+o+~ng e'p hoa(.c pha?i ba'n re?
nha^n pha^?m .
To^i tha^'y trong ba`i anh So+n post le^n ma^'y ngu+o+`i phu.
nu+~ VN co' ve? du+o+.c ha.nh phu'c, chu+' co' bi. ha`nh ha.
gi` da^u. Ta^'t nhie^n la` pha?i chi.u no^~i buo^`n xa xu+',
cu~ng nhu+ to^i va` ca'c ba.n tre^n Forum na`y tho^i .
Pha?i cha(ng bo.n ta "khe'o du+ nu+o+'c ma('t kho'c ngu+o+`i
ddo+`i nay" ?
Vu~
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Topic No. 4
Date: Tue, 11 Mar 1997 10:19:42 GMT
From: huy.duong@ctsu.ox.ac.uk
To: vnsa-l@csd.uwm.edu
Subject: Re: Phu. Nu+~ Vie^.t Nam
Message-ID: <97031110194278@a2.ctsu.ox.ac.uk>
Cha`o chi. Hie^`n,
<<<CO' bao gio*` anh suy nghi~ ta.i sao ho. la^'y cho^`ng ta^y kho^ng ?
ANh co' bao gio*` nghi~ ra(`ng ti`nh ye^u kho^ng bie^.t ch?ng to^.c
kho^ng?>>>
Co', cho ca? hai ca^u ho?i cua? chi.. Nhu+ng co' va^'n -de^` na`y
kho^ng co' nghia~ la` kho^ng co' va^'n -de^` kia.
Di~ nhie^n la` ti`nh ye^u kho^ng pha^n bie^.t chu?ng to^.c, nhu+ng tre^n su+.
tha^.t cu~ng co' nhu+~ng ngu+o+`i muo^'n cu+o+'i vo+./la^'y cho^`ng -de^? co'
mo^.t -do+`i so^'ng be^n A^u My~. Co' ai chu+a tu+`ng tha^'y -die^`u na`y
kho^ng?
Di~ nhie^n la` ti`nh ye^u kho^ng pha^n bie^.t chu?ng to^.c, nhu+ng ti`nh ye^u
la` ke^'t qua? cua? nhie^`i ye^'u to^': (1) ba?n ti'nh, (2) co+ ho^.i ga<.p
go+~, (3) tho+`i gian ga^`n nhau, (4) hoa`n ca?nh, vv. Ne^'u co' ye^'u to^' na`o
ke'm, thi' du. nhu+ (2) va` (3), thi` statistically speaking ti`nh ye^u se~
ke'm, tru+` khi no' -du+o+.c bu` -da<'p ba<`ng su+'c ma.nh cua? nhu+~ng ye^'u
to^' kha'c, va` tre^n trung bi`nh cha<'c ye^'u to^' ba?n ti'nh kho^ng pha^n
bie^.t chu?ng to^.c.
Cha`o anh La^m,
Kho^ng bie^'t la` to^i kho'c mu+o+'n cho phu. nu+~ Vie^.t Nam
hay khen ho. bie^'t xoay so+? khi -da`n o^ng Vie^.t Nam mi`nh -de^? cho
vie^.c xoay so+? -do' tro+? tha`nh ca^`n thie^'t?
Huy
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Topic No. 5
Date: Tue, 11 Mar 1997 11:21:47 +0100 (MET)
From: Tran Minh Tien <tran@idefix.mpipks-dresden.mpg.de>
To: vnsa-l@csd.uwm.edu
Subject: Re: Chu'c mu+`ng chi. em 8/3 + various
Message-ID: <9703111021.AA28062@idefix.mpipks-dresden.mpg.de>
Cha`o ba'c An Ha?i va` ca'c ba'c,
Ba'c An Ha?i lu+o+.m ddu+o+.c tin chi ddo' ma` do.a to^i va^.y ?
Ba^y gio+` mo+'i tha^'y ngu+o+`i ta no'i pha?i
Bao nhie^u chi' lo+'n trong thie^n ha.
Chu+a no^?i chu+'a dda^`y ma('t my~ nha^n
Ma` ca'c ba'c la`m gi` ma` cuo^'ng cuo^`ng va^.y ? Te^n, tuo^?i,
ma(.t mu~i to^i co`n chu+a bie^'t\. Ca'i so^' to^i cha('c so^' con
re^.p ro^`i
Chu+?a bie^'t te^n na`ng bie^'t tuo^?i na`ng
Ma` sa^`u trong da. dda~ mang mang
Lo`ng anh nhu+ nu+o+'c ho^` thu dda^'y
Mong ddu+o+.c Ha(`ng Nga chie^'u bo'ng va`ng
Coi bo^. choa?ng nhau vo+'i ma^'y ba'c, su+'t dda^`u me? tra'n ma`
va^~n chu+a bie^'t ta.i ai ma^'t\.
Ba'c Ho^`ng La^m o+i, kho?i lo ddi\. DDi.nh ly' la` ca'i ma` con
ngu+o+`i nghi~ ra thi` con ngu+o+`i cu~ng thay the^' no' ddu+o+.c\.
Cheers, Tien.
PS: Cho+.t nho+' ma^'y ca^u tho+ sau, che'p ta(.ng ca'c ba'c
Pha?i dda^y mu`a nho+' thu+o+ng nhau
Chim dda^`u ngo.n gio' hoa dda^`u ca`nh mu+a
Bie^'t ye^u thi` kho^? co' thu+`a
Hi`nh dung mo^.t thoa'ng tu+o+ng tu+ chi'n chie^`u
Xa nhau gio' i't la.nh nhie^`u
Lu+?a khuya ta`n cha^.m chuo^ng chie^`u ddo^? nhanh
..............................
DDe^m ve^` hu+o+ng nga't be^n hoa
Ti?nh ra thi` la.i va^~n la` chie^m bao\.
Tra^`n Huye^`n Tra^n
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Topic No. 6
Date: Tue, 11 Mar 97 19:20:19 JST
From: vuca@envi.env.civil.saitama-u.ac.jp (Vu Thanh Ca)
To: vnsa-l@csd.uwm.edu
Subject: Re: Va(n Pautovski va` ca'c vi. kha'c (was re: movie ...)
Message-ID: <9703111020.AA07214@envi.env.civil.saitama-u.ac.jp>
Ca'i na`y thi` mi`nh ra^'t ddo^`ng y' vo+'i Hu+o+ng. Mi`nh ra^'t kho^ng thi'ch
nhu+~ng truye^.n la`m Du+o+ng Thu Hu+o+ng no^?i tie^'ng " be^n kia bo+`
a?o vo.ng". "thie^n ddu+o+`ng mu`".
Hu+o+ng co`n nho+' truye^.n nga('n "Mu`a thu la.i ve^`" kho^ng. Ba` DTH vie^'t
truye^.n na`y khoa?ng 1982. DDa^y la` Truye^.n mi`nh thi'ch nha^'t.
Ca.
At 3:22 AM 97.3.11 -0600, Dinh Thi Thanh Huong wrote:
>"Ha`nh Tri`nh
>> tho+`i tho+ a^'u" cu?a Du+o+ng Thu Hu+o+ng la` to^i ca?m tha^'y thu' vi.
>> nha^'t.
>
>Truyen nay toi cung thich.
>Truyen Duong Thu Huong thi toi chi thich nhung chuyen ba viet ngay xua
>(khoang nam 80 tro+? ve^` tru+o+'c)
>Duong Thu Huong di thanh nie^n xung phong 1 tho+`i gian, co viet 1 ta^.p bu't
>ky'
>no'i ve^` ca?m xu'c khi dda.(t cha^n dde^'n so^ng Be^'n Ha?i,... ra^'t hay.
>Co`n nhu+~ng chuye^.n ba` vie^'t nhu+~ng na(m cuo^'i 80 to^i dd.oc kho^ng
>tha^'y
>hay la('m. (cha(?ng ha.n nhu truye^.n "Chuye^.n ti`nh ke^? tru+o+'c lu'c
>ra.ng ddo^ng")
>
>Huong
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Topic No. 7
Date: Tue, 11 Mar 1997 11:26:47 +0100
From: Minh Vu Huynh <huynm000@goofy.zdv.Uni-Mainz.de>
To: vnsa-l@csd.uwm.edu
Subject: Re: Vietneamse movies (from my perspective)
Message-ID: <199703111026.LAA00869@marie.zdv.Uni-Mainz.DE>
In message <199703101612.RAA17184@riems.haiti.cs.uni-potsdam.de> you write:
>>
>> To^i vu+`a cho+.t nho+' ra, mo^.t so^' truye^.n nga('n cu?a Pautovxkii
>> cu~ng ga^y cho to^i ca?m gia'c man ma'c\. Co' ba'c na`o thi'ch truye^.n
>> cu?a Pautovxkii kho^ng ?
>>
>
>Toi ngay xua thich nhat tap chuyen "Bong hong vang" cua Pautovski, tu ngay
>sang day khong mang theo nen cung quen kha nhieu. Co ai co tap do khong?
>A, toi co 1 bai tho cua Bang Viet "Nho ve Pautovski" thi phai, co ai thich
>toi se post len.
>
>Huong
>
Hi Huong ,
tho+`i ho.c pho^? tho^ng ai cu~ng thi'ch Pautovski vi` ti'nh
la~ng ma.n . Hi`nh nhu+ Bang Viet than tho "Pautovski da~ che^'t"
thi pha?i. Hu+o+ng post ba`i do' le^n di .
Dank im voraus,
Vu~
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Topic No. 8
Date: Tue, 11 Mar 1997 17:32:52 +0700 (GMT+0700)
From: Truong Trong Hoang <g3937464@mahidol.ac.th>
To: vnsa-l@csd.uwm.edu
Subject: Chuye^.n ke^? la`m qua` ha.nh ngo^.
Message-ID: <Pine.OSF.3.95.970311172829.4352E-100000@saturn.mahidol.ac.th>
Ki'nh cha`o ta^'t ca? ca'c ba'c trai, ba'c ga'i cu?a VNSA,
O+? Tha'i Lan ho+n 8 tha'ng ro^`i tui mo+'i -du+o+.c ha^n ha.nh bie^'t
ca'i club na`y thie^.t qua? la` qua' tie^'c, qua' tie^'c . Ra^'t may nho+`
ba'c Vu~ (Hong Lam Vu) gio+'i thie^.u ne^n nay mo+'i co' di.p ha.nh ngo^.
cu`ng ca'c ba'c . Theo le^. ma mo+'i nha^.p ho^.i thi` pha?i -da~i ca'c ma
cu~ mo^.t cha^`u, nhu+ng xe't vi` a^m du+o+ng ca'ch tro+?, u?a kho^ng
pha?i, -da.i du+o+ng ca'ch tro+? ne^n co' le~ thay va`o -do' tui se~ ke^?
mo^.t ca^u chuye^.n la`m qua` . :)
Chuye^.n ra(`ng:
. . . Nga`y xu+?a nga`y xu+a co' anh ho.c tro` nghe`o hay chu+~ nhu+ng co'
ti'nh ngo^ng . Mo^.t ho^m quan tri huye^.n va` phu nha^n (ba?o -da?m tre?
-de.p, lo^.ng la^~y ! NK) ngo^`i kie^.u -di da.o tre^n -du+o+`ng ca'i quan .
Da^n chu'ng ha'o hu+'c -di xem trong -do' co' anh ho.c tro` nghe`o -da~ ke^? .
Tu+'c ca?nh sinh ti`nh (kho^ng pha?i sinh . . . chuye^.n, NK), anh sa'ng ta'c
va` -do.c lo+'n mo^.t ba`i tho+:
Chie^`u chie^`u ngo.n gio' -do^ng
Cu`ng ba` lo+'n -di rong
Phong tu+ nhu+ vo.ng nguye^.t
Tha^'y the`m !
Nga`i tri huye^.n nghe tha^'y no^?i gia^.n -du`ng -du`ng (co' le? vu+`a ghen,
vu+`a que^ ! NK) ne^n go.i sai nha ba('t lie^`n anh ho.c tro` qua^'t cho ma^'y
chu.c he`o bie^'t ma(.t . Ke^? cu~ng nguo^i gia^.n sau khi -da~ tru+`ng tri.
ca'i to^.i ho^~n xu+o+.c, o^ng ra -die^`u kie^.n ne^'u la`m -du+o+.c mo^.t
ba`i tho+ hay thi` tha kho^ng thi` pha?i tie^'p tu.c chi.u to^.i . Du` -dau
-do+'n vi` hi`nh pha.t (cha('c ba^`m da^.p du+~ la('m ! NK), anh va^~n sang
sa?ng u+'ng kha^?u mo^.t ba`i tho+:
La`m tho+ mu+o+`i ba?y chu+~
Bi. -da'nh bo^'n mu+o+i he`o
Ne^'u la`m ha`ng va.n chu+~
-Di't teo !
Kho^ng co`n gi` co' the^? ta? he^'t co+n gia^.n cu?a nga`i tri huye^.n, o^ng
ta la^.p tu+'c ra le^.nh go^ co^? anh ta ve^` huye^.n -du+o+`ng . (Tho^i ro^`i
ta`n mo^.t -do+`i trai ! NK)
Tre^n -du+o+`ng gia?i ve^` huye^.n, co' ngu+o+`i chu' cu?a anh ta la`m ruo^.ng
ga^`n -do' cha.y -de^'n ga(.p ma(.t . Tru+o+'c ca?nh pha^n ly anh ta buo^`n
lo`ng va` tu+` -do' sa'ng ta'c mo^.t ba`i tho+:
Vi` tho+ pha?i bo? la`ng
Ga(.p chu' o+? be^n -da`ng
Hai be^n cu`ng u+'a le^.
Ba ha`ng !
(U+'a le^. chi? co' ba ha`ng vi` chu' cu?a anh ta bi. cho^.t mo^.t ma('t ! NK)
(Nho+' ve^` Vo~ Vie^.t Anh, ngu+o+`i ba.n cu`ng lo+'p -da~ ke^? cho tui nghe
chuye^.n na`y ca'ch -da^y 17 na(m, gio+` -da^y kho^ng bie^'t lu+u la.c
phu+o+ng na`o !)
ooOoo
Xin lo^~i ca'c ba'c chuye^.n na`y kho^ng -du+o+.c vui nhu+ng vi` ca?m tha^'y
no' co' ve? ho+.p vo+'i ca'i ca^u la.c bo^. "ho.c tro` . . . gia`" cu?a
chu'ng ta ne^n tui cho.n ke^? o+? -da^y la`m qua` ha.nh ngo^. . He.n ga(.p
la.i ta^'t ca? ca'c ba'c . :)
Chu'c mo.i ngu+o+`i kho?e vui.
Tru+o+ng Tro.ng Hoa`ng
------------------------------
Topic No. 9
Date: Tue, 11 Mar 1997 10:37:34 GMT
From: huy.duong@ctsu.ox.ac.uk
To: vnsa-l@csd.uwm.edu
Subject: The Japanese
Message-ID: <97031110373478@a2.ctsu.ox.ac.uk>
Cha`o ba'c A'i Vie^.t,
>> I will learn Japanese only after Japan officially apologizes the massive
>> hunger deaths they caused in 1945 for no ideological motivations.
Philosophically:
Is causing massive deaths for ideological motivations any different/better?
And perhaps they did have an ideology: serve the Japanese king by militarism.
Besides, the Chinese, the French, the Americans all have caused massive
deaths in Vietnam, and the British blocked Vietnamese independence in 1945.
Last and not least, the North and the South caused massive deaths to each other.
Pragmatically:
Vietnam needs to be well integrated in the region to discourage Chinese
opportunism.
Huy
------------------------------
Topic No. 10
Date: Tue, 11 Mar 1997 11:15:54 +0100 (MET)
From: Vu Quoc HUNG <hung@vsb.cz>
To: vnsa-l@csd.uwm.edu
Cc: toan@usa.net
Subject: [HELP] VN editor for NT 4.0
Message-ID: <Pine.ULT.3.91.970311104417.12883A-100000@decsys.vsb.cz>
Hi ca'c ba'c va` ca'c chi,
Da.o nay toi co' va`i vie.c pha?i viet va` ddo.c tieng Vie.t, xong ma^'y
ca'i editor nhu+ cu?a ho.i chuyen gia vn k0 du`ng ddu+o+c trong NT 4.0,
va^.y muon ho?i xem co' ai co' ca'i editor na`o du`ng dduoc trong nt 4.0
thi` len tieng cho ba` con nho+`. Ve va^'n dde copyright :-((( co' le~
ca'c ba'c cu+ e-mail rieng cho toi. Va? la.i tren vnsa-l mo+i co' khoa?ng
215 members nen cha(c van dde na`y k0 nghiem tro.ng la(m. :-)))))
Hai, toi co' va`i file ms word .doc files tieng Viet, muon ddo.c va` in
no', nhu+ng k0 co' may cai fo^n VNI-Helve va` VNI-* va^.y ba'c na`o gi'up
dduoc thi` ca`ng tot. Toi biet cha(c la` may ba'c admins ra`nh chuye.n
na`y la(m.
Ca'i URL cu?a ba'c Toan (toan@usa.net) http://www.kreative.net/toan/sofware
k0 to^`n ta.i, dde^` nghi. ba'c dde^? la^u the^m 1 chu't.
Hi vo.ng ca'c ba'c gi'up.
, ,
("\''/").___..--''"`-._
`o_ o ) `-. ( ).`-.__.`)
(_Y_.)' ._ ) `._ `. ``-..-' Me`o tra(ng hay me`o dden
_..`--'_..-_/ /--'_.' .' mie^~n thi.t ngon la` ddu+o+.c
(il),-'' (li),' ((!.-'
Hung.
+---------------------------+----------------------------------------+
"Bill Gate's daughter will be the best product from MS".
------------------------------
Topic No. 11
Date: Tue, 11 Mar 1997 12:09:11 +0100 (MET)
From: Tran Minh Tien <tran@idefix.mpipks-dresden.mpg.de>
To: vnsa-l@csd.uwm.edu
Subject: Re: Va(n Pautovski va` ca'c vi. kha'c (was re: movie ...)
Message-ID: <9703111109.AA29348@idefix.mpipks-dresden.mpg.de>
Cha`o ca'c ba'c,
Te' ra kho^ng pha?i to^i co^ ddo^.c ye^u Va(n ho.c Nga\. Tre^n
VHNT co' ddo^.c 2 ngu+o+`i duy nha^'t la` ha^m mo^. Va(n ho.c
Nga va` Xo^ vie^'t\. To^i dda~ ca?m tha^'y mi`nh co^ ddo+n
trong tie^'ng qua. qua`ng qua.c cu?a mu`a ddo^ng gia' la.nh\.
Ca'c ba'c chu+a ddi Nga, ne^n ddi du li.ch dde^? xem\. Mu`a thu
nu+o+'c Nga tuye^.t vo+`i la('m. To^i dda~ o+? Y' va` DDu+'c, nhu+ng
chu+a tha^'y o+? dda^u co' mu`a thu dde.p nhu+ o+? nu+o+'c Nga\.
Mo^~i chie^'c la' la` ca? mo^.t co^ng tri`nh tuye^.t vo+`i cu?a
thie^n nhie^n\. Mu`a ha. nu+o+'c Nga cu~ng dde.p kinh khu?ng.
Hoa siren cu+' ti'm nga't ca? tro+`i chie^`u\. Mu`a ddo^ng thi`
tuye^'t tra('ng tra`n mo.i ne?o\. Mu`a xua^n, nhu+~ng ca`nh ta'o
tro^? nhu+~ng bo^ng hoa tra('ng muo^'t la^'p la'nh nhu+~ng gio.t
su+o+ng\. Ngu+o+`i Nga co' ta^m ho^`n ra^'t dda(.c tru+ng,
"ta^m ho^`n Nga", nhu+ng co' le~ pha?i o+? la^u mo+'i tha^'y\.
Thie^n nhie^n va` con ngu+o+`i nu+o+'c Nga nhu+ va^.y, de^~
sa?n sinh ra thie^n ta`i la('m. Chi? co' ddie^`u hi`nh nhu+
ta.i "ta^m ho^`n Nga" ma` cha? bao gio+` nu+o+'c Nga gia`u ca?\.
To^i kho^ng thi'ch "The'p dda~ to^i the^' dda^'y". Ta'c pha^?m
kho^ng co' ti'nh nghe^. thua^.t cao\. Truye^.n nga('n cu?a Gorky
to^i cu~ng thi'ch\. To^i nho+' o^ng co' truye^.n cu~ng na na'
nhu+ Carmen cu?a Merime, nhu+ng phong ca'ch vie^'t kha'c ha(?n\.
Co`n truye^.n ve^` Dante xe' tra'i tim la` "Ba` la~o Isanki".
Truye^.n nga('n cu?a Sekhov cu~ng tuye^.t vo+`i\. "Mo^.t chuye^.n
ddu`a nho nho?" ma` ca'c ba'c nha('c ddo.c ra^'t la~ng ma.ng\.
Ve^` L. Tolstoi thi` qua? thu+.c kho^ng ho+.p vo+'i to^i\. To^i
co' ddo.c "Chie^'n tranh va` ho`a bi`nh", "Anna Keterina", "Phu.c sinh"
nhu+ng cha? bao gio+` ddo.c he^'t ca?, chi? ddo.c 1 va`i cho^~
ro^`i bo?\. Nhu+ng to^i la.i ddo.c he^'t ca'c chuye^.n ngu. ngo^n
cu?a o^ng va` "Puratino". Khi sang Nga to^i co' ddo.c the^m "DDo.c
quanh na(m" cu?a o^ng, nhu+ng dda^y chu? ye^'u la` trie^'t.
Qua? to^i co' nghe ve^` chuye^.n ngu+o+`i ta to^' Solokhov dda.o
va(n trong cuo^'n "So^ng DDo^ng cha?y ve^` dda^u". Nhu+ng to^i nho+'
tre^n to+` "Literatura" ngu+o+`i ta dda~ dda^.p la.i cuo^'n sa'ch
na`y va` ga^`n dda^y ngu+o+`i ta ti`m tha^'y ba?n tha?o go^'c "So^ng
DDo^ng e^m dde^`m" cu?a Solokhov\. Chi? co' ddie^`u la. la` Solokhov
im la(.ng, kho^ng he^` ddu+a ba?n tha?o go^'c cu?a o^ng cho mo.i ngu+o+`i\.
Sau na`y co`n co' Bondarep vo+'i bo^. ba "Be^'n bo+`", "Lu+.a cho.n"
va` ???? cu~ng kha' hay va` coi nhu+ la` ke^'t thu'c luo^n Va(n ho.c
Xo^ vie^'t\.
Va(n ho.c Pha'p cu~ng vi~ dda.i\. Tuy va^.y to^i cu~ng chu+a bao gio+`
ddo.c he^'t "Nhu+~ng ngu+o+`i kho^'n kho^?". To^i chi? ddo.c tro.n ve.n
"Nha` tho+` DDu+'c ba` Pari", "93". Truye^.n nga('n cu?a Monpatxang (sp ?),
Merime cu~ng hay la('m. Truye^.n "Ba` Bovari" cu?a ai to^i que^n ma^'t.
Nha` to^i co' ma^'y cuo^'n cu?a Xecvantet (sp ?) nhu+ng to^i cu~ng chi?
lu+o+'t qua\. Banzac thi` kho^ng pha?i la` ngu+o+`i to^i ha^m mo^., khi
na`o cha? co`n gi` ddo.c thi` to^i va'c Banzac ra coi\. Zola co' truye^.n
gi` ddo' ma` to^i que^n ma^'t\.
Va(n ho.c My~ kho^ng pha?i kho^ng co' ta'c pha^?m hay\. To^i ra^'t thi'ch
"Cuo^'n theo chie^`u gio'", "Chu`m nho no^?i gia^.n". To^i nghi~ co' ddo.c
nhu+~ng ta'c pha^?m na`y mo+'i hie^?u ro~ li.ch su+? nu+o+'c My~ ho+n,
ma` co' le~ nhie^`u ngu+o+`i Vie^.t khi nhi`n su+. pho^`n vinh cu?a nu+o+'c
My~ dda~ kho^ng dde^? y' to+'i\.
Cheers, Tie^'n.
------------------------------
Topic No. 12
Date: Tue, 11 Mar 1997 06:27:20 -0500
From: "Toan" <toan@usa.net>
To: "Vu Quoc HUNG" <hung@vsb.cz>, <vnsa-l@csd.uwm.edu>
Cc: <hung@vsb.cz>
Subject: Re: [HELP] VN editor for NT 4.0
Message-ID: <199703111112.GAA20882@ns.kreative.net>
Xin lo^~i ba'c Hung (Hu+ng hay Hu`ng va^.y?) va`ca'c ba'c,
Cu~ng ta^.t tui dda'nh ma'y do?m.
Kho^ng pha? nha` kho tui kho^ng to^`n ta.i ma` la` ta.i chu+~ software
thie^'u chu+~ <T> nhu+ ba'c tha^'y.
Tui vo^'n dda'nh ma'y do+~ la('m ne^n sai hoa`i ha`.
ddu'ng la`:
http://www.kreative.net/toan/software
Tui se~ dde^? ma^'y chu+~ VNI le^n nha` kho tui cho ba'c la^'y. Co`n muo^'n
editor thi` hi`nh nhu+ kho^ng co' editor. chi? co' ba`n chuye^?n/dda'nh
chu+~ (keyboard converter) cha.y ddu+o+.c trong NT tho^i. Ba'c xem bo^.
cu?a TriChlor. theo tui nghe thi` cha.y trong NT ddu+o+.c nhu+ng chu+a
thu+?.
URL cu?a TriChlor la`:
http://www.trichlor.org/
Ba'c cho tui 5 phu't tui lo^i ma^'y chu+~ VNI ra cho ba'c.
Ba'c ghe' la.i kho tui ma` la^'y.
Toa`n
----------
> From: Vu Quoc HUNG <hung@vsb.cz>
> To: vnsa-l@csd.uwm.edu
> Cc: toan@usa.net
> Subject: [HELP] VN editor for NT 4.0
> Date: Tuesday, 11 March 1997 5:15 AM
>
> Hi ca'c ba'c va` ca'c chi,
>
> Da.o nay toi co' va`i vie.c pha?i viet va` ddo.c tieng Vie.t, xong ma^'y
> ca'i editor nhu+ cu?a ho.i chuyen gia vn k0 du`ng ddu+o+c trong NT 4.0,
> va^.y muon ho?i xem co' ai co' ca'i editor na`o du`ng dduoc trong nt 4.0
> thi` len tieng cho ba` con nho+`. Ve va^'n dde copyright :-((( co' le~
> ca'c ba'c cu+ e-mail rieng cho toi. Va? la.i tren vnsa-l mo+i co' khoa?ng
> 215 members nen cha(c van dde na`y k0 nghiem tro.ng la(m. :-)))))
>
> Hai, toi co' va`i file ms word .doc files tieng Viet, muon ddo.c va` in
> no', nhu+ng k0 co' may cai fo^n VNI-Helve va` VNI-* va^.y ba'c na`o gi'up
> dduoc thi` ca`ng tot. Toi biet cha(c la` may ba'c admins ra`nh chuye.n
> na`y la(m.
>
> Ca'i URL cu?a ba'c Toan (toan@usa.net)
http://www.kreative.net/toan/sofware
> k0 to^`n ta.i, dde^` nghi. ba'c dde^? la^u the^m 1 chu't.
>
> Hi vo.ng ca'c ba'c gi'up.
>
> , ,
> ("\''/").___..--''"`-._
> `o_ o ) `-. ( ).`-.__.`)
> (_Y_.)' ._ ) `._ `. ``-..-' Me`o tra(ng hay me`o dden
> _..`--'_..-_/ /--'_.' .' mie^~n thi.t ngon la` ddu+o+.c
> (il),-'' (li),' ((!.-'
>
>
> Hung.
> +---------------------------+----------------------------------------+
> "Bill Gate's daughter will be the best product from MS".
>
------------------------------
Topic No. 13
Date: Tue, 11 Mar 1997 11:20:50 GMT
From: huy.duong@ctsu.ox.ac.uk
To: vnsa-l@csd.uwm.edu
Subject: Re: Movies & Vietnamese arts
Message-ID: <97031111205013@a2.ctsu.ox.ac.uk>
Dear anh Hai,
I would take out any Japanese film the library or the local shops
have, and I have never been disappointed. The Japanese have a wonderful
sense of aesthetic and that is one of the major attractions to me. The actings
can be a bit too stylised, but the characters are very good. The stories can be
a bit simple, but they are strong and timeless.
Vietnam has a fantastic, if full of suffering, recent history: the collapse
of the old order, French occupation, resistance, the North-South war,
the pre-doi-moi experience, the overseas experience, the present transformation.
This makes a good back ground for Vietnamese films. We are also exposed to many
different Western cultures: French, Russian, American; not many Asian countries
have such varied influences. We also have good appreciation for literature.
We are also kind of philosophical. We have many potentials for making good
films.
Huy
------------------------------
Topic No. 14
Date: Tue, 11 Mar 1997 06:45:51 -0500
From: "Toan" <toan@usa.net>
To: <vnsa-l@csd.uwm.edu>
Cc: <hung@vsb.cz>
Subject: Re: [HELP] VN editor for NT 4.0
Message-ID: <199703111130.GAA20999@ns.kreative.net>
VNI cu~ng cho kho^ng ma^'y kie^?u chu+~ ne`:
http://www.vnisoft.com/english/download.htm
Ro^`i, ba'c vui chu+a?!
Toa`n
----------
> From: Vu Quoc HUNG <hung@vsb.cz>
> To: Multiple recipients of list <vnsa-l@csd.uwm.edu>
> Subject: [HELP] VN editor for NT 4.0
> Date: Tuesday, 11 March 1997 5:43 AM
>
> Hi ca'c ba'c va` ca'c chi,
>
> Da.o nay toi co' va`i vie.c pha?i viet va` ddo.c tieng Vie.t, xong ma^'y
> ca'i editor nhu+ cu?a ho.i chuyen gia vn k0 du`ng ddu+o+c trong NT 4.0,
> va^.y muon ho?i xem co' ai co' ca'i editor na`o du`ng dduoc trong nt 4.0
> thi` len tieng cho ba` con nho+`. Ve va^'n dde copyright :-((( co' le~
> ca'c ba'c cu+ e-mail rieng cho toi. Va? la.i tren vnsa-l mo+i co' khoa?ng
> 215 members nen cha(c van dde na`y k0 nghiem tro.ng la(m. :-)))))
>
> Hai, toi co' va`i file ms word .doc files tieng Viet, muon ddo.c va` in
> no', nhu+ng k0 co' may cai fo^n VNI-Helve va` VNI-* va^.y ba'c na`o gi'up
> dduoc thi` ca`ng tot. Toi biet cha(c la` may ba'c admins ra`nh chuye.n
> na`y la(m.
>
> Ca'i URL cu?a ba'c Toan (toan@usa.net)
http://www.kreative.net/toan/sofware
> k0 to^`n ta.i, dde^` nghi. ba'c dde^? la^u the^m 1 chu't.
>
> Hi vo.ng ca'c ba'c gi'up.
>
> , ,
> ("\''/").___..--''"`-._
> `o_ o ) `-. ( ).`-.__.`)
> (_Y_.)' ._ ) `._ `. ``-..-' Me`o tra(ng hay me`o dden
> _..`--'_..-_/ /--'_.' .' mie^~n thi.t ngon la` ddu+o+.c
> (il),-'' (li),' ((!.-'
>
>
> Hung.
> +---------------------------+----------------------------------------+
> "Bill Gate's daughter will be the best product from MS".
>
------------------------------
Topic No. 15
Date: Tue, 11 Mar 1997 18:45:52 +0700
From: Le Minh Trung <trung@ait.ac.th>
To: vnsa-l@csd.uwm.edu
Subject: Re: Saigon Fax
Message-ID: <332545F0.252C@ait.ac.th>
Quoc-Lan Nguyen wrote:
> From: Pham Manh Hung <sun@augusta.inf.elte.hu>
> Subject: e-mail to Vietnam
> ----
> CHEAP FAX TO VIETNAM
> * * If you have a fax modem or a fax machine, you can fax
> to this number 84 - 8 - 829 - 6466 (Saigon Central Post
> Office), and they will deliver the fax to your family with
> VND 5,000 charge, usually within two hours.
Chao` cac' bac',
Theo huo*ng' da^n~ tre^n, to^i thu*? fax ve^`, la^n` nao` cung~ nghe
die^n thoai
reng va` co' nguo*i` tra? lo*i`, nhu*ng fax cuo*ng quye^t' kho^ng di
..:( Kho^ng
hie^u? co' bac' nao` da~ thu*? chu*a, va` co' thanh` co^ng kho^ng,
thi` chi?
bao? cho toi vo*i'? .. (May fax cho^~ to^i kho^ng no^i' vo*i' die^n
thoai, to^i
nghe giong 1 co^ Vnam ngot ngao` hoi? ma` minh` lai kho^ng tra?
lo*i` duo*c, tu*c'
che^t' di ma^t' ...)
Ngaoi` ra co' bac' nao` bie^t' so^' Fax cua? Saigon Fax kho^ng? Dich
vu cung~ tuo*ng
tu*, tie^c' la` to^i kho^ng bie^t' so^' ...
Xin lo^i~ vi` lam` phie^n` cac' bac'.
QLa^n
Hi La^n,
Saigon Fax: 8298540, 8298546
(Tre^n to+` fax nho+' ghi ro~ te^n ngu+o+`i nha^.n, so^' ddie^.n
thoa.i)
Saigon Tel: 8224301, 8299368, 8293460
Hope that it will help you.
--
Le Minh Trung
Asian Institute of Technology, STAR Program
P.O. Box 4 KlongLuang, Pathumthani 12120, Thailand
Internet: http://www.rsl.ait.ac.th/Trung/
Tel. (662) 524 5585 Fax. (662) 524 6147
------------------------------
Topic No. 16
Date: Tue, 11 Mar 1997 12:44:03 +0100 (MET)
From: Tran Minh Tien <tran@idefix.mpipks-dresden.mpg.de>
To: vnsa-l@csd.uwm.edu
Subject: Re: Va(n Pautovski va` ca'c vi. kha'c (was re: movie ...)
Message-ID: <9703111144.AA30204@idefix.mpipks-dresden.mpg.de>
>
> Va(n ho.c Pha'p cu~ng vi~ dda.i\. Tuy va^.y to^i cu~ng chu+a bao gio+`
> ddo.c he^'t "Nhu+~ng ngu+o+`i kho^'n kho^?". To^i chi? ddo.c tro.n ve.n
> "Nha` tho+` DDu+'c ba` Pari", "93". Truye^.n nga('n cu?a Monpatxang (sp ?),
> Merime cu~ng hay la('m. Truye^.n "Ba` Bovari" cu?a ai to^i que^n ma^'t.
> Nha` to^i co' ma^'y cuo^'n cu?a Xecvantet (sp ?) nhu+ng to^i cu~ng chi?
~~~~~~~~~
Sorry, vie^'t lo^.n, Xtandan chu+' kho^ng pha?i Xecvantec.
Tien
------------------------------
Topic No. 17
Date: Tue, 11 Mar 1997 11:47:02 GMT
From: huy.duong@ctsu.ox.ac.uk
To: vnsa-l@csd.uwm.edu
Subject: Books: Herman Hess
Message-ID: <97031111470263@a2.ctsu.ox.ac.uk>
Cha`o ca'c ba'c,
O+? Vie^.t Nam ngu+o+`i ta co' -do.c sa'ch cua? Herman Hesse kho^ng?
-Do.c tie^'ng Anh kho^ng cho to^i -du+o+.c ca'i thu' -do.c sa'ch
nhu+ -do.c tie^'ng Vie^.t, chi? tru+` sa'ch cua? o^ng na`y, eg, Demian,
Stephenwolf, Narzisse (sp?) and Goldmund, Siddharta. Nghe no'i o^ng na`y la`
tha^`n tu+o+.ng cua? the^' he^. hippy (che^'t chu+a, tui ho^?ng co'
hippy -da^u nhe), kho^ng bie^'t the^' he^. tre? Vie^.t Nam nghi~ gi` ve^`
o^~ng.
Huy
------------------------------
Topic No. 18
Date: Tue, 11 Mar 97 12:47:17 +0100
From: Phan Thi Ha Duong <phan@litp.ibp.fr>
To: vnsa-l@csd.uwm.edu
Subject: Re: VNSA-L digest 256
Message-ID: <199703111147.MAA13257@litp.ibp.fr>
>> ma` phan nu+?a la truyen Nga, phan nua la truyen Vietnam (Tu "De me`n
>> phieu luu ky", ... den "Ma^~n va` to^i", "Dau chan nguoi linh"... )
>DDang no'i chuye^.n Ta^y sao ba'c la.i xo? chuye^.n Ta va`o la`m gi`?
>Ba'c ddo.c To^ Hoa`i co' ddo.c "DDa?o Hoang" cu?a tay na`y vie^'t kho^ng?
>"DDa?o Hoang" la` chuye^.n da`i du+.a tre^n truye^`n thuye^'t du+a ha^'u
>cu?a An Tie^m. An Tie^m la^'y na`ng Hoa dde? ra con Ga'i va` tha(`ng cu
>gi` to^i que^n ma^'t te^n. Truye^.n na`y ddo.c hay la('m, ma` to^i nga.c
>nhie^n tha^'y ba^y gio+` kho^ng co' ba'n. Ho^`i co`n be', trong ca'c
>truye^.n phi^u lu+u cu?a VN thi` quye^?n "DDa?o Hoang" va` "Ha`nh Tri`nh
>tho+`i tho+ a^'u" cu?a Du+o+ng Thu Hu+o+ng la` to^i ca?m tha^'y thu' vi.
>nha^'t.
HD cu~ng thi'ch truye^.n "DDa?o Hoang" la('m, nho+' ma~i ho^m a^'y
vu+`a ddo.c xong truye^.n thi` buo^?i tru+a ti`nh co+` me. mua du+a
ha^'u ve^` a(n. DDo.c tu+` ho^`i be', ne^n sau na`y HD nho+' co' mo^~i
mo^.t ca^u : " Mie^'ng a(n ngon la` mie^'ng a(n go+.i nho+' ky? nie^.m
". Sang Pha'p xa nha` ma^'y na(m, la.i ca`ng tha^'y tha^'m thi'a ho+n.
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Topic No. 19
Date: Tue, 11 Mar 1997 12:47:48 +0100
From: hdinh@haiti.cs.uni-potsdam.de (Dinh Thi Thanh Huong)
To: vnsa-l@csd.uwm.edu
Subject: Re: Phu. nu+~ Vie^.t Nam
Message-ID: <199703111147.MAA17508@riems.haiti.cs.uni-potsdam.de>
Hi all!
To^i tha^'y la^'y cho^`ng dde^? ti`m 1 cuo^.c so^'ng no ddu? ho+n
kho^ng co' gi` dda'ng tra'ch ca?. Sinh ra o+? xu+' nghe`o, la.i dda`n ba`
con ga'i, ma^'y ai 1 tay xa^y ddu+o+.c co+ ddo^` nhu+ co^ Hie^`n trong
chuye^.n tie^`n. Ca'ch thay ddo^?i cuo^.c so^'ng de^~ nha^'t la` la^'y
cho^`ng.
Chi? buo^`n cho xu+' so+? nghe`o ne^n nhie^`u ngu+o+`i phu. nu+~ pha?i ra ddi
kie^'m so^'ng.
Trong truye^.n Ky~ nghe^. la^'y Tau` to^i nghi~ tac gia? cu~ng positive qua'.
Theo to^i cha('n cha('n pha?i co' tru+o+`ng ho+.p bi. ngu+o+.c dda~i. Ho+n
nu+~a co' phai?i ai cu~ng la^'y ddu+o+.c o^ng Ta`u gia`u dda^u.
Huong
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Topic No. 20
Date: Tue, 11 Mar 1997 13:44:44 +0100
From: nng@math.jussieu.fr (nguyen n. g.)
To: vnsa-l@csd.uwm.edu
Subject: Phung Quan, Phung Cung, N.H. Dang
Message-ID: <v01540a00af4adee00a6e@[134.157.98.200]>
On Thu, 6 Mar 1997 Dam Son wrote :
>On Wed, 5 Mar 1997, Vu Thanh Ca wrote:
>> nha` va(n la` do o^ng Nguye^~n Hu+~u DDang chi. Theo nhu+ ba`i
>> vie^'t tre^n VHNT thi` o^ng DDang ra^'t nghe`o. So^' tho'c 4-5 ta. ma`
>> o^ng DDang tie^'t kie^.m ddu+o+.c chi? gia' khoa?ng 50USD. Trong
>> khi ddo' nha` va(n dda~ xua^'t ba?n ddu+o+.c nhie^`u truye^.n, tie^`n
>> DDang la^'y dda^u ra tie^`n dde^? giu'p nha` va(n xua^'t ba?n sa'ch.
>> Co' le~ o^ng Ddang nghe`o ho+n hha` va(n nhie^`u. Ho^`i 1992,
>> thuo^'c "Ba so^'", "DullHil" o+? Vie^.t nam va^~n la` ra^'t quy', va^.y
>> ma` ba.n be` nha` va(n toa`n hu't thuo^'c ddo', chu+'ng to? nha` va(n
>> cu~ng ta.m so^'ng ddu+o+.c, tuy kho^ng du+ gia?.
>Ca'm o+n anh Ca dda~ post ba`i ra^'t hay ve^` Phu`ng Qua'n.
>Anh Giao vie^'t la` ta^.p tho+ Phu`ng Cung (chu+' kho^ng pha?i Phu`ng
>Qua'n) la` do o^ng Ddang bo? tie^`n ra xua^'t ba?n.
>To^i co' va`i ca^u ho?i mong ca'c ba'c gia?i dda'p giu'p:
>Phu`ng Cung va` Phu`ng Qua'n co' ho. ha`ng the^' na`o vo+'i nhau kho^ng?
>Phu`ng Qua'n hi`nh nhu+ co`n co' ho. vo+'i ca? To^' Hu+~u ?
>So+n.
Cam on anh So+n da minhchinh ho toi. Toi vua di vang, hom nay (10.3) moi
ve lai Paris va doc vnsa-digest ca mot tuan... nen cung hoi boithuc.
Viec ong Nguyen Huu Dang zung quy tietkiem de in tap tho Phung Cung la
zo chinh nha tho Phung Quan viet trong bai tua tap tho Phung Cung. Bai nay,
Phung Quan da gui cho bao Dien Dan (Paris) dang. Nhung khi taptho nay duoc
xuat ban cuoi nam 1995 thi khong thay dang bai nay.
Vi toi viet thu nay o truong, khong co bo Dien Dan trong phong, nen xin loi
khong dua xuatxu chinhxac duoc.
Ve cau hoi cua anh Son : Phung Quan goi To Huu la ca^.u ruot. Trong mot so bao
Thanh Nien cach day vai nam (chung 2 nam truoc khi PQ tutran), PQ co viet
mot bai ke chuyen ngay Tet den tham "cau To Huu".
__________________
Nguyen Ngoc Giao
UFR de Mathematiques
Universite Denis Diderot,
2 place Jussieu
75251 PARIS CEDEX 05
Tel + Fax : 01 43 68 91 44
>From abroad : 33 1 43 68 91 44
mailto:nng@math.jussieu.fr
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Topic No. 21
Date: Tue, 11 Mar 1997 13:45:51 GMT
From: huy.duong@ctsu.ox.ac.uk
To: vnsa-l@csd.uwm.edu
Subject: France & Russia
Message-ID: <97031113455190@a2.ctsu.ox.ac.uk>
Cha`o ba'c Viet Hai,
<<<Cho to+'i gio+`,
toi van cho rang da^n to.c Nga va` Phap la` hai dan to^.c vi~ dda.i
nha^'t ve^` va(n ho.c >>>
Da^n Anh cu~ng co' nhie^`u nha` va<n no^?i tie^'ng.
Huy
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Topic No. 22
Date: 11 Mar 1997 09:02 EST
From: "Thai Nguyen" <tinguyen@nortel.ca>
To: vnsa-l@csd.uwm.edu
Subject: re:[News] Gia?ng da.y tie^'ng Nha^.t tre^n truye^`n hi`nh VN
Message-ID: <199703111431.IAA20326@batch1.csd.uwm.edu>
>I will learn Japanese only after Japan officially apologizes the massive
>hunger deaths they caused in 1945 for no ideological motivations.
Anh Vie^.t a`, the^' thi` My~ va` Ta`u thi` sao? Cha(?ng nhe~ vi` My~ tha?
Agent Orange dde^'n nay bie^'t bao tre? em vu`ng Qua?ng Tri. co`n chi.u ha^.u
qua? hay tha`nh Tha(ng Long bi. ddo^'t bie^'t bao la^`n bo+?i qua^n ca'c trie^`u
dda.i nha` Ha'n ma` mi`nh se~ ta^?y chay tie^'ng Anh, tie^'ng Hoa. Du` chi'nh
phu? Nha^.t co' xin lo^~i ddi nu+~a cu~ng chi? vi` ba('t buo^.c chu+' ho. kho^ng
thu+.c su+. nghi~ va^.y. Mi`nh nghi~ dde^? pho`ng ho+` ca'c tai hoa. mi`nh
ca`ng pha?i hoa` nha^.p vo+'i ca'c nu+o+'c kha'c, chu+' kho^ng la`m sao ddoa'n
ddu+o+.c ca'c nu+o+'c co+` ke^' tie^'p. Va? la.i du` ho. kho^ng xin lo^~i ma`
mi`nh la.i tha lo^~i va` la^.t qua trang mo+'i thi` mi`nh la.i co' the^? tu+.
ha`o, co' ddu'ng kho^ng?
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Topic No. 23
Date: Tue, 11 Mar 1997 21:44:49 +0700
From: Le Minh Trung <trung@ait.ac.th>
To: vnsa-l@csd.uwm.edu, vnforum@saigon.com
Subject: Nha('n giu`m ba.n
Message-ID: <33256FE1.6F95@ait.ac.th>
Hi folks,
The person having the following "attributes":
- His name is Du~ng. He has family name but "ngu+o+`i nha('n" doesn't
know.
- Ngu+o+`i Hue^' (hoa(.c mie^`n trung)
- Tru+o+'c la`m o+? Trung ta^m va^.t ly' ly' thuye^'t, Ha` no^.i
- Co' tha^n vo+'i anh Ha` Vi`nh Ta^n
- Co' the^? go.i ddie^.n thoa.i sang Moscow
Lie^n la.c vo+'i anh Ha` Vi`nh Ta^n, hie^.n ddang o+? Moscow, tel. 976
5983.
Sorry for this announcement.
Le Minh Trung
Asian Institute of Technology, STAR Program
P.O. Box 4 KlongLuang, Pathumthani 12120, Thailand
Internet: http://www.rsl.ait.ac.th/Trung/
Tel. (662) 524 5585 Fax. (662) 524 6147
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